goldseeker
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 2:36:50 AM
Yeah, it is too bad about the QS refinery. I can still remember when you head into St. Marys how there was several large oil tanks up on a hill painted up to look like Quaker State Oil Cans.
The sad part is a loss of jobs, and the oil is still here to refine. There are numerous oils in the area I grew up in that produce 2-5 barrels per day. One was even on my grandmothers home place, however they all have been capped off. You would think that with todays high oil prices that someone would get things going again.
Those wells are nothing like the gushers hit in Texas, but they were shallow wells that were easy and cheap to bring in. The Rathbone well was only a couple hundred feet below the surface just like the Titusville well. In fact it came in just a few days after Titusville.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2012 9:57:31 AM
Goldseeker, thanks for giving me this timely information on the oil refinery that was closed back in 1986... I think the Quaker State Oil refinery that closed back then may have pre-dated the opening of the ethanol facility that closed in North Dakota...
Closings of any facility is a hardship... but it appears the quakerstate facility likely outlived it's usefulness. It did last 75 years though since it started in 1913.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2012 2:47:44 AM
The Quaker State refinery has now been closed for several years. I have driven by it many times. There was talk of selling it, but they had a fire and then just shut it down.
Oil and gas was big in the Ohio Valley clear back to the Civil War era. Actually the
Rathbone Well is the oldest producing well in the world.
I know of another refinery near Hurst, Texas that is just setting and rusting away. I used to frequent the area a lot as my mother lived nearby. This refinery is located on Grapevine Hwy. In its heyday it was actually used as a backdrop during the TV series Dallas.
Sorry, no pictures yet.
[Edited by: goldseeker at 9/25/2012 2:50:20 AM EST]
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2012 2:44:12 AM
The Quaker State refinery has now been closed for several years. I have driven by it many times. There was talk of selling it, but they had a fire and then just shut it down.
Oil and gas was big in the Ohio Valley clear back to the Civil War era. Actually the
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2012 2:44:11 AM
double post
[Edited by: goldseeker at 9/25/2012 2:49:39 AM EST]
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Sep 23, 2012 10:14:57 AM
reb4 wrote: "Maybe some regional airline can purchase the closed ethanol plant and convert their ethanol plant ..."
Maybe they don't have to buy any ethanol plants, since there is enough closed refineries to choose from.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 11:51:37 PM
of course maybe the ethanol plant will be bought by someone in the industry... Kinda like the Trainer refinery that was purchased by Airline company...
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Delta is on track to cash in on new asset
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"Atlanta-based Delta merged with Northwest Airlines in April 2008, creating what was at the time the world’s largest commercial airline, needing 220,000 b/d of jet fuel in the US. That’s equivalent to a decent-sized US refinery.
Then, jet fuel crack spreads, the premium over the cost of crude oil, tripled and turned fuel into the airline industry’s biggest expense at more than a third of costs. Delta has projected a $300 million annual savings from the Trainer deal, based largely on being able to take advantage of that spread as a refinery owner.
Finally, Delta is a natural consumer that spends $12 billion to buy 4 billion gallons of fuel a year. “We wanted to take a little bit more control of our high- cost commodity,” Jacobson said after the presentation."
Maybe some regional airline can purchase the closed ethanol plant and convert their ethanol plant ...
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 5:07:50 PM
"Experts say the sudden price hike is due to supply shortage and not the upcoming holiday weekend. There are only a few refineries that produce the summer gas blend required in California and three are currently closed. Tesoro, Shell and ConocoPhillips, all of which are in the San Francisco area, are producing at slower rates due to routine maintenance. A fire that forced a refinery to shutter in Washington state has also affected prices in the Southland."
LA gas prices soaring due to closed refineries
"While gas prices soar to record levels, many U.S. refineries that make and sell gasoline are going broke.
Nearly 50% of the refining capacity on the East Coast has either shut down or may shut down within the next few months."
Refinery closures risk Northeast gas price spike
So much for working refineries.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 1:08:33 PM
goldseeker, I look forward to seeing the oil refinery pictures. PLease include the names and locations... and when they went into production and when the closed....
Here are one that permanently closed operations...
for mobile users, nice article when it occurred...
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2012 7:41:34 AM
"glad oil refinery wasn't down for 3 months..." I see the armchair experts are at it again. There are oil refineries that have been out of business for years. The next time I drive by one I will take a photo and post it in here.
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 8:28:00 AM
glad oil refinery wasn't down for 3 months...
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 3:13:52 AM
I looked here in El Paso and there is only 1 station sellin E85 gas... it's cheaper but 28 miles each way from my house and back eats up any saving on the gas. 750,000 people and only 1 station with ethanol.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 2:19:41 AM
That is good news.
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Message Posted: Sep 20, 2012 10:29:28 PM
Corn for food, not fuel! I'd rather be able to afford groceries.
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Message Posted: Sep 20, 2012 6:32:24 PM
Oh joy!
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