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Serenity 03

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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2014 10:18:06 AM

When I get a Gas hike notification I would like to see a share icon so I can share it in facebook and maybe for those who are on twitter. What your thought be?
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2014 6:45:52 PM

This idea was original with Serentiy_03. My apologies.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2014 8:37:59 AM

The current hike alert notice is typical of what has been described in the discussion below.

I received the alert here yesterday(south central Indiana); however, prices have not and likely will not increase here at this time. In northwest Indiana though, and more specifically in Lafayette/West Lafayette and surrounding areas, a price hike did occur. The lowest prices there were hovering around $3.00 and now are mostly $3.45. People who saw the alert and were able to react in time probably saved between $.35 and $.45/gal. Prices will now fall several cents/day until the next spike occurs generally in the next two to three weeks or sooner.

The point being that these price spikes are somewhat localized and are not statewide. Perhaps as many as 4 or 5 spikes occurred between October 2013 and January 2014 in the northern areas of Indiana, as well as, Ohio, Illinois and southern Michigan. During this same period some parts of the south central area of Indiana remained under $3.00/gal.

The GasBuddy hike alert is useful for those who travel to the affected areas, so there should be no complaint with casting a wide net and informing members in areas where prices are not rising. Yet, it still seems apparent that social media may reach too far and is probably overkill for informing people of an impending price hike in local areas.

I still think the best bet is to encourage active membership of friends and followers here on the GasBuddy web site and or with the app.

RG



[Edited by: RichWLIN at 2/9/2014 8:37:38 AM EST]
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2014 8:58:59 AM

TxJeans allows: "We seem to have gone off on a tangent from the OPs suggestion..."

How true. The OP was answered sufficiently early on in this thread and he/she has not returned to the discussion to acknowledge or respond one way or the other. Questions here typically take a turn off course, and I suppose we're all guilty of following ensuing lines of thought until the discussion bears no semblence to the original subject matter.

The price spikes in Michigan and its surrounding states are relatively large and frequent, but they are not linear in terms of distribution. Some northern Indiana members, for instance, are exposed to frequent increments of as much as $.25-.40 before decreasing a few pennies/day; while parts of southern Indiana are not effected often, if at all, and prices are relatively stable for the most part. Having lived and reported prices in both places, I can attest that price spikes are constrained to certain areas and are not statewide.

This is the rationale for suggesting that the social media approach to informing folks of a gas price spike is probably over-kill unless all friends and followers exist within the same general area of travel.

If GasBuddy is paying attention to this discussion, maybe the development team should consider adding a link to the price hike alert that permits members to share the app or website URL with others. Seems like I've received pop-ups in the app before that attempted to do something similar to this. Something as unobtrusive as a simple sentence that suggests sharing GasBuddy with others?

RG

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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2014 7:04:45 AM

We seem to have gone off on a tangent from the OPs suggestion...of sharing (and the OP is in one of the ares that tend to have dramatic ups and downs compared to many other areas where the trend line is a smoother transition as it rises and falls.

I suspect that many of the complaints are because the notifications are not granular enough and asking for it to be "configurable" is really going beyond what I would expect and still probably wouldn't satisfy many unless it was also configurable in which stations, not just what zip or the delta.

When I watch the prices in my site, it often seems that prices on my route may not be going up or down with even the "rising/falling" arrow. Big spikes amongst a few stations can cause that arrow to change to red, but, and I may see trend across the bay area, but my ROUTE (not my neighborhood) will often be still dropping and never go to red before the arrow changes back to green.

I suspect the notices are not granular enough for each individual's route and group of watched stations. And, if you happen to be in an area such as some areas of the midwest where prices are saw-toothed, you may not get the alert soon enough if the stations you follow are the sentinel stations that are the first to raise prices.

I am signed up for email alerts for price hikes. I have never received one. So if you are getting ANY email notifications, count your self as lucky.

However, I would like the zip search to be really a ZIP search and not converted to "area" search.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2014 5:12:57 AM

We are not paying with our eyeballs. Your eyeballs would see these prices anyway. All we are doing is letting others know what our eyeballs are seeing.
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DiannaFan
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2014 11:36:31 PM

We *are* paying for the site. With our eyeballs on the ads. That's where GasBuddy makes their money. And no I don't have a problem with that. All my suggestion does is replace one system that doesn't seem to be working that well with another that might work better. If GB wants to go the freemium model, that might work too.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2014 3:41:40 PM

RichWLIN posted:

"GB provides an online venue from which they garner volunteer data gathering and support while stimulating traffic and site activity that generates a healthy income from advertising revenue. Why wouldn't volunteers ask for and expect to be kept informed?"

That's an entirely fair rational (Gas Buddy gains from contributions of the members) and an entirely valid question about a return of information.

I think there are several answers. First, the home page of the website does provide a very vanilla-type notification of price increases/decreases/stability, though clearly not specific to given areas or (in many cases) remotely informative. Second, Gas Buddy does "price hike" notifications, simply and clearly not as much or as expeditiously as some members may want.

Strictly from a management view, how much of what Gas Buddy (and it's parent company) gathers, which is more involved than simply compiling information from volunteer price posting, should be given away versus be sold? While I might appreciate receiving the information that's currently (from what I understand) sold to members, businesses, etc., I don't think that I (as a member) should be told everything in real-time basis (if for no reason other than I'm probably not going to immediately run out and buy a tank of gas before the projected price hike - for two reasons: One, because I likely don't need so much that a one tank of fuel gas (even if I'm completely empty, regardless of fuel tank size) will be that much of a financial difference than if I waited and bought after the price increase), and two, it's entirely possible (if not probable) that hike won't be "IN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES" (upper case for emphasis of immediacy) to make a difference. And, while others may disagree - and I do understand RichWLIN's perspective among others - I accept that Gas Buddy can and will provide only a limited amount of information as long as it's in the retail information business. What my concern is isn't the "asking for everything" as much as it is (and it will sound redundant and/or conflicting) asking for Configure the alert to be whatever you want it to be." I just don't see how or why Gas Buddy should give the "whatever you want" part away when it's in the business of selling the "whatever you want" parts. Asked another way, should they stop selling the "whatever you want" in favor of giving it to people who volunteer the posting of prices?

I don't find RichWLIN's post or views (or that of some othres) wrong as much as I simply have a different expectation about what should be "free", which is I don't expect "...whatever you want it to be" as long as Gas Buddy is clearly selling such services. Take your choice: "They can't sell what they're giving away" or "People won't buy what they're providign free", or "They can't be in the dual business of providing to anonymous 'members' who occasionally volunteer gas prices and their opinions in the discussions - and yes, some do read the advertisements which pay for the website's operation - and charging businesses for the same information that the anonymous members want at no cost".
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FXSpringer01
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2014 12:24:57 PM

Please more info about diesel pricing changes.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2014 8:52:55 AM

Right on the money Gas Buddy. This is a free site. Costs nothing except your time.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2014 7:14:45 AM

Gas_Buddy allows:"After all, they're providing a free service. What do we or should we expect for free?"

Interesting take on "free" that sounds just a bit sanctimonious. It should be obvious that this site is only free to those who use it without contributing. Everyone else puts time and effort into "paying it forward" as another member has offered.

GB provides an online venue from which they garner volunteer data gathering and support while stimulating traffic and site activity that generates a healthy income from advertising revenue.

Why wouldn't volunteers ask for and expect to be kept informed?

RG


[Edited by: RichWLIN at 2/3/2014 7:15:16 AM EST]
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 7:49:46 PM

DiannaFan:

"Do we even know what the criteria we use now is?"

No we don't, but I'm not sure that Gas Buddy should have to tell us what their criteria is or their internal machinations. But that's just me. After all, they're providing a free service. What do we or should we expect for free?

"It seems to me the answer is easier. Configure the alert to be whatever you want it to be. When prices in area X (by ZIP/county/state/whatever) go up or down by Y, send me an email."

I don't have a problem with "When prices in area X go up or down..." but "...whatever you want it to be" seems a little excessive. Again, Gas Buddy is providing the current notifications as a free service. They and their parent company apparently provide more "professional" and more complete information for a fee. Are saying that you're willing to pay a fee for individualized service/reports configured to "whatever you want"?
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DiannaFan
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 5:46:02 PM

It seems to me the answer is easier. Configure the alert to be whatever you want it to be. When prices in area X (by ZIP/county/state/whatever) go up or down by Y, send me an email. Do we even know what the criteria we use now is?
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 2:21:06 PM

"there needs to be a more streamline, interactive way of distributing price hikes."

Distributing "price hikes"?

Any suggestions on how you want price hikes be more streamlined? Or in what way you want price hikes to be "interactive"? Are you suggesting that Gas Buddy post everything on Twitter and/or Facebook? Realizing that not everyone on those sites will care about price hikes not in their immediate areas?

Something some people seem to forget is that the "price hike notification" system isn't perfect, and just because gas prices "hike" in one area, doesn't necessarily mean it's a significant price hike (even if it's as much as a dime a gallon), in part because the hike might be very localized and might affect only a few stations.

To repeat RichWLIN's post regarding the original intent of this thread, a "share icon" so information on prices can be shared, "Maybe sharing the web site or app with local friends would work as well or better?"

Information on this website, on the mobile site and on the apps is only as good as the information provided by members. That's what should be encouraged: Joining and sharing information, more than randomly posting it on Facebook or Twitter to people who might not care about very localized prices, even if those very localized prices rise or drop significantly in a short period.
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gasmask78
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 1:27:11 AM

I agree, there needs to be a more streamline, interactive way of distributing price hikes.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2014 2:18:08 AM

This suggestion has been added to the ggestion Tracking List as a new topic on an existing subject.

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grandpa2001
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2014 5:18:33 PM

I wish the gas hike notification would come as it is trending up. I seem to always get the notifications after I see they have gone up. (Like, on my way to work in the morning, I see that the prices rose 10 or 11 cents since the day before and I get the notification around noon!)
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2014 5:54:19 PM

As RichWLIN wrote, and TxJeans agreed with,

"Maybe sharing the web site or app with local friends would work as well or better?"

In addition to your friends receiving "gas hike notifications", they can learn prices in their local driving area so that they don't have drive out of their way unnecessarily to find gas prices, and they can post gas prices to further help their fellow members be more knowledgeable shoppers.

(Amazing that RichWLIN has come around to my way of thinking. Well, maybe not; RichWLIN is rational, open-minded, and understanding of differing opinions and perspectives.)
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2014 3:40:33 PM

RG said <<"Maybe sharing the web site or app with local friends would work as well or better?">>

And I agree fully that sharing of the website and app with one's local friends sounds like the best idea, and it is one that doesn't require waiting for GBO to make changes. :-)
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2014 10:51:15 AM

Sharing hike alerts sounds like a pretty good idea.

However, the gas price hike alerts are localized, even within certain areas of a state, so the people who would be interested in hearing about the increase would need to live in your area.

Maybe sharing the web site or app with local friends would work as well or better?

RG
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