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DoctorV

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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2013 11:14:48 PM

The current gas price charts display gas prices over a selected time period, ending at the current date. The user has the option to select different cities or states to compare - a very nice feature. I would like to see a price chart for a city or state where the base timeline is one calendar year, and the prices for various years could be compared; e.g. plotting the Jan-Dec prices for Detroit from 2013, 2012, 2011 all on the same timeline. Thanks!
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2013 3:51:05 PM

Scrapheap, just use the "Request Special Data" link. With the raw data you can slice and dice it many different ways.
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2013 12:48:31 PM

Right Scrapheap, five years of data is about $500 and that's a lot for prices that aren't collected in any scientific way. Besides, the data is there already, I'm just asking for a different way of viewing it - one that would provide more insight into trends and therefore be more useful. I don't care if gas was $1 or $3 on the third weekend in June years in the past. I want to see how and when it changes on that weekend, or any other time of the year, and the horizontal scale of the current chart compresses the data too much for it to be any relevance.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2013 12:04:22 PM

I have to correct my last post.

It doesn't look like the order form on the site maxstar suggested works to too good. I thought I specified 13 years of data but it kept defaulting back to 1 day. The cost is a prohibitive $1200.

Jeez I hate this silly 5 minute edit window.

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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2013 12:03:03 PM

DocV,

You can see the information you request. Maybe not in the format or as "clear" or detailed as you like, but it is available.

As Scrapheap said, since you are willing to pay, use Maxstar's link to buy the data you want.

Your suggestion was made.
Your suggestion will eventually cataloged by CK since he puts anything and everything regardless of quality of the suggestion on his list.

If TPTB at GBO make this change based on your suggestion, that is great, but I seriously would not be holding my breath for them to add more data manipulation and charting when they sell the data for profit. The current chart is out there as a courtesy.

I find your attitude as obstreperous as Scoutmaster and Byte and Scrap are just feeding what they complain about. It starts a vicious circle that gets old.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2013 11:54:17 AM

DoctorV - If you are willing to pay, what is wrong with the link maxstar provided? I'm not particularly interested in the data and don't know what form the data comes in, but if you can get a tabular format, you could plot the data yourself in a spreadsheet. It only costs 25 cents to get the data.

BTW, I suggest you stop wasting your time with scoutmaster. He has to argue and get the last word. Thats his thing.

[Edited by: Scrapheap at 12/30/2013 11:54:41 AM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2013 10:57:36 AM

Wanna be bouncer???? Nah! No bouncer here. Just trying to show that what you are suggesting is available even though CampKohler has added this suggestion to his garbage can list."BTW, I'd be more than willing to make this a pay for use site."

Then shell over your donation. I'm sure they will accept it! And if you are willing to pay for this site then you should be willing to pay for the extra service since this is a free site.

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 12/30/2013 10:59:33 AM EST]
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2013 10:52:34 AM

Oh, the wanna be bouncer is back. Why is there any place for suggestions if the only answer is "pay"? BTW, I'd be more than willing to make this a pay for use site.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2013 10:35:30 AM

I know what you want and what you get for free should suffice. If you want more, fork over the change.

Do prices go up over MLK weekend every year? Let me look. Based on the free charts available when I look over the last 4 years is looks like prices start to rise during that weekend. And I'm looking at the chart for Pittsburgh which is my local area.
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2013 10:06:25 AM

scoutmaster "Why not?"

Because you can't. You can view several years in linear fashion, but that doesn't compare two or more years together.

Go make a chart using the one year time frame and three different locations. Now, instead of the the red, blue, and green lines being three different cities, imagine them being three different years, like 2007, 2010, & 2013. And the horizontal axis runs from Jan 1 - Dec 31. That way you can compare price trends throughout the year: doors the price in my area always decrease in January? Does it always go up for MLK weekend? Is this year's price trend following last year's, and how closely? You can't get that detailed comparison with the current chart, especially for longer time periods. The current chart is good for comparing locations but I'm more interested in what my local price is likely to do.

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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2013 10:09:46 PM

scoutmaster wrote "Please share with us Byte_Doctor. What word would you have chosen?"

Actually, there are many words that would fit. And no, I'm not going to post any of them in the forum - I suspect most folks who have spent any time reading SAGBI or TBTU can fill in the blank quite easily without any help from me.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2013 7:41:26 PM

I can see a location and see >10 years for that location. You can always take that data and put it in your own chart in whatever format you want...as long as you don't use it outside the terms of the site and copy-write law.

And CK's list is just that ---CK's list of anything anyone throws at the wall. It has little meaning in the grand scheme of things as he is NOT part of GBO (nor is member Gas_Buddy) and his list is an unofficial list of everything and anything and does not mean that being on the list relates to any probability that GBO will implement such idea.

[Edited by: TxJeans at 12/29/2013 7:43:00 PM EST]
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2013 7:33:39 PM

scoutmaster "Why not?"

You can.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2013 7:22:36 PM

" I just can't compare year to year for a location. I can compare city to city for a time period, but not time period to time period for a specific location."

Why not?
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2013 5:36:17 PM

Okay, that's what I was thinking of - CK's list.

TxJeans, I know several years of data are available, I just can't compare year to year for a location. I can compare city to city for a time period, but not time period to time period for a specific location.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 9:59:23 PM

DoctorV
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"...is there someone in charge who could add this to the suggestion list?"

Actually, there is someone in charge who could add this to the suggestion list. You are the one adding "this" to the suggestion list; that's the purpose of this discussion category. Whether the programmers implement or do not implement your suggestion is another issue. Just because a suggestion is made doesn't mean that it will be acted on the way you want.

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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 8:38:10 PM

CK will be along to put it on his "STL" (Suggestion Tracking List" wikispaces page. It is just that - CK's list of anything thrown at the wall. The PTB at GB may or may not look at that list when deciding to make changes. But, you can see several years data as it currently exists.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 6:51:18 PM

Yeah it does exist. You just can't see it.

What years and what areas do you want the graph to include?
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 6:09:04 PM

It doesn't exist, but that's okay if you don't understand.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 6:03:19 PM

I have no trouble wrapping my head around this suggestion but considering what you are asking for already exists, there is nothing to wrap my head around.
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 5:42:58 PM

I know from reading plenty of other ideas that it's difficult for you to wrap your head around what's being suggested. Meanwhile, is there someone in charge who could add this to the suggestion list?
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 5:20:19 PM

Well, DoctorV, what you are asking for is already available. You just need to be able to understand it.

Please share with us Byte_Doctor. What word would you have chosen?
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 1:47:39 PM

DoctorV, "gatekeeper" isn't the word I'd have chosen but he sure is "something"...
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 1:26:25 PM

Tx Jeans gets it. Scoutmaster, seems you have a hard time understanding anyone's suggestion, or if you do, you see any value in it. Are you the gatekeeper?
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 11:54:58 AM

The site makes money from selling data. They provide us a basic price chart, beyond that, if you want more, you get to pay more.
Simple.
Now, are there changes to the current chart that might be nice? Of course. With the range of pricing it would be nice to have larger chart so the data looked at over time is not as compressed vertically due to limitations of the vertical size of the chart and the spread between low and high values.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 8:30:39 AM

DoctorV,

You have been a member for over 5 years and it seems you don't know the lay of the land but you love to complain i.e. not knowing Twin Cities = Minneapolis/St Paul.

The charts you are referring to do exactly what you want them to do and they are free.

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 12/28/2013 8:30:07 AM EST]
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 12:16:30 AM

Right, so now put it in a form where you can more easily see how the current trend is following or not following the area's historical trend. The data is already being provided, just rearrange it.
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 12:06:21 AM

"Then why is there any chart at all?"
It provides some basic trending information on pricing for which there is no charge.
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2013 9:13:23 PM

Then why is there any chart at all? And some of us don't come here to find cheap gas.
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2013 8:54:59 PM

The vast majority of members come here to find cheap gas when they need to buy some. Other than a small handful of members who are curious about historical prices, I am not clear on what the purpose chart would be.

[Edited by: maxstar at 12/27/2013 8:54:39 PM EST]
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2013 7:09:10 PM

It will show variations in price trend for a location on a yearly basis.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2013 7:03:27 PM

And what purpose will this serve?
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2013 5:41:31 PM

Thanks. I'm not looking for data that detailed, just a simple line chart like the current gas price chart.
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2013 11:26:02 PM

There is a charge but you might be able to get that chart or the data for the chart by following the link below.

https://www.gaspricedata.com/
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