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pupeperson

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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 3:14:38 PM

With many stations dispensing up to 20% Bio-Diesel in their diesel fuel, it would be a great addition to the site if one could easily discern which stations were dispensing what type of fuel. Fuel mileage with 20% Bio is markedly lower than with 100% petroleum diesel, making a price disparity between the two much more meaningful. With current average pricing unless the 20% bio is $.25 or so lower per gallon, the buyer is better off from a fuel mileage perspective paying more per gallon for the straight petroleum diesel fuel.
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ProfDude
Champion Author Illinois

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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2014 3:57:52 PM

The biodiesel problem is somewhat like the cash/credit problem is like the ethanol problem in that they all vary by geographic market.

Here in Illinois most every ounce of diesel fuel sold is somewhere from B-11 to B-20. A few stations can tell you what they sell, but most cannot. From what I can tell, only Casey's, Kroger (and their Food4Less brand) and Meijer sell P100 to B5 in Illinois. To someone like me who drives a car only warranted up to B5, this matters greatly. I have a heck of a time buying the "proper" diesel fuel in my home state.

Alas however, I think it is like tony1679 and many others on this site have previously alluded to, the GB staff is overwhelmed by the enormity of being all things to all people and as such we may always be somewhat disappointed with the site's capabilities, especially if we buy anything other than regular gas at a station that only has one cash/credit/debit price for that gas. Oh, and that station has a huge sign clearly visible from miles away so no one misreads it. Oh, and a million cars pass directly by daily so the price is constantly updated.
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tony1679
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2014 8:18:06 AM

MadFueler - I know it is not "dying." Its presence is stronger every day in my area. I know which stations are which, and also know about pure-gas. But what I don't know is what each station's price is that carries it. GB is the only site I know of, but refuses to add the option of posting two prices. And to quote myself from another thread - "I guess I joined ethanolbuddy. Any ideas where I can find a site that lists GAS prices?"

But I don't want to hijack this thread. Biofuel is being forced down nearly everybody's throat. GB should get with the program and realize the keyword NEARLY. In order to make the site better and more accurate for listing fuel prices (correct me if I am wrong but that is GB's ENTIRE purpose), they need to allow a price for EVERY type of fuel. This will solve cash/credit, biofuel, and confusion caused by reporting multiple fuels to one allowed box. But sadly, after only a month here, I realize this won't happen, nor will virtually any other improvement. I'm beginning to question why I joined GB....
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2014 9:27:47 PM

Many stations where? In Missouri or throughout the USA and Canada?
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MadFueler
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2014 8:48:18 PM

Yet another reason to bring the comment field back to the app. (Hmmm, I seem to be repeating this often nowadays).

pupeperson, I don't know how prevalent biodiesel is in your area, but only two stations within a fifty-mile radius have it around me (as with E85) - so IMO for most people a comment for the occasional aberration would be more useful than another entry field.

tony1679 - I'd rate E0 as a hard-to-find fuel in most large urban areas, but dying it isn't. Check out, for example this thread in the NC local discussion area (you might have similar ones on your state and nearest local sites too) as well as pure-gas.org - you see, there are ways around this even if the app or site doesn't give them to you directly.



[Edited by: MadFueler at 6/11/2014 8:50:35 PM EST]
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tony1679
Rookie Author Oklahoma City

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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 10:20:48 PM

Pupeperson- coming from another new guy, good luck!

I have already barked up this tree on the gasoline side (E-0, E-10, etc.). The discussion went nowhere fast. Although I never heard directly from a moderator (they don't seem to exist), the answer I was given stated they want no part in ethanol content. Also they said E-0 is a "dying fuel" so it would be a waste of time. So in your case, switch gasoline to diesel and ethanol to bio-diesel and do the math. I would be shocked (and I would raise ****) if you get them to change anything.

I'm 100% on your side and agree with you, but warning you it is a losing battle.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 3:22:44 PM

This suggestion has been added to the Suggestion Tracking List as a new topic on an existing subject.
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