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aRBy
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2011 8:02:42 PM

Oh the SHAME! :+)

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marcusp2236
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2015 10:45:34 AM

None of my vehicles will run on E85.
aRBy
All-Star Author Grand Rapids

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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2015 8:00:29 AM

Alexi7:

Thanks for sharing that. On any given day, E85 may be a better value than regular 87 Octane. Yes, the fuel mileage is less, and so is the price. Sometimes 87 Octane is the better value. With fuel choice, we have options.

Americans like options! Some argue back and forth whether E85 is a better value. I've never participated in those arguments because the market fluctuates all the time.

WasabiPWRD
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2015 12:04:59 AM

shame
mtnrambo
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2015 10:55:25 AM

get your car to a AAA meeting !!! LOL!!!
mtnpotter
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2015 7:06:28 PM

Had to send my '03 Pilot to detox and rehab - the doc said at least 28 days without alcohol and then 90 meetings in 90 days at Gasaholics Anonymous.
My mechanic said he'd be my sponsor --
Alexi7
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2015 2:01:20 AM

Filled up my 2009 Pontiac G6(3.5L V-6) at the Speedway in Waterville,Ohio for $1.629. MPG wasn't great(19.3) but the cost per mile works out to $.0844, so, yeah, I was happy.
aRBy
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2015 10:13:13 PM

E85 is $1.49/gal in my neck of the woods. Given the spot price for ethanol, it seems to me that the price of E85 is being pegged to the price of 87 Octane even if it is sold at a loss.
aRBy
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2014 5:46:16 PM

Looks like the spot price for Ethanol closed at $1.73 today on the CBOT
aRBy
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2014 5:41:55 PM

$2.07/gal

Man! That's cheap. I wonder if someone is loosing money at that price. Anyone check the futures market for the current spot market price of ethanol?
aRBy
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 5:56:47 PM

I've been running my 2008 Impala FFV on E85 and have not had any maintenance problems. However, after a long period of running E85, I notice that my mileage starts to deteriorate. Running a couple of tankfuls of regular 87 Octane (E10) corrects this.

Lately, gasoline prices have dipped so I'm running more 87 Octane. No! My car isn't on the wagon. :-)

Once I get a couple of tankfuls of 87 Octane through my car, I'll report back what the local E85 prices are.
Sugarshaneo7
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2014 2:05:10 PM

cool story
SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 12:43:43 PM

skysteve1 asks "what does it do to engines ???"
I haven't encountered any ethanol related performance or maintenance problems and I've use high ethanol blends in two non-FFVs since 2007.
skysteve1
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 11:58:52 AM

what does it do to engines ???
mpsan
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 1:14:23 AM

Sucks to be you
stopforgas
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Message Posted: May 4, 2014 10:21:45 PM

You should only run your car on liquor if you are out of gas and no gas station is in sight.
APlus
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Message Posted: May 4, 2014 5:25:17 PM

Well if that is what ur car runs on ????
BAJALRRP
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Message Posted: May 4, 2014 11:33:20 AM

I'd rather use corn to make steak.
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 11:42:24 PM

Good thing they don't use corn in the tank when doing mpg test
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 10:26:53 AM

Ok
krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 8:48:15 AM

Tsunamiron wrote: "I sure wish they would get rid of ethanol. It is destroying our fuel systems and depleting our farmlands of vital nutrients."

How so? Please provide detailed explanation for both. How many "destroyed fuel systems" have you experienced personally?

[Edited by: krzysiek_ck at 5/1/2014 8:49:39 AM EST]
Tsunamiron
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 7:57:54 AM

I sure wish they would get rid of ethanol. It is destroying our fuel systems and depleting our farmlands of vital nutrients.
rippinusoff
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 7:55:51 AM

Ok
Bus936
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 5:07:13 AM

No your car isn't an alcoholic, in fact it doesn't even like ethanol.
ThunderBird89
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 3:06:05 AM

my 1970 Nova SS is non-alcoholic.... but it sure likes leaded premium gasoling
btex49
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 2:44:22 AM

Don't use the stuff myself!
MikeCapeCoral
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 2:39:26 AM

No corn...
nurdco
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 2:36:54 AM

Poor fuel ecojomy
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 1:21:57 AM

OK
FlyNFool
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 12:18:42 AM

So am I.
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 10:44:55 PM

$3.80 Fishkill NY
YodaON
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 10:33:08 PM

runs better on gasoline
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 10:16:50 PM

$3.57 here
divebomber
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 9:02:36 PM

NEEDED ONLY ON WEEK ENDS!
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2014 4:13:46 PM

Prices down to $3.66 this afternoon. Would get better fuel mileage without the alcohol.
aRBy
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2014 11:54:39 PM

3.09/gal in my neck of the woods.
nurdco
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2014 12:12:47 AM

True EPA bar or pub
aRBy
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2014 11:01:57 PM

E85 has dropped 10 cents to 2.99/gal in W. Michigan
aRBy
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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2014 9:01:34 PM

"It might be an easy process. But, oxidizing methane to methanol reduces the energy value of the final product. The process would involve spending money to make the fuel more expensive. Does that make sense?"

It makes as much sense as extracting gasoline from crude oil.
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2014 8:21:06 AM

"Most important, potential methanol supply is very large due to the ease in which natural gas converts to methanol."

It might be an easy process. But, oxidizing methane to methanol reduces the energy value of the final product. The process would involve spending money to make the fuel more expensive. Does that make sense?
aRBy
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2014 10:35:40 PM

I prefer to promote natural gas by conversion to methanol ("wood alcohol"). Methanol can be mixed freely with gasoline in the same tank. Most modern EFI cars will run on methanol/gasoline just fine. Some might need some inexpensive component changes, but methanol works as well as ethanol.

Most important, potential methanol supply is very large due to the ease in which natural gas converts to methanol.
ItisAJeepThing
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 5:14:57 PM

We should be promoting clean American natural gas in the forms of CNG and LNG to replace all oil based fuels.
SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 3:30:06 PM

"duhhh.....A small engine is typically a lower horsepower air cooled 2 cycle or 4 cycle equipment engine such as is made by Briggs & Stratton, Kohler or Tecumseh and used on lawn mowers, tillers, snow blowers, etc. "

The answer is still yes, Little Tommy. Small engines can and are designed to run on alcohol mixtures. There's nothing special about size. Many of the newer small engines use fuel injection. That makes switching between different fuels seamless.

Tried that #2 yellow corn yet?
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 2:46:40 PM

" "Small engines weren't designed to run on an alcohol mixture, can they?"

They can be and are. I just leased a 2014 Chevrolet Volt. The little 4 cylinder engine is designed for 15%ethanol."

duhhh.....A small engine is typically a lower horsepower air cooled 2 cycle or 4 cycle equipment engine such as is made by Briggs & Stratton, Kohler or Tecumseh and used on lawn mowers, tillers, snow blowers, etc. A Chevrolet Volt does not use a small engine.
thebrohta167
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 7:53:00 AM

Mine is not, having that stuff forced down it throat.
SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 6:58:45 AM

"Small engines weren't designed to run on an alcohol mixture, can they?"

They can be and are. I just leased a 2014 Chevrolet Volt. The little 4 cylinder engine is designed for 15%ethanol.

"Its still stupid to be burning food, when are they going to use some other plant material for ethanol production? "

First, why don't you try making a diet of unprocessed #2 yellow corn and then come back and tell us it's food. Second, the US is a surplus producer of grain, corn included. Every year corn growers produce a more corn than can be consumed. They are real good at meeting market demand. If less is needed, they simply grow less corn. Your logic is flawed.
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2013 9:46:18 PM

Small engines weren't designed to run on an alcohol mixture, can they? yes they can tolerate 10%, but even the coming mandate for 15% blends will start damaging those small motors. The makers might start making small engines that can tolerate higher percentages but existing ones aren't going to like it. Its still stupid to be burning food, when are they going to use some other plant material for ethanol production?
Timons
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2013 10:34:10 AM

Your vehicle should seek the assistance of AAA (Alcoholic Automobiles Anonymous).

ggg452
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2013 9:12:57 AM

My truck is getting that way....vodka.
SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2013 8:52:24 AM

"Does it run on Jim Beam?"

If the Jim Beam was 190 proof, of course.
aRBy
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2013 10:32:22 PM

"I wouldn't want ethanol in my gasoline even if it was free!"

Well... you have ethanol in your gasoline. What are you going to do about it?

Do you really expect me to believe you wouldn't run ethanol in your car if it were free?
aRBy
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2013 10:30:21 PM

krzysiek_ck

"My car nor my motorcycle nor my small engines were designed for ethanol!"

That's probably true when it comes to 100% ethanol. Most small engines sold today will run on a 15% ethanol mix. Most cars built after 2002 will run on E85 without much problem.

However, most small engines will not run on 100% ethanol. I'm sure it wouldn't take much to rig them to run on 100% ethanol, but they aren't sold out-of-the-box to run on 100% ethanol.
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