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tomtom08

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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2011 7:22:33 AM

just vote yes or no should ethanol be added to gas
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ace12012
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2014 6:30:09 PM

no.
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2014 8:23:21 AM

" The only difference....10% ethanol, showing that ethanol gives little power in low compression ratio (9:1 to 12:1) gasoline engines. Ethanol needs high compression ratio ethanol engines to efficiently extract its energy.:

Nice theory. However, the "compression" generated by an engine at top dead center has as much to do with timing and manifold pressure as it does relative compression ratio. since the mid 1980s carmakers have sold engines with knock sensors. So, depending on the properties of the fuel, timing advances accordingly.

The psi generated at tdc in a modern engine would be the same, regardless of relative compression ratio. Even in the off the lot boring passenger car, timing adjusts to take advantage of the higher octane of ethanol to create more power, not less. According to a GM alternate fuels engineer I spoke with several years ago, the FFV Tahoe produced 5% more hp on E85 than regular gasoline.
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jay93LA
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2014 7:20:22 AM

no
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litesong
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2014 8:31:49 PM

I have many years of careful mpg records of 10% ethanol blend & 100% ethanol-free gasoline for 3 vehicles. 100% gasoline gives 8% to 5% better mpg. The only difference....10% ethanol, showing that ethanol gives little power in low compression ratio (9:1 to 12:1) gasoline engines. Ethanol needs high compression ratio ethanol engines to efficiently extract its energy. A minority of gasoline vehicles even show 10% increase with 100% gasoline. This means that ethanol in 10% ethanol blends produce NO power from those minority vehicles.
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PhilnTX
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2014 2:23:41 PM

No
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2014 1:34:35 PM

no
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46chief
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2014 11:25:34 AM

No!
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2014 11:25:25 AM

Has anybody here ever counted the results?...Nawww... of course not. Just a thread to vent.
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2014 9:57:54 AM

No. ..
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2014 9:33:56 AM

no
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2014 7:44:57 AM

no
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2014 8:53:43 AM

no
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2014 8:04:05 AM

no
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2014 4:11:24 PM

no.
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veee8
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 10:50:10 PM

No, and No to the politicos who foisted this abomination on us.
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timewalker
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 4:49:40 PM

Yes.
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 12:40:05 PM

A BIG no!
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 10:24:55 AM

no
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 10:51:22 PM

No
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 3:16:45 PM

no
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 2:31:07 PM

no
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 11:03:55 PM

yes
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 2:35:10 PM

NO
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 1:38:07 PM

no.
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 8:30:59 AM

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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 8:21:48 AM

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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 8:44:24 AM

no
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 11:38:52 AM

NO! NO!! NO !!!
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 10:00:37 AM

no
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 11:12:10 AM

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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 9:04:13 PM

no
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 9:28:36 PM

no
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 7:48:17 PM

We need more. E 20 would be great
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 6:55:30 PM

no it eats of fuel hoses
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 1:07:05 PM

no
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 10:28:53 AM

yes for environment, no for wallet
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 1:57:28 AM

hell no!
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2014 10:07:56 PM

no.
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 3:45:48 PM

No!
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 9:04:59 AM

"Without farm warfare would we consider using corn for ethanol production?"

Exactly, what "warfare" are you speaking of?
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jay93LA
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 8:36:55 AM

no
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 9:27:47 PM

I agree with GrumpyCat. Get rid of all the oil subsidies!!!
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sh1361
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 8:58:17 PM

I agree with GrumpyCat
Let the market decide.
Without farm warfare would we consider using corn for ethanol production?
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FatherFred
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 10:52:30 AM

no
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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 10:34:37 AM

Lets let free markets decide. Eliminate all favoritism.
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 9:54:13 AM

no
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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2014 1:22:31 PM

>>>>> NO <<<<<
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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2014 7:24:16 AM

No!
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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2014 2:25:41 AM

No
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jay93LA
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Message Posted: Jul 13, 2014 12:18:15 PM

no
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