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ny10

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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2014 11:12:13 AM

It would be better if one can earn more points and no limit on how much can earn in daily.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2014 1:24:37 PM

Toadman,

Thank you for your suggestion, however I see no reason for such change. I think the points are fine as they are. Sure, for those that don't drive daily, or live rural it is a bit harder, but it also has to be balanced across all types of access members have to find and post prices.

Additionally the programming to make a changing algorithm would be better used on fixing/enhancing other areas of the site/apps.

People need to post prices they see and not get so wrapped up in points and awards and such but to just post prices as they live their life.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 5:42:24 PM

And again, those who want more ways to earn points have yet to avail themselves of the points available! Toadman7 has left over 2,000,000 points on the table. Makes ya scratch your head, doesn't it?

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 2/10/2014 5:40:43 PM EST]
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Toadman7
Champion Author Dallas

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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 3:39:18 PM

What I am suggesting is, for example, if a member misses out on posting 1 or 2 gas prices in a given day, give them the chance to make that up.

If somebody joins, let's say 100 or 365 days ago:
gas price point max: 150 points * 5 times a day * 100 days = 75,000 points
or 150 points * 5 times a day * 365 days = 273,750 pnts

If this same member misses posting 5 gas prices in this time frame, they should be able to post extra gas prices to reach the "membership max" for gas prices.

Maybe only do with the points from gas prices, not with the other ways of getting points.This was just an idea that came to me, and am just putting it out there.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 2:19:43 PM

Toadman7:

"How about having the max points you could earn be based on how long a member has been signed up on this sight instead of there being a max points per day.
"So, if a member misses earning points on a given day(s), they can have the opportunity to make them up on a later day."

It seems you're making two different suggestions. The first, "max points based on length of membership" sounds like you're saying - and I'm making up numbers for this example - "If you joined last month, you can earn 975 points a day...if you joined last year you can earn 2,500 points a day...and if you joined in 2005 you can earn 100,000 points a day."

Wouldn't that seem to award extra points to people who have been long time members but who might have contributed only once in while...perhaps one gas price post a month, but they get extra credit because "they're old members"?

The second thing you're suggesting, ""So, if a member misses earning points on a given day(s), they can have the opportunity to make them up on a later day." sounds like, "if I didn't get points on Tuesday because I didn't take part in Gas Buddy, I can get my "Tuesday points" on Wednesday if I post a little extra" or "If I don't do anything for a week, I can still get my weeks' points by posting extra next week."

Seems to me that's a relatively easy way to abuse the system, not having to do anything except when you feel like it, and you still can get all the rewards or benefits. Personally, I don't see the suggestions being beneficial, at least not the way you explained it, but that's just my thinking.
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Toadman7
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2014 11:44:54 AM

I just thought of something, but I am not sure how well it will go over with those who make the decisions for improvments/changes to this website.

How about having the max points you could earn be based on how long a member has been signed up on this sight instead of there being a max points per day.

So, if a member misses earning points on a given day(s), they can have the opportunity to make them up on a later day. I would think the exception might be not being able to make up points from the weekly poll. Of course, the member would lose their consecutive days number.

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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2014 2:57:45 PM

datchboy:

"different points for gas grades and diesel should be awarded plus u should be able to get point 35 points for posting"

For clarification, why would/why should you get different points for different gas grades and diesel? What would make one price more valuable (in terms of points) than another price? Can you give an example of how many points should be awarded for each grade or what the points difference should be between gas grades (for perspective of the idea)?

As for "plus u should be able to get point 35 points for posting", are you suggesting that in addition to whatever points you get for posting the different gas/diesel prices, you should also get an additional 35 points for each post? Are you suggesting awarding the "plus" 35 points for something else?

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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2014 9:48:16 AM

datchboy, why?
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datchboy
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2014 9:26:53 AM

different points for gas grades and diesel should be awarded plus u should be able to get point 35 points for posting
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2014 8:22:21 PM

@flyguy71 "I think that they should decrease points per fuel price posting (maybe 100 per), but increase number of posts that you can get per day (maybe 8 per)....."

In some areas many stations only post the REG price, and in rural areas member have a hard enough time getting 5 prices. In MY opinion the 5 prices is just about right and requiring more to get your daily points would lead to an increase in false posting.
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flguy71
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2014 7:36:18 AM

until this year, I was mostly a user..... but am now a regular contributor
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2014 7:44:00 PM

scoutmaster

"But you can tell how much a member contributes by their point total and in this case, flguy71 hasn't contributed very much. I post a bunch of prices that I don't get points for."

I guess you're right, it's possible that, by maximizing his points/gas price posting on any given day that he's in fact posted (for all I know) a million gas prices that he didn't get credit for. But that means, in order to do so, he would have limited his gas price posting to (based on points amortization) having posted gas prices on 24 days over the past 4 1/2 years. But yes, I'll concede his having posted tens of thousands or more gas prices.

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LarryMarg
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2014 6:47:57 PM

"we would see more price postings that way" - But would we see any more *meaningful* price posts? Or just more re-posting of existing prices for points?

I post all the prices I see (and manage to make note of). Sometimes it's a lot more than 5 / day; sometimes it's less. Being able to get points for 3 more prices doesn't mean that I'd be seeing more prices on any particular day.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2014 9:05:49 PM

Great point Gas_Buddy. But you can tell how much a member contributes by their point total and in this case, flguy71 hasn't contributed very much. I post a bunch of prices that I don't get points for.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2014 8:42:28 PM

flyguy71:

"I think that they should decrease points per fuel price posting (maybe 100 per), but increase number of posts that you can get per day (maybe 8 per).....we would see more price postings that way"

Not being cynical, but in over four years of membership, you've posted about 120 gas prices, about two gas prices a month. Not saying that you're here for the points (but rather that you're here to post gas prices), but why would you think that getting fewer points per post would encourage more price posting? Do you think that you (only because you suggested it) would be posting more prices than you have been if you received fewer points? I'm just asking for perspective.
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flguy71
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2014 7:13:54 PM

I think that they should decrease points per fuel price posting (maybe 100 per), but increase number of posts that you can get per day (maybe 8 per).....

we would see more price postings that way
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2014 8:46:16 PM

RS101: "Not sure if I agree, 975 each day is alot (sic) of points."

I like the 975 that we can earn daily. I would like to say thanks to you for your contribution to GasBuddy since you joined. Too many newbies want more and more and more points without taking advantage of what's available.

Have a great night!! :) It's several degrees below zero here, I'm sure you have the same! Keep warm!
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2014 2:59:41 PM

RS101:

"Not sure if I agree, 975 each day is alot of points."

I don't 975 is a lot of points. Nor do I think it's a small number of points. It's simply an arbitrary number of points, something that was made up, as was the number of points necessary to "buy" tickets to the weekly drawing. Gas Buddy could have just as easily given 5 points for each gas price post, 1 point for each message post, and 2 points for each news article read. Or it could have given 1,000 times that many. Would that make the first one any more of "not a lot of points"? and the second "a heckuva lot more points"? It all depends on how many points are needed to enter the drawing.

What the points do is secondary to how many posts a member can make daily in order to maximize the number of posts they make in order to control or limit excess posting "for points". Said another way, even if you only got 1 point for every gas price posted, what ny10 is asking for is that he (and everyone else) can post an unlimited number of gas price posts every day. It has nothing to do with "alot" or "a little" amount of points.
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RS101
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Message Posted: Jan 23, 2014 5:24:14 AM

Not sure if I agree, 975 each day is alot of points.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2014 1:43:43 AM

This suggestion has been added to the Suggestion Tracking List as a new topic on an existing subject.

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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2014 7:12:18 PM

I agree with everyone else. The ones who complain about points seem to be the ones who don't take advantage of the points they can earn. ny10 has only earned about 30% of the total points possible.

So in other words, nothing to see here, move along.
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2014 3:33:03 PM

What everyone said.

Seems as if the people who whine about more points all the time are the ones who don't max out what is available.

ny10, why would it be better? Better for you? Me? GasBuddy? Joe Blow? "...and no limit on how much can earn in daily" doesn't make any sense.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2014 2:45:10 PM

First, ny10, why would "It be better if one can earn more points and no limit on how much can earn in daily"?

What would be the benefit of "more points" and the benefit of "no limit".
And that's a two part question: What's the benefit to the member and the membership as a whole, and what's the benefit to the Gas Buddy website and/or mobile apps?

Second, (forgetting posting of false prices), you don't think that having an unlimited amount of points wouldn't lead to some members simply posting the same gas price (perhaps) several hundred times a day, or automating posting (as some members have done for message board posting) in order to get an unlimited number of points?

Sorry, but unless you can come up with a reason other than "It would be better...", I can't see why the current system should be changed. Why would it be better?
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Retired-Coastie
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2014 2:23:58 PM

Sorry, no.
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2014 1:55:03 PM

These type of requests are fairly common. A quick look through this category will result in all kinds of "ideas" to increase points that members can earn. Many of those requests, for whatever reason, are from members that have left a lot of points on the table. In this case ny10 you have left about 700,000 points on the table.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2014 12:02:06 PM

No, I don't think it would be better. It would lead to abusive posting for unseen prices.
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