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rick_evans
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2012 8:59:10 AM

Putting aside debates about whether ethanol is good clean air policy, good alternative energy policy, bad food policy, corn belt state pandering or may be bad for your engine, have you had an engine problem that was diagnosed as being caused by 10% ethanol?

Thus far I have not.
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LeeLavergne
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 11:24:30 AM

I hear of the damages more and more
krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 1:21:38 PM

vulcan96 wrote: "yes, a marine engine"

How many ethanol related damages have you experienced with your marine engine?
vulcan96
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 12:27:14 PM

yes, a marine engine
FieroGT
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 6:32:17 AM

Ethanol is a lousy alternative fuel.
nighthawk91
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2012 12:37:17 PM

Ran it in a 91 honda motorcycle. No issues.

Currently use it in a 03 HD Road King. No issues. 40+ MPG. Depending on the RPM's I run. Same as straight gas.

twt, why is it bad for air cooled engines?

Please don't say it's because it burns hotter. We all know that ethanol contains less BTU's then straight gas and thus it gets less MPG's <rolls eyes>
terfar77
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2012 6:16:07 AM

i have not yet
bgr4bgr4
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Message Posted: Sep 16, 2012 2:53:53 PM

Ethanol sets off my BS detector big time. It is an un-necessary cost inefficient product that has been shoved down our throats by government. It makes my beef cost more as well. Anyone who believes this gives you a single advantage in your engine just does not know how to read.
goldseeker
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 4:17:38 PM

"I have had a small engine (lawn mower) problem because of ethanol already."

Just another case of falling prey to the daily anti-ethanol propaganda.

In other words you blame it on ethanol, but you really don't know that it was ethanol, do you?
MertieMan
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 10:00:28 AM

I have had a small engine (lawn mower) problem because of ethanol already.
FogCitySpotter
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 4:57:12 AM

Nothing that I'm aware of.
W707
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 2:45:05 AM

I havent seen it gor sale around here.
Waterman66
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 5:18:28 PM

twt,

I have a fuel injected motorcycle and it runs fine on ethanol. Never have heard of that issue.
Rescue71040
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 4:49:54 PM

I have an old truck with a 350 in it not a problem yet. Only thing I noticed doesn't have the prp it once had then again its old so?
twt
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 3:12:18 PM

Motorcycles are air cooled. They don't operate too well, with the fuel injected engine, with too high an ethanol content.
RJD2012
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 10:50:10 AM

Only when I used it in an old car. I had to change the fule filter a few times. No problem on newer cars I've owned.
Waterman66
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 9:48:21 AM

There has not been any diagnoised ethanol issues other than when ethanol started. That problem was mainly when it started to clean out the gunk in tanks and plugged filters.
terfar77
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 6:21:36 AM

not yet

goldseeker
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 2:47:20 AM

Works fine in my air cooled engines, and has for nearly 20 years.
olympusman2004
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 12:43:54 AM

DOnt use it
twt
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 1:55:09 PM

Not really good, for an air cooled engine. ie: Motorcycles and Volkswagens.
WEPSMAN
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2012 9:01:57 AM

No problems here.
twt
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2012 4:49:53 AM

Not yet.
PhilT08
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 7:35:18 PM

No problems here nor do I know anyone who has had Ethanol related problems with any engine.
w00tMeister
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Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 1:05:23 PM

No E1O problems here.
RedRider1OK
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 10:51:03 PM

Goldi is right and the first 10 pages of Google results where I searched for "ethanol rubber problems" are all lies and negative propaganda brought to you by Big Oil. Enough said!
goldseeker
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 3:31:06 AM

"eating rubber parts"

Actually if any rubber parts are damaged, ethanol is not at fault. It is more likely benzene, toluene, or xylene, other common components of gasoline. Ethanol actually has an excellent compatibility rating with rubber.
ProfDude
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2012 12:53:50 AM

34 years and more than a million miles of ethanol and gas mixes from E-10 to E-85 in a wide range of vehicles without one known ethanol caused engine problem.

The same is true for small engines of innumerable pieces of equipment over the same period of time.

My family owned a large construction company for 40 years and as far as I ever knew, no ethanol caused damage in any equipment or cars or trucks there either.

No ethanol damage. Nope. Not at all.

[Edited by: ProfDude at 8/31/2012 12:55:51 AM EST]
ray1218
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2012 2:43:50 PM

eating rubber parts
Skyjunky
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2012 10:33:39 AM

I have had a lot of problems in both of vehicles because of the E-10 . I now run No lead Reg with out any probs....no water in the fuel system, better gas milage and smoother running vehiucles
chemist74
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Message Posted: Aug 29, 2012 11:38:39 AM

The odds are that anyone who has actually had a problem with 10% ethanol in a "modern" car had a manufacturing defect rather than a design defect.
krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2012 2:21:25 PM

None
Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2012 12:00:46 PM

Nope.
SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2012 11:15:04 AM

I've never had an ethanol related problem on any engine. My experience:
- 2003 Honda CRV, which has run on E10 and above all it's life, including over 40% ethanol.
- 2000 Ford Windstar, bought used, ran it on E10 - E70 for about 10 years, until selling it a couple years ago, when I only needed to run 1 car. Ran fine when I sold it.
- 1940 era Briggs & Stratton lawn mower, borrowed it from my Dad for about 10 years, then gave it back when I got an electric mower. Ran it on E10 and the engine ran as fine as it did 70 years ago.
Hannie59
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2012 9:50:54 AM

No sir, not a one. And I have 120K on two newly purchased non flex fuel vehicles. Every single mile on a mixture of ethanol well above 10%. I contend that my engines are actually better because of it. Only have had to replace tires and brakes. Never an engine problem, ever.

[Edited by: Hannie59 at 8/28/2012 9:53:17 AM EST]
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