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TimEum

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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 2:51:01 PM

I think it is great that at 3 million points Gas Buddy members get to be represented by a long large limosine.

I think it is a tragedy that at 3.25 million points and above they get represented by a really little car.

It would be more consistent to have larger cars/trucks represent larger accumulations of points. How about a double trailer truck?

Getting that "little car" is so much a slap in the face that it makes me want to quit reporting in Gas Buddy after I get to 3 million.

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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 10, 2014 6:40:43 AM

"Christians should be more concerned with being modest instead of spouting their point of view."

Got any Scripture references to support that?
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jbwitley
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2014 5:31:19 PM

I will miss Tim.
Christians should be more concerned with being modest instead of spouting their point of view. Nice try Tim.
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movrshakr
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 9:53:52 PM

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A larger icon for higher points is TOTALLY logical.

I care not about word definitions or any of the other side diversions in the thread.

I care not about whether any one person thinks it is not needed or is unimportant.

OP is correct: it is totally logical and, conversely, not doing it is illogical.

Accomplishing it would be completely trivial from a resources standpoint.
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buckeyecountry
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 1:08:43 PM

don't hold your breath ... lol
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Tommyguns45
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 9:55:59 AM

I was thinking the same thing why have to go smaller again. Im working toward my orange and will be happy since my brown car looks more like a rookie's tan. After having a big Semi, Limo, etc at working hard to get those points for those over a million + I see it kind of senseless to have to drop back down to just a red jeep looking icon. Maybe the Staff Bus should be an airplane and give the bus to us. Hope it changes before I get up there someday.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2014 7:17:15 AM

Don't sweat it Gas Buddy. The suggestion is not that important. And I still want to be the piece of glass!
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2014 5:48:56 AM

Gas_Buddy - Do really not see your posts as being extremely condescending? Seriously? Picking on one word in a sentence, making the person you are talking to look petty is okay? If the topic isn't all that important to you, maybe you shouldn't bother chiming in.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 8:27:50 PM

"Instead Gas Buddy ridiculed the proposal, picking at the words (like "tragedy") instead of addressing the topic. "

Just for the record, I didn't ridicule words. What I wrote was:
"Assuming that the post isn't tongue-in-cheek, it's a "tragedy" that the next points level is a smaller car? A "tragedy"?"

There was no ridicule in the comment; there was not insinuation; there was, however, a questioning of the word, which was the reason for the highlighting parenthesis, but I didn't ridicule the proposal. If anything, I thought my comment, which is similar to what I said in other threads discussing the icons, was simple and self-explainatory. I repeat what I said previously: "I guess I just don't put the same emphasis on the points icon that others do, especially because (in my opinion) fewer people notice or can differentiate the icons than can interpret the numerical points indicated adjacent to the icon."

Hard to see how that's ridiculing the suggestion or anything other than a simple disagreeing with the original suggestion.

And I don't see what in my follow-up was equally innocuous and simply noted that the suggested alternative site didn't particularly meet the standard of the original suggestion. , and I, again, gave my reasoning. I wrote, as follow-up:

"What's interesting about Waze is the icons, emoticon or cartoonists as they are, are all pretty much the same size. They're pretty much like the heads of the old troll dolls (excerpt cartoonish). They don't seem to increase in size or get bigger as you increase your point standing and they certainly don't seem to be something to leave Gas Buddy for. But then I'm obviously paying more attention to the numerical designation than the icon designation."

Hard for me to see any ridicule in the posts, but then I'm biased because I thought I choose my words relatively carefully. If anyone thinks I've ridiculed them, consider this an apology, but note that I stand by the ideas of what I wrote.

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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 8:03:59 PM

I don't see the big deal about icons. I would have to look to see what mine is. It is really unimportant.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 6:56:58 PM

The maps was just an example of the latest mess that affects the FUNCTIONING of the site. Icons don't.

I agree their choice for the top one was a bit odd as it looks like it should be the FIRST red vehicle, not the top one and a change might make sense, but I don't see any reason to stop posting just because they didn't make the change.

All said and done, icons don't affect the PURPOSE of obtaining good gas price info...and is far from a tragedy. I hope the OP never experiences a true "tragedy". The OP used the term several times...followed by comments that if not changed he would stop posting prices and "working" for GBO.

To me it is more about posting accurate prices when I can (I am not out on the road daily - my car hasn't moved in 4 days-- but that changes with the seasons and changes in my job/life) than what sort of icon is next to my name.

The things that affect what matters most in finding cheap gas would be things like the map problem, the incorrect mapping that we suffered from for a long while with the APP changes and then the website cash/credit, the linking of fuel grades in MSL, the problem of false prices and not being able to zero out bad prices, the lack of action by mods when there is a member posting wrong prices consistently, the broken saved searches....
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 2:52:12 PM

In a follow up post, the OP asked, "Should the Gas Buddy icons be changed so that big vehicles represent big points while small vehicles represent smaller point totals"?

My answer is, "Definitely not." Though my screen name implies accurately my fondness for the large vehicle, I'm aware that there are many others who prefer smaller vehicles. They might dislike the huge icon as much or more as the OP prefers them and, for them, the prospect of the smaller one might be an incentive.

While I'd agree with many who can't quite elevate this issue all the way to tragedy, I'm not about to impose priorities on the OP. Like me, they may not use the heat map, so the map being all messed up may not impact them at all. A few weeks back, some pooh-poohed when I merely asked a question about why there was such a delay in posting and wondered when it might be fixed? It mattered to me because it was affecting my experience here at the site and a couple of weeks ago, things sped back up a lot.

The size of the "final" icon is of concern to this OP. Personally, I would prefer to keep a larger icon, too. Scoutmaster would like to be the piece of glass. CK would like the wheelbarrow. Buckeyecountry would like a convertible -- scarlet with grey lines, no doubt! My thought is that instead of a one-size-fits-all icon, upon reaching the top level (and the current top level seems a tad low these days), a member should be able to select most anything in a color that is reserved solely for the top level, making those folks as easy to spot as the newbies. I've read a bunch of the old threads and have a feel for what the longtimers went through and did for the site. So a dedicated color would seem appropriate.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 7:36:44 AM

While I agree their order of red vehicles is a little odd...I don't follow the icons other than noticing no or brown icons as newbies.

Some folks have the ability to be out and about every day and post prices every day, others may be retired, or work from home and don't post prices each and every day. That doesn't mean that they are slovenly in their role as a gasbuddy or abusers or just "users" of the site. Some folks may have joined and then because of lack of interest at the time, or various reasons left and came back later to start participating. I have seen false prices posted by all levels of cars, so I tend to learn the "trusty" screen names and those I don't trust rather than look at icons.

BUT, to whine about icons when the GBO can't even keep their maps functional while working on "improvements" and threaten to leave over an icon is just childish...especially if you consider it a "tragedy".
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 7:19:45 AM

You are correct Byte_Doctor. Gas Buddy - the member - is nothing more than a member stating his opinions.

TimEum,

Based on the topic title, the Religion category is where it belonged. It wasn't suppressed, just moved.

How would larger icons improved this site?
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 4:38:15 AM

Wow, this is still going after all these months!

TimEum,
"Yet Gas Buddy forcibly pulled this topic out of the political realm... and relegated it to the religious area..."

If a forum discussion was moved from one forum to another that was done by GasBuddy company staff, since members don't have that kind of control over the forum contents.

Other than that, it's as Byte_Doctor explained; Gas_Buddy is a member like you and me, and does not represent the GasBuddy Organization, who's staff all post under individual member names with the added "Moderator" designation and a red bus icon next to their name... and as noted before they are absent in a majority of forum discussions, sometimes too absent, and generally don't take part in about 95% of the forum discussions.

TimEum, with all due respect is it possible that you are actually more upset at the responses you received to one or another of your forum discussions, and this weighs more on your decision to stop participating than the choice of car icons? Because frankly I don't see the point in being so unhappy with car icons, yet staying and investing yet more time until you amass 3,000,000 points but then throwing away all those years of invested time.
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 3:09:47 PM

OK, I think I see what's happening.

First, the member Gas_Buddy is not a representative of GasBuddy.com or its parent company. He is just another member, like you and me, so his statements ridiculing your ideas are just his personal opinions. Yes, it is unfortunate that GasBuddy.com allowed that member to have that name since it does upon occasion cause confusion, but that's the extent of GasBuddy.com's fault in this issue.

Second, the daily topics are not picked by GasBuddy.com but rather are picked by how the membership votes for them - you'll see other topics here decrying the ability of cliques to vote up topics and get them on the front page in preference to other topics. So again , other than GasBuddy.com failing to control the abuse of the voting system, they aren't at fault in the topics that are showcased.
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TimEum
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 2:50:24 PM

Consider that the idea proffered is that the site would be improved if larger icons were used for larger points and that the icons were also adjusted so that smaller icons were used for smaller points -- so there would be a consistent correlation.

A good customer oriented response would be to recognize that the proposal made sense and that perhaps Gas Buddy would implement it. If it couldn't be done right away because Gas Buddy already had a list of improvements (i.e. more important) that they were currently working on (he could have named one or two) and that would have been a great response.

Instead Gas Buddy ridiculed the proposal, picking at the words (like "tragedy") instead of addressing the topic.

It is not the first time Gas Buddy has acted in a biased, non-customer oriented way.

I hosted a topic on "How can those with Christian beliefs support Democrat policies that work against Christians". It was clearly a politically oriented topic about supporting Democrats or not -- about Christians aligning themselves politically with those who would support and not suppress religious freedom. Yet Gas Buddy forcibly pulled this topic out of the political realm (where it was for over a month one of most active topics) and relegated it to the religious area thus suppressing the topic. This was not a topic to discuss whether you should be a Christian or not -- it was a political topic about which party a Christian should support -- yet Gas Buddy showed bias against Christians and conservatives by pulling the topic out of the political area.

Gas Buddy also "showcases" five daily topics. Have you noticed what topics Gas Buddy picks. Have you also noticed that Gas Buddy tends to pick topics that favor leftist liberal viewpoints?

Ridiculing this topic on something as simple as realigning the icons to a more orderly progression was the last straw for me supporting this site. I will get my 3 million, get the big limosine and then only check in from time to time.
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 8:08:59 AM

Exactly, scoutmaster - as well, I'd like to know where TimEum gets the impression that GasBuddy "tends to ridicule ideas that to [him] seemed legitimate. "

I can't recall a single instance where a GasBuddy representative has ridiculed any idea proposed here in the forums. Rather, they tend to say little, if anything, about the ideas here.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 7:15:35 AM

"GasBuddy like the IRS also seems to denigrate opinions that support Christians and conservatives."

I really wanna know how you came to this conclusion, TimEum.
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TimEum
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 1:22:18 AM

It's the attitude and service -- not just the icon size.

GasBuddy has consistently been "too busy" to consider valid ideas and tends to ridicule ideas that to me seemed legitimate.

GasBuddy like the IRS also seems to denigrate opinions that support Christians and conservatives.

Instead of giving good customer service -- GasBuddy instead, cannot even acknowlege that having bigger icons for bigger points is a good idea -- they do just the opposite.

Waze only has 5 icons but they do show a logical progression. Waze is also tied into GPS Navigation as well as social media.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2014 2:07:34 AM

What's interesting about Waze is the icons, emoticon or cartoonists as they are, are all pretty much the same size. They're pretty much like the heads of the old troll dolls (excerpt cartoonish). They don't seem to increase in size or get bigger as you increase your point standing and they certainly don't seem to be something to leave Gas Buddy for. But then I'm obviously paying more attention to the numerical designation than the icon designation.
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MadFueler
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Message Posted: Jul 7, 2014 5:29:39 AM

I think everyone has their own individual "druthers" when it comes to points icons - but other than telling the rookies apart from the veterans at a glance, I can't say 'which one's which' matters in the final analysis IMO.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2014 5:07:40 PM

See ya TimFum. Thanks for posting while you were a member. Enjoy Waze. I hope you get the type of avatars you want.
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TigerRose
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2014 12:16:44 PM

Not looking forward myself, to losing my limousine
when I earn 3.5 million points.

Agree, it would be nice to have a different icon
than currently in use for those at that distinction.

A Semi-Tractor with trailer attached could also
be nice. This way, save a double tandem for
future updates.

Or at least have something distinctively different,
like a tow truck pulling a vehicle.

Thanks, Gas Buddy, for all the updates you have
made to this site so far. It really IS a fun website,
& I look forward to posting on it, every day.


[Edited by: TigerRose at 7/6/2014 12:23:58 PM EST]
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2014 10:38:37 PM

"By the way, I am now a Waze user and will probably switch more to that and report gas prices there if Gas Buddy continues to be obstinate in this issue."

You're going to stop using Gas Buddy, stop posting prices on Gas Buddy if Gas Buddy continues to not change it's vehicles/icons to indicate a bigger vehicle for 3.25 point members than it has for 3 million point members? That's the sole reason you would leave Gas Buddy, and it's a requirement for Gas buddy to do in order to convince you to change your mind and continue to let Gas Buddy benefit from your participation?

Just trying to understand the severity and importance of the issue. I guess, from what I read, I answered my own questions.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2014 9:16:25 PM

Tim: Since when does "It simply makes sense...." become the defining issue around here? :-) Seeing as how you have nicely pegged the objections, I can tell you have your head screwed on right.*

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*Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2014 6:39:24 PM

The biggest objection from my perspective is that this would take away from the time the developers have for fixing actual, real problems with GasBuddy. Other than that, I couldn't care less one way or the other. Big car, little car, short car, long car, red car, blue car, I don't care and I suspect most people who have reached the point where it would matter are of much the same opinion, as evidenced by the other responses.
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TimEum
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2014 4:54:57 PM

Note the arguments against having icons in which size correlates to points --

--- state that complaining about it is useless

--- pick at the words used (like "tragedy") instead of dealing with the idea

--- state that compared to life, wanting bigger is silly

You all avoided the actual topic.

Should the Gas Buddy icons be changed so that big vehicles represent big points while small vehicles represent smaller point totals.

You all should give real reasons why this is not practical or in your opinion does not make sense or some other actual reason.

I will state again :

It simply makes sense that the icons size correlate with the points the icon represents.

Not doing so is like giving Super Bowl winners a small trophy instead of a big one.

By the way, I am now a Waze user and will probably switch more to that and report gas prices there if Gas Buddy continues to be obstinate in this issue.
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2014 7:29:43 PM

With more points to be earned starting on Monday, TimE, looks like you'll reach that 3.25 million mark sooner than planned.

Are you still quitting gb because of the car icon?
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2014 5:54:11 PM

It's not the size of your icon, but how you use it (or something like that).

I want a wheel barrow.
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buckeyecountry
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2014 10:23:02 AM

I like convertibles :-)
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2014 8:01:10 AM

OK if I can't be the piece of glass I want to be the bottle cap!
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2014 7:12:27 AM

Amazing.

At one time, the convertible was the highest icon one could get. I didn't hear you crying about it being a "tragedy" then.

I'd like to know what you might call a life event where a 23 year old person dies in a house fire and is so horribly burned that the person is unidentifiable. What descriptive word do you use for that? Tragedy? No, that's what describes a stupid car icon.
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2014 6:33:37 AM


Right... some guys are fixated with comparing the size of their umm... "icon"... LOL.

"We get no other satisfaction."

I believe the regulars who stay on here are motivated by and get satisfaction from posting price updates to help the GB community find the lowest gas prices more than they are by acquiring points and bigger icons.

"Take that away and Gas Buddy is no better than other internet gas price reporting services."

I recently looked at some other gas price reporting websites to see what info they had for the Los Angeles area. Setting aside the other site's features for a moment, the prices were woefully out of date, sometimes to the point of being abandoned yet were still displayed as if they would do anyone any good. One site showed several gas stations that I personally know have been closed for months or years, or have changed brands long ago. Based on my limited web comparison GB has them beat by miles.

"I can do other things than drive a little extra..."

I believe most members don't drive extra or out of their way but just pick up prices as they can along their normal travels.

While I find nothing wrong with your request for an icon change, I must say, you stuck it out, contributed and put up with the shortcomings of this website for 8 years already, yet you would quit after all this time because of some stupid little icon?
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TimEum
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2014 2:07:54 AM

It is too bad that the opinions expressed support leaving the icons as is and that it is not a tragedy that you are penalized with a smaller icon when you pass 3.25 million points.

Yes, I will quit "working" for Gas Buddy after reaching 3 million points.

The reason to consistently contribute and gain points is simple pride. Pride that you have a large number that is validated by the size of the icon by your name. We get no other satisfaction. Take that away and Gas Buddy is no better than other internet gas price reporting services. I can do other things than drive a little extra and spend time reporting prices.
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2014 1:11:50 PM

Holy cow.

Tragedy? My brother being killed when he was 23 years old was a tragedy.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 11:39:48 PM

This siggestion has been added to the Suggestion Tracking List as a new topic on an existing subject.

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[Edited by: CampKohler at 1/13/2014 11:42:52 PM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 5:49:36 PM

I still want to be the piece of glass.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 3:19:37 PM

Assuming that the post isn't tongue-in-cheek, it's a "tragedy" that the next points level is a smaller car? A "tragedy"?

And, granted it might be more consistent to have larger icons representing larger points totals, you really think that a smaller icon is a slap in the face? And you would really quit reporting in Gas Buddy because of a small points icon?

I guess I just don't put the same emphasis on the points icon that others do, especially because (in my opinion) fewer people notice or can differentiate the icons than can interpret the numerical points indicated adjacent to the icon.
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 3:16:48 PM

A very similar active topic is just a few below this one. Perhaps you can give some of those responses a look.

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