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SilverStreaker

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2011 4:58:52 PM

The latest is that Oil from Yellowstone River pipeline spill likely in North Dakota now
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 1:55:29 PM

Natural gas well explosion forces 400 families from homes in eastern Ohio
"The well, which had been fracked to provide natural gas, is in Bloomingdale"

"In Ohio alone in the past year, residents near fracked wells and injection wells — the wells where fracking waste is dumped — have experienced earthquakes and have been evacuated because of fires. Chemicals have spilled into streams and rivers, in some cases killing fish for miles.

Tuesday’s incident was the third in three days tied to fracking operations in eastern Ohio. On Sunday, a worker at a fracking site in Guernsey County was burned in a fire. On Monday, a pipeline carrying natural-gas condensate ruptured in Monroe County, igniting several acres of woods."
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 11:20:12 PM

Grumpycat: Fall plowing, a practice that has almost died out, is at the root of the run-off issue. Farmers here in NW Ohio have given up on fall plowing and are even planting weeds(good ground cover,deep roots,great source of organic matter) then tilling them up in the Spring and planting corn or soybeans.
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 12:00:37 PM

"natural oil seeps contribute the highest amount of oil to the marine environment, accounting for 46 per cent of the annual load to the world's oceans."
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 10:57:59 AM

Two million barrels of oil on ocean floor after BP spill

"Around two million barrels of oil from the BP spill off the US Gulf Coast in 2010 are believed to have settled on the ocean floor, according to a study Monday."

"The oil was found to have spread as far as 3,200 square kilometers (1,235 square miles) from the site, and may have gone even further, the report said."
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 3:46:10 PM

i blame the cartel.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 2:59:05 AM

Actually there was 91.5 million corn acres planted this year which is a reduction of nearly 4 million acres over 2013 and 6 million less than 2012 and if you go back to and a huge reduction from the record of 113 million that was planted clear back in 1932.
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 2:37:19 AM

"For example the recent microcystin problem in Ohio due to phosphorous runoff due to heavy fertilization of corn fields due to government mandated demand for ethanol."

This is another fabricated story brought to you by big oil sympathizers.

It is a well known fact that planted corn acres has went down for the last 2 years and is considerably less than it was from over 50 years ago.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 10:45:13 AM

Media doesn't report ethanol's damage to the environment. For example the recent microcystin problem in Ohio due to phosphorous runoff due to heavy fertilization of corn fields due to government mandated demand for ethanol.
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 9:33:06 AM

Oil and gas companies use 40-plus toxic chemicals near California homes, schools and hospitals

"Gas, oil companies dumped 45 million pounds of chemicals in Los Angeles just last year"
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 12:20:38 AM

Considering the cleanup effort in the Gulf. I believe we are doomed. Those idiots use a toxic substance to break up the oil. It is called coexit. It is far worse than the oil.. The oil will break up on its own in time.

Remember the Exxon Valdez? They used coexit on that spill too. Guess what? Most of the people that worked that cleanup are now dead from cancer!
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2014 8:49:02 PM

Nigeria's agony dwarfs the Gulf oil spill. The US and Europe ignore it

"more oil is spilled from the delta's network of terminals, pipes, pumping stations and oil platforms every year than has been lost in the Gulf of Mexico, the site of a major ecological catastrophe caused by oil that has poured from a leak triggered by the explosion that wrecked BP's Deepwater Horizon"

"If this Gulf accident had happened in Nigeria, neither the government nor the company would have paid much attention," said the writer Ben Ikari, a member of the Ogoni people. "This kind of spill happens all the time in the delta."

"The oil companies just ignore it. The lawmakers do not care and people must live with pollution daily. The situation is now worse than it was 30 years ago. Nothing is changing. When I see the efforts that are being made in the US I feel a great sense of sadness at the double standards. What they do in the US or in Europe is very different."
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2014 5:28:06 PM

I wanted to add Dr. Martins Bio, but the opton to edit my previous post expired.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/lcfs/workgroups/martin.pdf
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borsht
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2014 5:12:04 PM

http://tinyurl.com/psb7bwo

There’s a Corn Ethanol “Spill” Every Day


Demand for corn to make ethanol – driven by government policies – encourages more corn production and thus contributes to this problem of fertilizer “spilling” into our waters. We can do better……..
Jeremy Martin, senior scientist, Clean Vehicles
December 8, 2011
Last week an OpEd in the New York Times called attention to the agricultural activities damaging the Ogallala aquifer, both depleting the aquifer by using water faster than it is replaced, and polluting it with fertilizer and pesticides.
The Ogallala provides water to over a quarter of irrigated farmland in the United States, and sprawls 174,000 square miles across eight states from South Dakota to Texas. That water helps farmers grow a lot of corn, and 40 percent of that corn is used to fuel our cars. It takes about 8 ounces of ethanol to move an average car one mile, but using irrigated corn from Nebraska to produce that small glass of ethanol can take 30 gallons of water. Looks to me like that’s a car with a serious drinking problem.

o Corn farming is a leading cause of water pollution
Pollution from corn farming is a leading cause of water quality problems across the country, but particularly in the corn-growing Midwest. High fertilizer application rates means nitrogen and phosphorous are running off into nearby waters. In the areas where it’s grown, particularly in the Upper Mississippi River watershed, it pollutes drinking water and produces toxic lake algae that attacks U.S. Senators during their vacations.
Downstream, the fertilizer-turned-pollutant feeds more algal blooms that contribute to the ever- expanding Gulf of Mexico “dead zone” (a large aquatic area deprived of oxygen). That spells big problems for the Gulf economy and some nationally important fisheries, which the National Marine Fisheries Service says produced 1.3 billion pounds of fish and shellfish valued at $661 million in 2008 (which was, admittedly before That Oil Spill, which didn’t help either).

o Demand for corn to make ethanol – driven by government policies – encourages more corn production and thus contributes to this problem of fertilizer “spilling” into our waters. We can do better, and my paper touches on some ways to do so: cover crops, better crop rotation and returning perennial grasses to the agricultural landscape, which would also offer a viable biomass source for clean, cellulosic biofuels. As I argued here last summer, if we want to protect water quality while also reducing U.S. oil dependence, biofuel production must move beyond corn to more diverse and environmentally friendly crops and waste materials.
Posted in: Biofuel, Energy

o About the author: Jeremy Martin is a scientist with expertise in the technology, lifecycle accounting, and water use of biofuels. He is working on policies to help commercialize the next generation of clean biofuels (made from waste and biomass rather than food) that can cut U.S. oil dependence and curb global warming.
He holds a Ph.D. in chemistry with a minor in chemical engineering. See Jeremy's full bio.


[Edited by: borsht at 8/24/2014 5:17:39 PM EST]
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goldseeker
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2014 2:55:27 AM

No doubt; and cancer and other diseases will continue to rise.
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Aug 23, 2014 6:27:17 PM

From Shocky's favorite source:

Report finds illegal use of diesel in fracking fluid

"At least 33 different companies reported using diesel fuel in fracking at least 351 wells, according to EIP. The use of diesel is a serious concern. In 2004, an EPA report looked at the chemicals added to fracking fluids used in coalbed methane extraction and found that “Diesel fuel is the additive of greatest concern” because it contains dangerous compounds including benzene, toluene, ethylene, and xylene (referred to as “BTEX” compounds)."
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2014 12:38:03 PM

Stop Fracking Our Oceans, Californians Say
"There's been almost no oversight of this dangerous practice by federal and state officials, who can't even say exactly where or how often fracking has been used off our coast."

"The poll also found 2 in 3 California voters are concerned about offshore fracking's effects on endangered marine wildlife like blue whales, who congregate in the Santa Barbara Channel.

That concern is well founded. The federal government, astonishingly, has given oil companies to dump more than 9 billion gallons of wastewater, including fracking fluid, a year into the ocean off California's coast."
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 10:28:32 AM

To Clean Up Oil Spills, Magnetize The Oil First

Works in the lab, but let's see if it works on a real spill.
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2014 10:11:22 AM

Pennsylvania Sues Oil Companies for Groundwater Pollution

“MTBE-related spills over the past 20 years have cost Pennsylvania hundreds of millions of dollars,”
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PummpinEthyl
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Message Posted: May 15, 2014 8:31:21 PM

Amish fuel spills occur every day, they never make the news and they never get cleaned up.
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2014 10:54:23 PM

Carry a bucket some will spill out. Clean it up and keep going.
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2014 10:32:38 AM

"A 65-mile stretch of the Mississippi River remained closed at New Orleans on Monday following a weekend collision that resulted in crude oil spilling from a barge."

Mississippi River closed at New Orleans after barge spills oil
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2014 10:16:13 AM

Federal study says oil sands toxins are leaching into groundwater, Athabasca River
"Leakage from oil sands tailings ponds, which now cover 176 square kilometres, has long been an issue. Industry has acknowledged that seepage can occur, and previous studies using models have estimated it at 6.5-million litres a day from a single pond."
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 9:52:23 AM

[L=http://www.dailyfreeman.com/general-news/20140217/text deleted trains have spilled almost 3 million gallons of crude since 2008, review finds[/L]

"The derailments released almost 3 million gallons of oil, nearly twice as much as the largest pipeline spill in the U.S. since at least 1986."
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nighthawk91
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2014 8:12:51 PM

12000g/70m= .03 gallons per foot. People dump their oil change oil more than that spill. :) I say light a match to clean it up.
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2014 12:31:34 PM

Train sprays crude oil for nearly 70 miles

A 70 mile spill!
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2014 12:27:24 PM

Tell us something new, who is the one that is suppose to report this. They jumped all over BP and so it should have been. Whether big or small we are ruining the land. and environment . Are we no longer responsible for our action if we are a big company or a little one.? W hen do we yell stop to our congressmen and woman to put a stop to these companies that have ventured into these areas of making big bucks from their oil schemes.
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2014 10:13:00 AM

Dolphins Suffering From Lung Disease Due to Gulf Oil Spill, Study Says
"Study Finds Strong Connection Between Deepwater Horizon Spill and Dolphin Deaths"
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2013 2:46:33 PM

North Dakota recorded 300 oil spills in two years without notifying the public
"North Dakota regulators, like in many other oil-producing states, are not obliged to tell the public about oil spills under state law. But in a state that's producing a million barrels a day and saw nearly 2,500 miles of new pipelines last year, many believe the risk of spills will increase, posing a bigger threat to farmland and water."

"For weeks, no one knew about a Tesoro Corporation pipeline that broke 29 September in a remote area near Tioga. Officials say no water was contaminated or wildlife hurt, but the spill was one of the largest in North Dakota's history, estimated at 20,600 barrels. Oil oozed over an area the size of seven football fields."
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smugutu1234
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2013 7:20:16 AM

Nothing new.
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2013 5:12:15 PM

Hmmm super interesting
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darwinfinch
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2013 9:55:09 AM

They are working on a 3 year plan to clean up the spill and I doubt his ranch will ever be the same.

Now picture a hundred corn trucks tipping over on this guy's ranch. Big mess, but it'd be gone in 2 weeks, and the wildlife would LOVE it.

[Edited by: darwinfinch at 10/16/2013 9:55:25 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2013 9:42:15 AM

There will always be another spill...
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2013 9:12:08 AM

"When Steve Jensen saw crude oil bubbling up from the ground on his North Dakota farm, he knew immediately he wasn't having a Jed Clampett moment.

Unlike the classic "Beverly Hillbillies" character who struck it rich with oil, Jensen figured the "black gold" was coming from the pipeline that runs under his 1,800-acre wheat farm, carrying oil from the Bakken formation to a rail facility 45 miles north. Instead of getting rich, Jensen, 56, has been left with a huge mess -- his acreage in Tioga fouled by the largest oil spill on U.S. soil in history."

North Dakota farmer makes crude discovery: largest oil spill on US soil
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2013 10:00:28 AM

Study: Fracking Waste Poses Severe Threat To Wildlife
"According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, fracking water “killed virtually all aquatic wildlife” at the site of one spill."
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2013 11:02:26 AM

"If people are upset about oil spills, then maybe they should ride a bike."
Yes, or use ethanol.

Oil spill would 'overwhelm' resources, B.C. minister warned
"The B.C. government has said Enbridge's proposed Northern Gateway pipeline — which would deliver Alberta oilsands products to a tanker port in Kitimat, B.C., for export to Asian markets — and Kinder Morgan's proposed expansion of its existing TransMountain pipeline into the Port of Metro Vancouver, could increase tanker traffic by more than 1,000 trips annually off the Pacific coast."
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 4:06:34 AM

Considering the distance between home and work, driving would probably be preferred by my employer........ethanol does allow for that!
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 12:53:21 AM

If people are upset about oil spills, then maybe they should ride a bike.
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 4:46:54 PM

Ethanol spills from derailed train near port of Tampa in Florida
No reports of pollution, but people were inconvenienced. "That's 10 hours of work that we miss today. We don't go in and we don't get paid."
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2013 2:13:24 PM

Polluted Chaudiere River posing problems for cities north of Lac-Megantic
"Cities as far as 180 km north of Lac-Megantic, QC, have had their main source of drinking water, the Chaudiere River, polluted by crude oil, forcing them to tap into alternative water sources.

It is unclear how many litres of crude spilled into the Chaudiere River after a train carrying hundreds of tons of oil derailed and exploded in the town of Lac-Megantic"
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Message Posted: Jul 1, 2013 9:17:47 AM

BP is polluting Lake Michigan

"BP, one of the world's biggest companies, dumps nearly 20 times more toxic mercury into Lake Michigan than federal regulations permit."
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: May 8, 2013 9:02:56 AM

giwan claims "Still not as much oil as average everyday people spill on their own."
Really? Let's see you prove that one.

Meanwhile, Study: Gulf oil spill is sickening fish vital to seafood industry "Oil buried in sediments in the shallow waters of the Gulf is triggering genetic reactions in the gills and livers of local populations of killifish, a ubiquitous prey for marine species vital to the region's economy, according to a study published this week in the review Environmental Science & Technology. Researchers linked those genetic changes to cardiovascular problems, reproductive failures and weakened and listless offspring.

“The animals are simply not hatching,” said Fernando Galvez, an environmental toxicologist from Louisiana State University, who led the study. “The ones that go on to hatch are smaller and have very little vigor.”"
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 1:32:12 PM

Still not as much oil as average everyday people spill on their own.
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 8:35:35 AM

Just what North Dakota needs - more oil.
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 10:12:11 AM

Never enough money for them, prices at pump to high, safety in the toilet it seems on their functions.
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 8:21:29 AM

"While questions over the severity of ExxonMobil’s March 29 oil spill in Mayflower, Arkansas still remain, the same pipeline has now ruptured, this time to the north, in Missouri."

Fresh ExxonMobil pipeline spill hits Missouri
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2013 8:24:36 PM

It' the same logic some people stick to in support of their agenda. So instead of fixing or adding new pipeline capacity to the 40+ year old lines laid in bad locations, they would rather adopt the 'do use that dirty stuff' mentality.

So it's a Floyd thought.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:45:56 PM

"I think we should close all of those fertilizer plants since they kill so many people, pollute the water with enriched run-off, and are THE primary ingredient for many IED's."

Sounds like a Floyd R Turbo editorial.
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2013 8:47:12 PM

Sorry to hear about the 16+ deaths in TX due to the fertilizer plant explosion.

I think we should close all of those fertilizer plants since they kill so many people, pollute the water with enriched run-off, and are THE primary ingredient for many IED's.

The farmers don't need all those dangerous chemicals to spread with oil based farm gear.
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:25:42 PM

MTBE was used because of the EPA,government mandate to oxygeneate gasoline.
And the mandate to get the lead out of gasoline. The goverments approved MTBE. Outside of the midwest it was the only alternative to ethanol.
They could have used beets in california for ethanol, but do to the goverment resitrictions on water use. The beet farms were ripped out.

My question is, what should have Exxon done to meet the government mandate?
I'm no way wanting to let Exxon of the hook when it makes calculated risk decisions. Like overpressuring ancient pipes to run heavy crude thru them.
Or neglecting the upkeep on refineries.
I also think it was dumb to go to MTBE. IMO Our tax paid regulators like EPA need to show considerably more resposibility when mnaking mandates.
http://www.epa.gov/mtbe/faq.htm
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2013 12:52:08 PM

"Exxon Mobil Corp. (XOM) should pay New Hampshire $236 million in damages for contaminating its drinking water with the gasoline additive MTBE, the state’s lawyers told a jury that is set to begin deliberations today.

The oil company knew that MTBE was hazardous and would pollute the groundwater and still approved its use for economic reasons, lawyers for New Hampshire told the jury during closing remarks yesterday in Concord."

.Exxon Mobil Knew Gas Additive Was Risky, N.H. Jury Told
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 7:09:51 AM

Sooner or later you will have some spills in your backyard
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