Lilly02

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Rockford
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2012 12:29:03 PM
Get rid of ethanol all together!
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SilverStreaker

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2012 9:42:43 AM
pricewar says "see this goes to show you that if there is a drought or fire, there goes the price, hitting the roof and then some." Show us proof of this dramatic price increase in ethanol.
"this is why natural gas or hydrogen would be a better choice for the consumer" Are you able to purchase and use these energy sources in your vehicle?
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krzysiek_ck

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2012 8:21:29 AM
Houckster wrote: "Essentially, the President doesn't have the money to continue his programs because the GOP controls the House."
Are you for real? How many trillions of dollars did the current president spend already?
stickyvalves wrote: "Is our country better off than it was four years ago?"
Of course it is not.
[Edited by: krzysiek_ck at 9/28/2012 8:23:23 AM EST]
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pricewar

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Ogden
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2012 12:00:18 AM
see this goes to show you that if there is a drought or fire, there goes the price, hitting the roof and then some. this is why natural gas or hydrogen would be a better choice for the consumer, because these type of gas prices would be much more stable. maybe why these tycoons are trying to slow it down, because it would be hard for them to have control.have a good day my friends
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Houckster

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 8:51:39 PM
STICKYVALVES writes: " COUNTRY FIRST! "
So our question should be:
Is our country better off than it was four years ago? ______ Maybe STICKYVALES should really call himself STICKYTHINKING.
There are really two questions: The questions should be were we better off in 2008 than we were in 2001. NO. And have we made any progress since then? The answer is YES, we are better off.
And we'd be a lot better off if the Hard Right GOP would come back to their traditional position on the political spectrum and work in good faith with the Democrats to find a bipartisan program to get us back to work.
Essentially, the President doesn't have the money to continue his programs because the GOP controls the House. What we have, in effect, is what the economy would be under Mr. Romney because he will essentially leave it to Corporate America to create the jobs. We might as well depend on the Good Tooth Fairy.
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stickyvalves

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:33:02 AM
" COUNTRY FIRST! "
So our question should be:
Is our country better off than it was four years ago?
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FogCitySpotter

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 4:48:56 AM
If true, it's yet another example of the incompetence of current white house. Doubling down on ... what? We really need comprehensive solutions, not politically motivated actions solely for reelection efforts. COUNTRY FIRST!
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goldseeker

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 3:11:10 AM
OH my, the sky is falling!
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RJD2012

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 10:48:46 AM
They should suspend the Ethanol requirements for now.
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Waterman66

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 9:49:55 AM
Find this hard to believe.
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terfar77

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 6:22:40 AM
it would be nice. but dont hold your breath
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Finland

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 3:22:37 PM
I don't like, trust, or want to have anything to do with F. Chuck Todd or B. Hussein Obama but this would be excellent in the event it happens. Not gonna hold my breath though.
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wolfman48

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Louisville
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 8:42:53 PM
Sneekers55, They can return to the refining methods they were using before to make increase the octane by about two or three points is all that is needed which is achieved in the refining process.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 6:29:52 AM
On Aug 15, 2012 7:43:31 AM, trombo31 wrote:
>This makes me sick. The White House should have done this years ago, >but now that it is for political gain guess who has jumped on the >bandwagon.
Well, if they were going to do it "years ago" it would have been done under Bush. Bush was the one who signed the law that implemented the ethanol requirement.
>Can we please get rid of this joker!
If Romney and Ryan don't stop alienating nearly every type of voter, we'll get the joker back in a landslide.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 6:23:50 AM
The only problem is the refiners have their refineries set up to produce a product designed to be mixed with ethanol and they can't switch over on a dime.
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trombo31

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Aug 15, 2012 8:43:31 AM
This makes me sick. The White House should have done this years ago, but now that it is for political gain guess who has jumped on the bandwagon. Can we please get rid of this joker!
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tattoo666TX

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Texas
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2012 11:50:13 AM
Get rid of the ethanol, and don't bring it back!!!
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CobraJ

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 9:03:19 AM
Good! DO it!!!! DO IT NOW!!!!
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stickyvalves

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 8:22:59 AM
Just the threat of relaxing the RFS will weaken the corn market. That is the purpose of having Chuck report the "considering."
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reb4

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2012 8:17:40 AM
I find it hard to believe, I read just the opposite... either way it would surely be political...
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stickyvalves

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2012 10:44:42 PM
That will be a political effort to make the corn futures market drop.
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Cummins2500

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2012 7:56:49 PM
Will not believe it until it happens.
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