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CORNHICK

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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2012 6:07:48 PM

ok so the thing is I am wondering do any of you use ethanol or do you just use regular gas or what do you use. Also what do you reccommend?
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Settjec
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 12:09:27 PM

Indeed
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Tutootin
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 10:49:48 AM

I know that it is wrong, but I refuse to spend more for premium gas to avoid the EtOh!!!!
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biza4u
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 10:27:56 AM

I'm not a fan of ethanol in anything
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 10:21:00 AM

I don't know anyone who has had a performance or maintenance issue from ethanol. E10 has been the primary automobile fuel in Minnesota for almost 2 decades.
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WestDriver
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 7:34:58 AM

I can't find pure gasoline for my small engines. So, I buy 10% ethanol gasoline and then when I get home, immediately put some stabilizer designed for neutralizing ethanol for small engines in it. Let it sit a day or so before I use it.
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btex49
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 2:45:30 AM

Just say NO to ethanol.
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rd2000
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 2:42:58 AM

just say no to E85
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MikeCapeCoral
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 2:40:51 AM

Use R90.
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mpsan
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 1:14:36 AM

BYE BYE SMALL ENGINES!
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MPSAN2
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 9:34:51 PM

Ethanol will kill your small engines!
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thuathienhue
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 9:32:25 PM

I've been using E10 in vehicles and small engines, nothing bad has happened yet and hope it doesn't.
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divebomber
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 9:00:08 PM

ONLY TRUE UNLEADED FUEL, NO ETHANOL, IN SMALL ENGINES!
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fire@53
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 7:50:04 PM

Ethanol hurts small engines.
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FieroGT
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 4:54:33 PM

Currently use E10 for both the car and small engines. Have no close source for E0.
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DrSam46545
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 4:54:30 PM

gas
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stevencr
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 4:10:16 PM

We really don't have a choice anymore. Can not find ethanol free gas.
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montpelier28
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 3:45:18 PM

have non=ethanol premium up the street but only premium. They get it from Canada.
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rubiconbill
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 11:50:31 AM

I buy regular gas that has ethanol mandated in it. I treat it with a product called ethanol shield and that really helps.
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aRBy
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2014 11:49:33 PM

I use E10 in all my small engines. I would advise against using E85 in small engines, especially two-stroke engines.

You CAN modify small engines for E85, but that will likely violate the warranty. Small engines don't use a lot of gas. Buy the regular stuff recommended in the owners manual.
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tdioiler
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2014 9:45:51 PM

What I found very interesting is the limited levels of ethanol blends in Europe. Drove through 6 countries and NON had higher than 5% ethanol added to their really expensive gas.

So why is that ? Do they know something we can't explain? Or is it in our 'best' interest to force higher E levels at drivers since the corn lobby makes such a big stink using clean fuels?

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stickyvalves
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2014 9:20:56 PM

My mower started just fine. Thanks for your concerns.
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2014 4:37:23 PM

"Kind of amazing isn't it how the majority of ethanol advocates seem to be from the corn growing states."

You find that amazing?
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Wanda127
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2014 1:54:36 PM

I buy Marathon REC fuel for my outboard motor
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2014 7:10:10 AM

E10 is wonderful for small engines.
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vaporlock13
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Message Posted: Apr 25, 2014 8:17:59 PM

Kind of amazing isn't it how the majority of ethanol advocates seem to be from the corn growing states. Like I have said many times on various forums, at least on of the auto makers should come up with an 100 percent ethanol compatible vehicle so those who love it can use it exclusively.

[Edited by: vaporlock13 at 4/25/2014 8:18:28 PM EST]
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stickyvalves
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Message Posted: Apr 25, 2014 10:04:46 AM

Going to mow my yard tomorrow. I left gasohol in the tank over the winter. I have no doubts it will start just fine.
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Apr 25, 2014 8:16:06 AM

FieroGT wrote: "E10 is tough on small engines."

How many small engines have you lost due to Ethanol? I can report zero issues related to Ethanol even in small engines I own.
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FieroGT
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2014 9:50:18 PM

E10 is tough on small engines.
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dassfg
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2013 8:13:53 AM

Mid-grade with RXP added. Seems to work.
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aRBy
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 10:08:05 PM

You should be able to run E10 in any small engine. The last small engine I bought was a 2-stroke weed-whacker. The instruction manual said it would tolerate E15.

I think most small engine manufacturers are resigned to making product that will run on E15.

All that being said, I would be highly reluctant to run a small engine (Lawn mower, chainsaw, portable generator etc.) on ethanol-to-gasoline content in excess of 15%.

Whatever the potential for alcohol automotive fuels, we're always going to need some petroleum.
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beachguy46
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 8:53:53 PM

ethanol is the death knell for older cars. It screws up the entire fuel system.
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taxed2death
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:51:53 PM

i would run ethanol all the time in my truck if available. its like every thing else, run an additive once and a wile to keep fuel systems clean.
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 9:54:47 AM

Small engines run the same with E10.
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after10
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 2:11:16 AM

Small engines run better without ethanol mix
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 9:27:56 PM

easydriver11 wrote: "bad mouth the oil companies. Last year there were three oil companies paying the HIGHEST income taxes while GE paid close to none."

Double check your numbers and back them up by a link. Here is an example for you. Yes, numbers from 2011 but you get a point.

"Moreover, contrary to claims by Big Oil lobbyists, the big three publicly owned U.S. oil companies—ExxonMobil, Chevron, and ConocoPhillips—paid relatively low federal effective tax rates in 2011. Reuters reports that their tax payments were “a far cry from the 35 percent top corporate tax rate.” Their effective federal tax rates in 2011 were: ExxonMobil, 13 percent; Chevron, 19 percent; and ConocoPhillips, 18 percent."

Speed Trap: Big Oil Profits from High Gasoline Prices
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easydriver11
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 6:12:13 AM

bad mouth the oil companies. Last year there were three oil companies paying the HIGHEST income taxes while GE paid close to none. Obama buddies got the tax credits at the expense of the consumer.
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easydriver11
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 6:09:29 AM

screwed up my lawn mower
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 5:20:48 AM

I run E10 in my lawn tractor, string trimmer, blower, chain saw and power washer without any problem. I have done this for nearly 20 years.
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WhiskeyBurner
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 4:14:50 AM

"hey gvan thanks for the advice I will probably stick to the cheapest gas with the 10% ethanol in it. Oil companies are so greedy we must do everything we can to take $$$$ out of their pockets."

That right there is a good reason to use E85 in a flex fuel vehicle as well as use E10 in most cars and try out E15 once if become available in your area!
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CORNHICK
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 1:10:18 AM

hey gvan thanks for the advice I will probably stick to the cheapest gas with the 10% ethanol in it. Oil companies are so greedy we must do everything we can to take $$$$ out of their pockets.
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gvan
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 4:57:12 PM

Maybe E10 does ruin engines. I only used E10 in my lawn mower and snow blower for about thirty years. Maybe if I had used E10 for fifty years the engines may have stopped working.
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33gort33
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 8:34:35 AM

never in small engines
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TriniB
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2013 8:28:18 PM

No.
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VeeDubbin
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 9:27:30 PM

I avoid using ethanol gas in my small engines. My Stihl chainsaw specifically recommends against using fuel with ethanol in it. I also keep it out of my Echo line trimmer.
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wvmtngeek
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 7:02:00 PM

I run E10 in my lawn tractor, string trimmer, blower, chain saw and power washer without any problem.
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darwinfinch
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2013 12:34:44 PM

My small engine guy says basically any small engine made after 1980 can run E10 with no trouble, and that the ethanol worries are really blown out of proportion.
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WhiskeyBurner
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2013 2:32:29 AM

"In the last one week, the price of ethanoil has gone up by 15% "

Yet here it's still at least a buck cheaper than 87 octane E10.

"Small engine manufacturers have had 40 years to make sure their equipment and all replacement parts are 100% compatible with ethanol.
If you are having problem, then your equipment is garbage, or your mechanic is using counterfeit replacement parts and feeding you a line that his shoddy workmanship is actually the fault of ethanol.
Hundreds of thousands of small engines operate on E10 every day in Manitoba, our small engine repair shops are no busier than in any other jurisdiction with, or without E10 as the standard fuel."

This!
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2013 1:54:56 AM

"yep ethanol is garbage"

Small engine manufacturers have had 40 years to make sure their equipment and all replacement parts are 100% compatible with ethanol.
If you are having problem, then your equipment is garbage, or your mechanic is using counterfeit replacement parts and feeding you a line that his shoddy workmanship is actually the fault of ethanol.
Hundreds of thousands of small engines operate on E10 every day in Manitoba, our small engine repair shops are no busier than in any other jurisdiction with, or without E10 as the standard fuel.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 7/20/2013 1:56:46 AM EST]
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CORNHICK
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2013 12:30:24 AM

yep ethanol is garbage
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Drlamba
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2013 9:43:43 AM

In the last one week, the price of ethanoil has gone up by 15%
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CORNHICK
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2013 12:16:09 AM

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