rugby2

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Message Posted: Dec 15, 2012 11:27:07 AM
so another reason to say he was effected by campaign donations. two wrongs don't make a right. Ethanol made from corn is a bad deal for the consumer
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MertieMan

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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 5:20:29 AM
It doesn't matter now what he supports since he is totally out of the picture thanks to the deadbeats that voted Obama back in.
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13Octane

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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 11:59:41 AM
Ok, good to know.
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13Octane

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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 7:38:12 PM
Who?
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20Yoleven

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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 4:27:09 PM
Bye bye, Willard!
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gamechanger2011

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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 11:47:35 AM
Sadly Romney lost! We will never know.
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Delta258

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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 2:18:10 AM
He only support 53% of it; the remaining 47% will have to find other ways.
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crmedic

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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2012 8:08:23 AM
ok
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WE0H

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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 2:22:05 AM
I am pretty sure I watched some news that we are using 20 something percent of the field corn crop in 2012 for Ethanol. That sure leaves a lot for other products. That doesn't count the sweet corn that is used for food.
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Walter11201950

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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2012 12:27:05 PM
republicans are the past thinkers are now and the future party of america
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Sneakers55

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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:47:08 PM
On Oct 17, 2012 1:23:53 PM, tdioiler wrote:
>Now this tread had turned into a political soapbox.
All threads around here turn into a political soapbox.
>Neither candidate seems good.
Another election where we get to vote for the lesser of two evils.
>Where is FDR when you need him?
Where is Ronald Reagan when you need him?
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GM1954

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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 8:48:27 AM
"Right now we use well over 40% of the corn crop to produce enough ethanol to produce a very small fraction of the fuel this country uses. "
No. 40& of last years corn production wnt to make ethanol and animal feed in equal proportions. Each bushel of corn produced 18 pounds of ethanol and 18 pounds of animal feed. The remaining 20 pounds was converted to heat during the production process, aiding in making these two products.
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reb4

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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 9:05:27 AM
WEOH, there are over 9 million vehicles on the road in the U.S. that are designed to run e85. Yet less than 1 tenth of 1 % of the fuel sold in the U.S. is e85. Which makes up a very small % of the total ethanol sold in today's vehicles.
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Shockjock1961

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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:49:50 AM
"There is no reason the US can't run every vehicle on E100"
How about that there are not enough resources to produce enough ethanol to run every car in the country on it?
Right now we use well over 40% of the corn crop to produce enough ethanol to produce a very small fraction of the fuel this country uses.
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gwenhayes2

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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 6:58:25 AM
Oh,Mitt will change his mind again as soon as someone says it is wrong or as soon as he is elected.. If!!! He does it all the time..... I do not trust him sorry!! Im not a democrat either!!
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WE0H

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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 3:15:41 AM
Doesn't matter if Romney invests in the Ethanol industry or not. It's good to have a president that fully supports bio-fuels. There is no reason the US can't run every vehicle on E100 and not use a drop of those crooked foreign oil companies gasoline. Why support the terrorists with gas money?
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73amx

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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 12:52:54 PM
wonder how much Romney has invested?
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MertieMan

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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 10:14:30 AM
Who really cares about who backs what? They will all promise you the sun, moon and stars to get elected and then put the shaft to you once they are in office.
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tdioiler

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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2012 2:23:57 PM
Now this tread had turned into a political soapbox.
Neither candidate seems good. Where is FDR when you need him?
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tdioiler

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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2012 2:23:53 PM
Now this tread had turned into a political soapbox.
Neither candidate seems good. Where is FDR when you need him?
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GrumpyCat

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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2012 1:55:38 PM
Renewable fuel is fine but ethanol is not renewable. Ethanol consumes 80% of its energy content from other non-renewable energy resources. 80% non-renewable is not renewable.
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CORNHICK

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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 11:40:59 PM
down with Mitt Romney and down with ethanol
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Shockjock1961

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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2012 10:00:13 AM
"I'm a conservative, and you won't find me bashing Romney like yourself!"
Then why do you follow back all these liberal policies for ethanol? If you were a conservative you would want the government to keep it's nose out of YOUR business the ethanol business, and agriculture's business...
As for Romney, I wouldn't bash him if he didn't have such a liberal background when he was Governor. Plus you can't tell what the man truly stands for sine he flip flops constantly, tailoring his ideals to whatever crowd he is addressing at any moment in time...
" You have just shown your true colors!"
Your right, I've shown I'm not a mindless fool, nor am I a RINO such as yourself. I can look at a candidate and make up my mind based on his actions on what he TRULY is (in Romney's case a human etch a sketch).
Of course then GC, like I said, you are not a conservative anyway, so it doesn't surprise me you like Romney...
[Edited by: Shockjock1961 at 10/13/2012 10:05:22 AM EST]
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reb4

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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2012 11:19:47 PM
"Prices will drop when we have a better crop next year. They are already dropping a little due to better then expected yields, in some parts of the country. "
GC2011, are you saying wait till next year??? Are you a Cubs Fan?
And It appears from this report prices are not coming down but going upLink
Know a lot of people not all that pleased with Mr. Romney. And Mr. Obama is probably more pro ethanol than Mr. Romney is.
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SilverStreaker

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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2012 11:10:22 PM
Shockjock1961 says "Sorry, GC, I'm not a liberal unlike yourself".
Based on the amount of Romney bashing you do, it doesn't look like you are voting for him either. Who then do you believe is a viable third option?
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gamechanger2011

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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2012 9:14:03 PM
Shocky calls me a liberal after bashing Romney! Perfect! Who started this thread Shocky?
Shocky said... "Mr Etch a Sketch (AKA as Mitt Romney) will pander to anybody's viewpoint in order to get a vote. I'd take any claim of support he makes with a grain of salt."
I'm a conservative, and you won't find me bashing Romney like yourself! You have just shown your true colors!
[Edited by: gamechanger2011 at 10/12/2012 9:18:52 PM EST]
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Shockjock1961

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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 3:26:24 PM
Sorry, GC, I'm not a liberal unlike yourself...
[Edited by: Shockjock1961 at 10/11/2012 3:31:34 PM EST]
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gamechanger2011

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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 3:13:53 PM
So it looks like Shocky will be voting for Obama?
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Jayburt

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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 2:49:16 PM
Got to agree with Shockjock as I see the same thing when you check his past history
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Shockjock1961

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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 2:27:31 PM
Mr Etch a Sketch (AKA as Mitt Romney) will pander to anybody's viewpoint in order to get a vote. I'd take any claim of support he makes with a grain of salt.
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gamechanger2011

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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 12:10:12 PM
Prices will drop when we have a better crop next year. They are already dropping a little due to better then expected yields, in some parts of the country.
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reb4

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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 10:12:37 PM
President Obama and his GOP opponent Gov. Mitt Romney this week responded to an agriculture/rural communities issue questionnaire submitted to both campaigns by the American Farm Bureau Federation (AFBF). In the end, it’s no surprise the answers are long on philosophy and short on details.
This is from Feedandgrain... from October 2, 2012. - THe white paper can be found on the Romney web site. Here is a link to the white paper (I think) I'm not sure the link will work...THis is what the section says:
"Maintain the Renewable FuelStandard, fulfilling the federal government’s commitmentto biofuels growers and refiners and providing them the certainty they need to followthrough on their investments in promising technologies;"
May want to read the "whole" section though... in my opinion, looks to bring oil prices down as well...
[Edited by: reb4 at 10/10/2012 10:22:52 PM EST]
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CORNHICK

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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:34:46 PM
I agree I would actually buy e85 fuel again if it were $1.00 cheaper per gallon like it use to be when I first converted my car to run on it.
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WE0H

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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 6:09:39 PM
Awesome. I hope this drives E85 prices down a couple bucks a gallon. Bio-Diesel prices are also all over the place and need to be way low. The economy will take off if these Bio-Fuel prices can be forced down by whatever means to keep money in the consumers pockets.
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