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Hannie59

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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 9:55:44 AM

EPA and DOE have the most complete and comprehensive E-15 data available, yet the big money oil wins out again....

What a crock!

Representatives from the US Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Energy should have been invited to testify at a hearing examining potential problems from EPA's allowing gasoline with a 15% ethanol blend into the US market, the ranking minority member of a US House Science, Space, and Technology subcommittee suggested.
Witnesses representing the Coordinating Research Council, American Automobile Association, and National Motorcycle Association all told the committee's Environment subcommittee that tests EPA asked DOE to conduct did not adequately address potential hazards of widespread E15 use.
"Although I agree that EPA should not base decisions on incomplete information, neither should this committee," Rep. Suzanne Bonamici (D-Ore.) said in her opening statement.
Bonamici expressed concern that the American Petroleum Institute and automakers funded research being used to refute EPA's science leading up to its decision to grant E15 waivers. "Also, because [DOE] conducted the research on which EPA based its decision, it's important to note that the majority invited neither [DOE] nor [EPA] to discuss the science and extensive testing on which EPA based its decision," she said.
Democrats were given adequate opportunity to invite an additional witness, according to the subcommittee's vice-chairman Rep. Chris Stewart (R-Utah), who ran the hearing.
Witness Mike Leister, a CRC board member and a senior fuels policy advisor at Marathon Petroleum Corp., confirmed that the research organization gets about two thirds of its funding from API and automakers, with the remainder coming from outside organizations on a project-by-project basis.


[Edited by: Hannie59 at 4/2/2013 9:58:11 AM EST]
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OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2013 12:27:36 PM

Ayup - Another fine example of rampant greed within the government ranks
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tdioiler
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Message Posted: Apr 7, 2013 10:48:40 AM

The probably wanted the hearings to be productive. So why invite those that you already know their view? Waste of time. The meeting was venting the concern of other businesses from having hardship due to corrosive materials being shoved into our fuel tanks. The use of CRC testimony was unfortunate, but why throw them under the bus? What the heck, you think for a New York minute the EPA doesn't drive their "study outcomes" as much as the CRC would ?

And to say the groups that were invited into the lions mouth are just big-oil controlled? Come on - they are protecting their market and customers. Big oil is only riding the coat tails. Again Hannie, you are playing the ethanol teams problem of conjecture of facts as truth.

And like I've said before, none of the EPA studies were ever conclusive on engine damages that the OEM would have to burden warranty cost for. Didn't the head of Harley Davidson say they accept the EPA proposals with them covering the cost? Didn't hear the EPA in agreement on that point.

And the EPA's own studies show there are other negative impacts from the use of Ethanol. Higher mortality rates due to higher output of several compounds that ethanol burning produces. Not that it's a show-stopper, but nothing in life is perfect. Until the lobby groups grasp that fact, we should not bother talking to a squawk box that repeats the same story of rosy glasses and ignoring how to solve the shortcomings because they don't exist??
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Hannie59
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 11:11:48 AM

Unfortunately giwan, the truth does not win. Not about the corn lobby, they are not part of it.

The EPA and DOE have facts and were excluded. Now what is presented at the hearing is the lobby false data.
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giwan
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 11:06:52 AM

Have the MOST complete and comprehensive data does not mean it is correct. Big money oil wins? OR Big money corn lobby wins?
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