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Bonito

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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2007 8:17:31 PM

The stations I see are charging the same or more for E85, SO WHO WANTS IT? So we are using less oil -- big deal! E85 will not fly in the US unless we ARE REQUIRED to use it or IT'S CHEAPER!
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Alexi7
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2015 11:43:26 PM

Filled up the Equinox(2.4L 4 cyl. Flex Fuel) Sunday with E-85 at the Speedway in Waterville,Ohio for $1.489. 20.95 mpg/.071 cents per mile.
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2015 10:27:32 AM

"Corn-based fuel is wrong."

Imported crude oil, good.
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ggg452
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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2015 9:48:18 AM

Corn-based fuel is wrong.
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ray44512
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2015 4:34:17 PM

Hard to see any point in using E85.
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2015 10:56:09 AM

"Moxxor54: You are right smack dab in the middle of the Corn Belt. How can E-85 be expensive over there?"

Because ethanoil is currently more expensive to make then gasoline, and even the mandate is not eneough to distort the market enough to make ethanol appear cheaper?
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2015 9:32:00 AM

" How can E-85 be expensive over there? "

In the earlier years of E85 distribution, it was hard to find E85. The retailers were telling me the wholesalers were charging about as much for E85 as regular unleaded. I'm guessing, but, that points to less competition in distribution, than in larger populated states.

But, in the past several years, E85 is much easier to find in Iowa and the price spread at the pump has been significant.
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Alexi7
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2015 11:51:06 PM

Moxxor54: You are right smack dab in the middle of the Corn Belt. How can E-85 be expensive over there?
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Alexi7
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2015 11:49:39 PM

krzysiek: "Is it possible you are just making this up?", Good one!
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Alexi7
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2015 2:10:19 AM

Filled up with E-85 for $1.629 today. Works out to $.0844/mile.
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46chief
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2015 4:10:23 PM

It's good for lowering gas mileage.
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2015 9:50:49 AM

mtnrambo wrote: "E85 destroys engines..."

How many destroyed engines can you personally report? Is it possible you are just making this up?
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Alexi7
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2015 10:22:26 PM

E-85 is $1.699 here in NW Ohio. E-10 is back in the $1.90s. #1 diesel is finally under $3.00.
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mtnrambo
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2015 6:58:32 AM

E85 destroys engines...
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moxxor54
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2015 11:47:13 AM

I do not think E85 save money to everyone. E85 gas price is not even reasonable.
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teblevins
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2015 9:45:19 AM

Can't get it in my area. Closest e-85 is 70 miles away one-way. The cars get less mileage.
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Hammerstead
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2015 3:26:30 AM

I see after reading the article that a lot of people are misinformed thinking that after the corn is used for ethanol there is nothing left on the contrary you have a great high-protein feed that can be used in beef or pork or chicken for egg layers and eating chickens or turkeys. They also are high quality carbon dioxide that they concentrate liquefied for industrial uses.
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roadglide15
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2015 11:12:12 AM

I have a flexfuel Suburban, I run a tank of E85 maybe once a year, it's a good fuel system cleaner. Other than that, makes no financial sense to use it.
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Smokie2014
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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2014 10:12:54 PM

I think Ethanol is a short term. Soon or later, electric cars will replace it.
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2014 1:40:09 PM

As long as we have a free flow of ample energy, food and water will not be significant issues.
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Bonito
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2014 9:43:17 AM

Our future with oil is a dead end street. Food & water is needed and is critical to the future of the planet----not oil!
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E-Squirrel
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2014 5:41:46 PM

Bonito bemoans:

"We will run out of food long before we run out of oil!"

Well, _probably_ not.

While there have been periodic shortages of virtually everything in the world, humans have never "run out" of food, or else we would never have survived.

You know, the major problem affecting food shortages around the world is not from feeding corn into either cattle or an ethanol plant, but the politics of its distribution.
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2014 10:13:42 AM

"We will run out of food long before we run out of oil!"

You are aware that crops can be replanted on an annual basis or sooner? Farmers can also control production. So, when more grain is needed, production can be increased. I don't think that's the case with oil.
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Bonito
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2014 8:56:38 AM

I think we should eat the corn and not burn it! We will run out of food long before we run out of oil!
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2014 4:14:11 PM

Bonito, do you have any evidence to support your claim?
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Bonito
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2014 2:46:46 PM

EAT CORN DON'T BURN IT! \

-We will run out of food long before we run out of Oil!
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2014 8:52:34 AM

grain supply arguments withstanding, it is a fact that right after grain started being used to produce ethanol, corn prices went drastically up and have remained so since."

That year would have been 1979. Corn sold for as high as $2.75 that year. However, going back to 1974 corn sold for as much as $3.90. Two years ago corn sold for well over $7 a bushel. The cash price for corn this morning is in the $4.50. Not much different than 40 years ago is it.

Not too many commodities that you can buy have stayed flat in price. In fact, adjusted for inflation, that 1974 price would be equivalent to $17 in todays dollars. So much for your theory.

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OilerFan
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2014 7:41:50 AM

grain supply arguments withstanding, it is a fact that right after grain started being used to produce ethanol, corn prices went drastically up and have remained so since.
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2014 10:44:57 AM

"I think we should eat the corn and not burn it! We will run out of food long before we run out of oil! "

You realize the US produces more gain than the market can consume, each year. Furthermore, Oil represents more of your food dollar, than does grain. No oil, no food.
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Bonito
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2014 10:40:47 AM

I think we should eat the corn and not burn it! We will run out of food long before we run out of oil!
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Awing1
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2014 7:37:15 AM

No good. I filled E85 only once by accident (I didn't see the sign), and noticed that my car was not good. I was on a long trip and MPG was bad, too.
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the1roadhog
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2014 9:17:17 AM

nothing?
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badbobKY
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2014 9:00:34 AM

still not enough info
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rando991
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2014 8:14:31 AM

SoylentGrain is PEEPLE! It's PEEEPLE!
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 5:15:44 PM

jmtvt, are you really putting E85 into your non flex-fuel hybrid, or are you concerned about ethanol in your gas? I would think that if you were putting E85 in your car, your check engine light should come on because of too much oxygen in your exhaust.

I run high ethanol blends in my non-FFVs, but keep it below the level where the CEL comes on.
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jmtvt
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 4:23:55 PM

Is 85 bad for your car? I drive Honda Insight 2010 and can't find good information regarding whether it is killing my engine.
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CTarp
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 9:31:39 AM

I am not worried about E85- the government will take care of me.
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 9:24:07 AM

Rich, retailers have been adding ethanol to fuel since 1979. If specific issues were to occur, don't you think they would have Ben identified in 35 years?
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Rich_pa
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 9:19:02 AM

I have heard that it is bad for engines. I would like to see some proof both ways.
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SoylentGrain
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 9:00:22 AM

"Ethanol is excellent for the wealthy people who sell it to us, who only have billions of dollars in their bank accounts."

"all the people I know who own shares of ethanol plants or shares of public ally traded companies that produce ethanol are not worth billions. They are average folks who dine at McDonalds, just like everyone else. Furthermore, ethanol is a domestic product. Those billionaires you refer to hire US workers and pay US taxes on the income from their product. Take a look at the unemployment rate of the predominately Ag states. It's really low.

[Edited by: SoylentGrain at 5/5/2014 9:01:26 AM EST]
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thuathienhue
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 8:49:05 AM

Corn and other grains are for eating
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Tsunamiron
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 7:46:33 AM

Ethanol is excellent for the wealthy people who sell it to us, who only have billions of dollars in their bank accounts.
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mpsan
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Message Posted: May 5, 2014 1:13:39 AM

Nothing
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stopforgas
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Message Posted: May 4, 2014 10:22:12 PM

Absolutely nothing!
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jeff95519
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 5:46:39 AM

nobama
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rosyLI
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 1:08:39 AM

Ethanol is only good for government corruption.
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Wanderer417
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 12:08:22 AM

Ruining my engine which is recommended to use 91, preferably without ethanol.
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JohnofGB
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Message Posted: May 3, 2014 12:05:40 AM

Its good for farmers and corn belt politicians.
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rando991
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Message Posted: May 2, 2014 8:36:01 AM

Good when it's much cheaper than regular...
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: May 2, 2014 8:27:15 AM

BobD2009 wrote: "It's good for crooked politicians to rip off the public."

How so?
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JohnofGB
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Message Posted: May 2, 2014 6:52:20 AM

Who wants E85? The farmers and corn belt politicians.
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mpsan
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Message Posted: May 2, 2014 1:51:06 AM

NOTHING!
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