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Bonito

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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2007 8:17:31 PM

The stations I see are charging the same or more for E85, SO WHO WANTS IT? So we are using less oil -- big deal! E85 will not fly in the US unless we ARE REQUIRED to use it or IT'S CHEAPER!
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2014 4:14:11 PM

Bonito, do you have any evidence to support your claim?
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Bonito
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2014 2:46:46 PM

EAT CORN DON'T BURN IT! \

-We will run out of food long before we run out of Oil!
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2014 8:52:34 AM

grain supply arguments withstanding, it is a fact that right after grain started being used to produce ethanol, corn prices went drastically up and have remained so since."

That year would have been 1979. Corn sold for as high as $2.75 that year. However, going back to 1974 corn sold for as much as $3.90. Two years ago corn sold for well over $7 a bushel. The cash price for corn this morning is in the $4.50. Not much different than 40 years ago is it.

Not too many commodities that you can buy have stayed flat in price. In fact, adjusted for inflation, that 1974 price would be equivalent to $17 in todays dollars. So much for your theory.

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OilerFan
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2014 7:41:50 AM

grain supply arguments withstanding, it is a fact that right after grain started being used to produce ethanol, corn prices went drastically up and have remained so since.
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2014 10:44:57 AM

"I think we should eat the corn and not burn it! We will run out of food long before we run out of oil! "

You realize the US produces more gain than the market can consume, each year. Furthermore, Oil represents more of your food dollar, than does grain. No oil, no food.
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Bonito
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2014 10:40:47 AM

I think we should eat the corn and not burn it! We will run out of food long before we run out of oil!
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Awing1
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2014 7:37:15 AM

No good. I filled E85 only once by accident (I didn't see the sign), and noticed that my car was not good. I was on a long trip and MPG was bad, too.
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the1roadhog
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2014 9:17:17 AM

nothing?
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badbobKY
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2014 9:00:34 AM

still not enough info
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rando991
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2014 8:14:31 AM

SoylentGrain is PEEPLE! It's PEEEPLE!
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 5:15:44 PM

jmtvt, are you really putting E85 into your non flex-fuel hybrid, or are you concerned about ethanol in your gas? I would think that if you were putting E85 in your car, your check engine light should come on because of too much oxygen in your exhaust.

I run high ethanol blends in my non-FFVs, but keep it below the level where the CEL comes on.
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jmtvt
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 4:23:55 PM

Is 85 bad for your car? I drive Honda Insight 2010 and can't find good information regarding whether it is killing my engine.
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CTarp
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 9:31:39 AM

I am not worried about E85- the government will take care of me.
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 9:24:07 AM

Rich, retailers have been adding ethanol to fuel since 1979. If specific issues were to occur, don't you think they would have Ben identified in 35 years?
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Rich_pa
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 9:19:02 AM

I have heard that it is bad for engines. I would like to see some proof both ways.
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 9:00:22 AM

"Ethanol is excellent for the wealthy people who sell it to us, who only have billions of dollars in their bank accounts."

"all the people I know who own shares of ethanol plants or shares of public ally traded companies that produce ethanol are not worth billions. They are average folks who dine at McDonalds, just like everyone else. Furthermore, ethanol is a domestic product. Those billionaires you refer to hire US workers and pay US taxes on the income from their product. Take a look at the unemployment rate of the predominately Ag states. It's really low.

[Edited by: SoylentGrain at 5/5/2014 9:01:26 AM EST]
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thuathienhue
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 8:49:05 AM

Corn and other grains are for eating
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Tsunamiron
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 7:46:33 AM

Ethanol is excellent for the wealthy people who sell it to us, who only have billions of dollars in their bank accounts.
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mpsan
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 1:13:39 AM

Nothing
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stopforgas
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Message Posted: May 4, 2014 10:22:12 PM

Absolutely nothing!
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jeff95519
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 5:46:39 AM

nobama
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rosyLI
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 1:08:39 AM

Ethanol is only good for government corruption.
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Wanderer417
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 12:08:22 AM

Ruining my engine which is recommended to use 91, preferably without ethanol.
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JohnofGB
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 12:05:40 AM

Its good for farmers and corn belt politicians.
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rando991
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Message Posted: May 2, 2014 8:36:01 AM

Good when it's much cheaper than regular...
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: May 2, 2014 8:27:15 AM

BobD2009 wrote: "It's good for crooked politicians to rip off the public."

How so?
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JohnofGB
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Message Posted: May 2, 2014 6:52:20 AM

Who wants E85? The farmers and corn belt politicians.
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mpsan
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Message Posted: May 2, 2014 1:51:06 AM

NOTHING!
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BobD2009
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Message Posted: May 2, 2014 1:36:49 AM

It's good for crooked politicians to rip off the public.
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mojo803
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 11:40:47 PM

$$$ in the politicians pockets
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installer
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 11:29:29 PM

This stuff is not even good enough to wash my motor.
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TheSicilian
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 10:27:17 PM

absolutely nothing
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nvwarped
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 7:09:04 PM

ok
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Eggo
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 4:39:45 PM

get rid of ethanol
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piggyster
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 3:22:05 PM

nothing
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FieroGT
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 2:42:18 PM

Easy, ethanol is good for the dumpster.
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 9:03:55 AM

FMREALTOR wrote: "Ethanol has ruined 3 weed eaters for me so far."

Why did you put E85 in them? Did you read owner's manual first?
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2granny
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 8:45:45 AM

Don't use e85..
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FMREALTOR
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 8:07:16 AM

Ethanol has ruined 3 weed eaters for me so far. No I spend the extra $$ at a marina to get recreation gas.
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SqrKpf
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 7:58:58 AM

Not much...
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WVUtailgater
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 7:50:23 AM

not really
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WestDriver
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 7:49:40 AM

People forget that there is less energy per gallon in alcohol laced gasoline. So, equivalent pricing means higher cost to run.
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WonderfulMI
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 6:34:16 AM

I put alcohol in my gasoline for my lawn mower, snowblower, and roto-tiller if I have trouble starting them at the start of the season. IT alcohol cuts the varnish from the carbureter, and they run just fine. My snowblower finally died after 39 years - the gearbox stripped.
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ThunderBird89
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 2:58:45 AM

Exx does not belong in the retail fuel market.... as a niche fuel for a niche market, let it stand on its merits and value
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rd2000
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 2:42:26 AM

just say no to E85
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btex49
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 2:42:14 AM

Don't use e85... it is bad for your engine!
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MikeCapeCoral
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 2:40:32 AM

None here in SW Florida.
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mpsan
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 1:12:18 AM

NOTHING
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Amplion
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 1:07:12 AM

BAN ETHANOL
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BobD2009
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Message Posted: May 1, 2014 12:44:47 AM

It's good for political insiders to scam taxpayers out of their money.
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