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EMC4444

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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2013 9:59:42 AM

My 2008 Honda Pilot needs to use only 10% ethanol gas. 15% causes engine problems. I have to take a road trip and cannot find a website that will show me where to purchase 10% blend along the route. Can anyone reccomend a website for me?
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EMC4444
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 5:49:19 PM

Thank you to everyone who responded to my inquiry. I learned quite a bit. The trip went well. I found that in Florida, only 10% ethanol or less is the law. Thanks again.
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stickyvalves
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2013 5:25:43 PM

I doubt you will have a difficulty if you read and observe the pump labels.
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2013 12:21:52 PM

Like krzysiek_ck, I suspect EMC4444's 15% blend is 15% gasoline (E85), which would explain the CEL.
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Banjoe
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2013 8:54:42 AM

The Check Engine Light situation is interesting.

What Error Code comes up when you check it out (what's causing the light to come on)?
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OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2013 8:36:34 AM

Read the pumps carefully -- you shouldn't have any problems on your trip
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2013 6:28:39 PM

EMC4444 wrote: "When I use the 15% blend, my check engine light comes on."

Does the pump clearly state E15? Is it possible it says E85? It sounds to me like you are using E85 (85% Ethanol and 15% gasoline).

[Edited by: krzysiek_ck at 4/20/2013 6:30:13 PM EST]
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stickyvalves
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2013 5:49:11 PM

I know of several stations in Iowa and Nebraska selling E15. All stations have gasohol available.
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borsht
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2013 4:41:23 PM

Teh etahnol producers have succeded in theri quest ot get EPA to endosre acceptance of E15.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2011/06/e15-e10-ethanol-alcohol-pollution-engine-damage-labels-gas-station-pump-epa/1

"In California, data show that even with E10 we're seeing an increase in emissions," Hwang says. "The alcohol reacts with soft materials, hoses, seals, and makes those more permeable, and allows evaporation of fuel," he says, acknowledging that "it's not a issue with newer vehicles."

California has many older cars, without ethanol-resistant parts, on the road because cars don't rust there, and because the state is a hotbed of auto hobbyists who maintain aging models.

Higher blends of alcohol -- ethanol in the U.S., nearly all of it made from corn -- cut the energy content of the fuel. Ethanol has only about two-thirds as much energy as gasoline does, so fuel economy and performance can suffer as the proportion of ethanol increases.

Growth Energy and 54 ethanol producers petitioned the EPA in 2009 to get approval for E15.

The government has settled on a label for gas stations selling a blend of gasoline and ethanol called E15, which contains more ethanol -- grain alcohol -- than the E10 blend that's replaced pure gasoline at most stations.

The Environmental Protection Agency previously approved E15 -- 85% gasoline and 15% ethanol -- for use in vehicles back to 2001 models. The approved label is part of the EPA's final rule spelling out about how E15 can be sold and what standards it must meet.

E15 isn't available yet. EPA says sellers have to first register their blends with the agency to be sure they meet a number of standards. Probably nothing at stations until late this year, ethanol interests say.
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EMC4444
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2013 5:39:21 AM

Thanks for your responses. When I use the 15% blend, my check engine light comes on. My mechanic said there is water or moisture in the gas tank and I need to use a 10% blend. This has happened 2 or 3 times. He said don't use Shell or Kroger gas. I use QT gas now (10% blend) and have not had a problem.
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Apr 15, 2013 8:13:35 AM

EMC4444 wrote: "15% causes engine problems."

How exactly will E15 cause engine problems in 2008 Honda Pilot?
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giwan
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Message Posted: Apr 15, 2013 7:27:12 AM

Luckily E15 is not that prevalent and will get phased out
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2013 12:43:34 PM

I wouldn't worry too much as Kansas is the only state selling E15 and they only have 5 pumps.
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tropicalmn
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2013 11:25:28 AM

Every gas station in the USA that sells gas has a pump that is no more than a 10% blend of ethanol.You may find a gas station that sells gas without any ethanol which you can use. There is not a gas station anywhere in the USA that only sells E15.

[Edited by: tropicalmn at 4/13/2013 11:30:09 AM EST]
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