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Hannie59

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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2013 1:27:19 PM

There's a report from the Energy Information Agency on the use of replacement and alternative fuels in the U.S., and the growth is impressive. CNG grew 5 percent from 2010 to 2011, which is the latest available data. E85 jumped 52 percent. Electricity used in EVs and plug-ins grew 57 percent. Bio-diesel grew 240 percent in the same time period. However, liquid propane autogas fell by about 1 percent. Overall, natural gas is the most common alternative fuel used in the U.S., followed by propane autogas, and E85.



[Edited by: Hannie59 at 4/10/2013 1:28:49 PM EST]
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brerrabbitTX
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 10:55:02 PM

Shell and Truckstops of America (TA) signed contracts last Monday for a series of of LNG fueling statios on major trucking routes in parts of the US. This could lead to much higher usage of natural gas in long haul trucking.
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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2013 9:29:37 AM

brerrabbitTX wrote: "kryski, or whatever your board name is. I freely admit I don't know how all the block/hide features work on this discussion board, but if you are going to comment on my posts then the less than cowardly and intellectually honest thing to do is at least allow me to see your posts commenting on mine. I have not put you on ignore though Lord knows you have given me reason to. Therefore I can only assume you have done something so I cannot see your posts.

If you feel that you don't want your posts challenged and you feel threatened by my responses then keep on doing what you are doing. I will report your actions."

The personal attacks like this do not fly well with admins. You got blocked by them. If you have problem with it, whine to them. I can only add that you have been asked to stop personal attacks on multiple occasions yet you continue to do so. STAY ON THE SUBJECT.
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Hannie59
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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2013 8:37:57 AM

I am seeing more CNG available at commercial stations, however I haven't seen any cars. I am glad to see it available, even though there are not millions af consumer vehicles that use it, like there is with ethanol.
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tdioiler
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2013 8:08:13 PM

I would like to see the revised 2012 numbers for NG. I would think the rise would be greater than 5%. I've seen many service vehicles now driving around with NG inlet's.
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stickyvalves
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2013 5:29:38 PM

Use E85 if your vehicle is made for it. No problems.
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2013 12:18:37 PM

brerrabbitTX, individuals can block themselves from seeing other member's posts, but can't block a member from seeing theirs. Only the mods can, so you may have tapped the "ignore" link by accident. If you have confirmed that you have not (bottom left of the "Member Messaging Area" page, you will have to take it up with the mods.
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brerrabbitTX
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2013 12:40:11 AM

kryski, or whatever your board name is. I freely admit I don't know how all the block/hide features work on this discussion board, but if you are going to comment on my posts then the less than cowardly and intellectually honest thing to do is at least allow me to see your posts commenting on mine. I have not put you on ignore though Lord knows you have given me reason to. Therefore I can only assume you have done something so I cannot see your posts.

If you feel that you don't want your posts challenged and you feel threatened by my responses then keep on doing what you are doing. I will report your actions.
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Hannie59
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:37:36 PM

Both propane autogas and Natural gas are ahead due to their adaptaion by the trucking and heavy duty vehicular sector among other things. E-85 is the best gasoline alternative available to consumers who own personal vehicles.
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giwan
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 11:42:39 AM

E85 lower the propane autogas, think about that one. Would be nice to see actual amount not just %. ie I have one penny and found a 2nd. WOO HOO 100% increase in instant net worth.
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2013 6:44:57 PM

brerrabbitTX wrote: "So as RFA increases the ethanol amounts necessary to be blended each year, we as a nation have no choice other than to start selling E-15."

Of course the oil companies could produce more gasohol and with increased supply drop the price of gasoline. They also could sell more E85. Both choices that they are not willing to make, I wonder why.
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brerrabbitTX
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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2013 5:30:39 PM

1,000 barrels per day to put it in perspective is 5 truckloads a day or 42,000 gallons. The average station if it is doing okay will sell 120,000 gallons a month. So the amount of E-55 or greater sold in the US today amounts to about the full capacity of 10 and 1/2 stations a month. That is not much.

No comment otherwise, just the fact that the vast majority of all ethanol sold in the US today is in the form of E-10. So as RFA increases the ethanol amounts necessary to be blended each year, we as a nation have no choice other than to start selling E-15. The growth of E-55 or greater sites cannot happen fast enough to keep up with the increased ethanol usage requirements in the RFA.
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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2013 10:06:11 PM

Yet E85 Dropped in Minnesota

Additional Sales information from Minnesota's site tracking e85 sales

What is disturbing is that sales have fallen to 750,000 gallon level which was last that low in 2005!

Look at sales for "ed55" or higher.

Produced a 1,000 barrels a day... which sounds good until you look at the other numbers...

However total fuel average is 8,747,000

so..

8,747,000 - total fuel.
0,001,000 - Total Ed55.

Wish it was higher actually.. but the facts are not really much of an impact.

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