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ducatigirl

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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2014 2:42:40 PM

This has happened to me several times: I find the best price for premium unleaded on GasBuddy (my car only takes 91 or 93 octane) and I travel the extra distance for a better price, only to find the station is OUT of the grade I selected! This even happened to me twice in one day, even though prices had been posted 2 hrs earlier!

Definitely a bummer since gas stations aren't all that close together where I live and I end up having to pay a ridiculously high price just at the next gas station I come across before I run out of gas looking!

So please, Gas Buddy, figure out a way to indicate when a gas station has run out of a certain grade of octane!

Thanks...and tried to search for this topic already existing but didn't see a way to search topics, only authors, so hope this isn't a duplicate request...

[Edited by: ducatigirl at 6/29/2014 2:43:30 PM EST]
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2014 5:09:00 PM

What i meant is that if this suggestion were to be implemented, then an OUT indication would be visible from an app before the price would be reported. Thus the reporter would know to look for a continuation of that condition at the station, regardless of the price signage. Yes, I am saying it would be the reporter's duty to do that, else he should not report that fuel/grade.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2014 4:28:46 PM

CampKohler wrote: "I don't think it is too unreasonable to assume that a member, seeing a previous marking of OUT, would make sure that the marked fuel/grade was actually available before reporting a price."

CampKohler's comment seems to suggest that people intending to post gas prices have checked Gas Buddy and noted that a station was out of fuel and then, disregarding an overhead sign visible from the street, will drive into the station to check the pump (or check with the cashier) to ensure the product was actually available.

I don' think it's unreasonable, I just don't think it's realistic. I think that, while many people use Gas Buddy to compare prices before stopping to buy gas, most people posting prices on Gas Buddy noted don't check to see what prices are but, rather, simply drive by the station and either remember the price for later posting, or post on their mobile app while driving (or at the next stop). I doubt that any significant number of drivers, even if they reviewed the list, and noted a station was out of gas, would pull into the station to check the pump or ask the attendant if they, in fact, had the "out of gas" product. I just don't see them making that type of extraordinary effort of pulling into a gas station to verify or reconfirm what they saw on the overhead street-visible sign.

It might be reasonable to hope people actually or physically verify "oddity pricing"; I just don't think it's reasonable to think they do.

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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2014 8:37:30 AM

One more note on comments - While they show up on the full site, they are not showing up on the Android app and they use to.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2014 8:09:51 AM

"In one of the threads someone said that the comments were working again."

Yup they are. I just posted a price from my FSL and the comments posted. Thanks GB!
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2014 10:41:35 PM

In one of the threads someone said that the comments were working again.

But, regardless, although it would be nice to be able to enter something such as OUT to indicate the station is out of that grade, it likely won't solve the OPs problem to a great extent.

In many cases the prices are posted from the street sign. Stations (at least around me) don't usually take the price off the street sign (depending on how modern their signs are) for the grade that they ran out of unless they will be out for an extended period. Therefore, those driving by the station will still report the price as on the sign.

So, even an option to mark the station as out of a grade of fuel, there will still be times when he will arrive to find the station out of the fuel because someone posted from the sign, or they ran out of fuel between the last post and the time he arrives.

So, sometimes it isn't the best idea overall to chase a few cents by going too far off your standard route -- especially if you are running low and need fuel and wouldn't be able to continue on to a different station if the price had changed or the station had run out of fuel.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2014 7:08:54 PM

I don't think it is too unreasonable to assume that a member, seeing a previous marking of OUT, would make sure that the marked fuel/grade was actually available before reporting a price. However it would be reasonable to assume that an OUT fuel/grade could be reported many times as not out before the out condition is actually recognized and reported so. Perhaps what is needed then, is dealer indoctrination to pull down the signs for a fuel/grade that is out (but that is another effort).

Tx: I looked, but don't see the comments in my FSL; the Hide Comments button does nothing. I don't see anything in the v2.2.0 iPhone app, either. Would you please elaborate (perhaps in one of the topics on missing comments?).

[Edited by: CampKohler at 6/29/2014 7:13:04 PM EST]
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2014 6:18:15 PM

Comments are working again so folks can use that. The problem is, that the majority of prices are probably posted from the sign at the curb, so if the station does not zero out the price at the curb, it would still be posted by someone that drives by the station w/out going in and finding that they have run out of that grade.

<<" I find the best price for premium unleaded on GasBuddy (my car only takes 91 or 93 octane) and I travel the extra distance for a better price, only to find the station is OUT of the grade I selected! This even happened to me twice in one day, even though prices had been posted 2 hrs earlier!">>>

So I pull up to the pump at 1PM and there is gas and I post the price and at 1:30PM they run out of that grade but no one has been through to post that they are out of gas, you would still be disappointed at 2PM.

However, it might be nice to have the ability to mark as OUT... but that still likely would not solve your problem if no Gasbuddy has been in between the last sighted price and them running out of gas.

It is not a perfect world and never will be, however the more people posting prices more often would mean less stale prices. So, keep up the price posting for your fellow members :-).

And, as Gas_Buddy indicated, it is sometimes wisest to take the best price along your main route and not chase prices too far off your path as you use more gas and the time getting there and time is money too. Also, by filling up at 1/2 full, you aren't trapped when you take that flyer for the cheaper gas and it doesn't work out.



[Edited by: TxJeans at 6/29/2014 6:20:34 PM EST]
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2014 5:51:51 PM

This suggestion has been added to the Suggestion Tracking List as a new topic on an existing subject.

This suggestion often resurfaces at the time of natural disasters if stations are unable to replenish stock and run out. There should be a simple way to do this, such as posting a special, unlikely-to-occur price,* e.g. $.02, for the depleted fuel/grade, or all fuels/grades if the station is closed and it is not desirable to change the MSL status due to an expected very quick return to business such as might be warranted by being out of stock.

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*The reasonableness checkers for apps and the full site could be programmed to ignore this price.

[Edited by: CampKohler at 6/29/2014 5:53:41 PM EST]
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jun 29, 2014 3:40:08 PM

"So please, Gas Buddy, figure out a way to indicate when a gas station has run out of a certain grade of octane!"

As you realize, Gas Buddy has no way of knowing if a specific gas station runs out of a specific blend of fuel, nor are gas stations obligated to let Gas Buddy know they're out of fuel. The accuracy of gas availability and prices are dependent on Gas Buddy members such as you and I. As you've been accurately posting gas prices to help others be more knowledgeable about prices and fuel availability, hopefully others are doing the same for you.

That said, 91 octane is a common fuel; regularly available at many if not most gas stations. Before driving out of your way you may want to reconsider how much you're saving by driving out of the way for the lower priced fuel; you may end up paying more for the gas you use to get there and back than you would have spent buying gas that's higher priced but closer to you.

In any case keep up the good work posting prices and helping others, even if you aren't helped as much as you'd like.
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