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Retired-Coastie

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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 9:12:59 AM

Are non active members and their profiles eventually deleted from the system like other forums I've been on? If not I think that would be a good suggestion to forward up the line.

If a member has not had any points earning activity for say six months then suspend their account, and forward an email to them. After nine months delete their account and all posts.
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2013 11:22:25 AM

Some have suggested that banned members are placed in "limbo" for legal reasons.
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Retired-Coastie
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2013 9:01:06 AM

So how about the member that has been banded by GB? Why keep there points stats hanging out there? People tend to be a bit harsh at times. It's no wonder more ideas aren't posted and even less are enacted.
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Retired-Coastie
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2013 9:19:24 AM

I thank y'all for the input, but remember that my original post was of two parts, a question and a suggestion.
I am new to the GB forum, and sometime new people have new ideas that help, and most times measures are already in place to handle said situation.

NightBoy; one most always be flexible, the only constant is change. Just like the news blogs aren't always about gas prices, but of energy and such.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2013 5:11:46 AM

Yeah you guys are correct. The OP did state that.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2013 10:27:59 PM

Scoutmaster:

The original post read: "After nine months delete their account and all posts."

That pretty much seems like was was suggested. It didn't seem to say "Remove the non-active member's screen name but keep everything think else."

Retired-Coastie:

"If the member knows they are being deployed then contact GasBuddy to suspend their account until they return. But the people deployed oversees could once or twice during their deployment simply check in to maintain their account standing, also."

I won't disagree that it would be good if the member requested Gas Buddy hold their account in abeyance but based on experience, personal and working with members of the State Department, DoD, and the individual services, I'm not sure that I would put "Let Gas Buddy know I'm being deployed..." would be very high on my pre-departure checklist, nor would checking in during my deployment be up there. I'm certain that many if not most members would (in fact) check in, but I don't see it needing to be a requirement. And, believe it or not, for some military and State personnel, while it may not be "days when I deployed for seven months without internet", you might be surprised at the number of deployed personnel that have very limited internet or easy mobile access. Speaking from experience, without going into details, my most recent activity was in an area for which we could call the United States for $8 a minute using local facilities; Gas Buddy would be the least of my concerns. And yes, that's an isolated situation/locale/etc, the point being that even if access is available, there's often other things to be concerned with than "logging in periodically".

But, I appreciate the moderators' response.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2013 7:24:28 PM

Actually Scoutmaster, the OP said this:
"After nine months delete their account and all posts."
-- all posts.

Again, I think the system that Don describes sounds like a very fair system...a good compromise between keeping all of these "inactives" and yet allowing someone to come back and if soon enough, still keep their screen name, if not, chose new one or modify the old one to make it "unique".
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2013 11:24:42 AM

Gas_Buddy,

No one is suggesting that all the posts from an inactive member be deleted. The suggestion was to have the ID deleted after a time of inactivity and it appears from Don's response this is already happening.
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NightBoy
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2013 10:23:30 AM

Disagree...like others mentioned the original purpose of the site is about gas prices, not points...back in 2005 I was in a serious accident (not my fault) and that was before I had a smart phone...phones were not too smart then anyway...I did not have access to the internet for well over 6-months, almost a year...it was over a year before I started posting prices again and did receive "do you want to keep your account" email from GasBuddy of which was buried among literally over a thousand emails before the end of the year...luckily I was able to log into my account in time.

Based on what DON mentioned, perhaps my account was inactive and when I logged in it reactivated it. I know I had the same email when I moved from Santee to San Diego 10+ years ago.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2013 6:38:27 AM

Thanks Don. It's nice to know there is something in place to handle inactive members.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 6:12:32 PM

Thank you Don for the explanation of how you handle the old screen names.

That sounds like a nice system to allow folks that have "timed out" to come back w/out locking up screen names forever.

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Don
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 5:28:52 PM

Inactive usernames are eventually automatically assigned a special prefix, which allows for the original username to be registered by someone else, the inactive username is still stored for record keeping. This process takes a couple years of inactivity (there are people who do not use the site for several months at a time but do return regularly).

We use this kind of system mainly because it's a frequent occurrence for someone to email the site saying "I used to have an account with you guys...", we can see by their registered email address that they did have an account registered. If they're intending to use their account more often, and the original username is still available for use, the prefix is dropped and the username is changed back.

If the username was since registered by someone else, we let them know that their account was inactive and the username was made available to be registered by newer members. When that happens we can reactivate the account with a new username of their choosing.

-Don


[Edited by: Don at 9/10/2013 5:30:22 PM EST]
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 2:06:12 PM

I agree with Gas_Buddy on this. No benefits have really been identified, other than the rather limited issue of getting the screen name you want. No real detriments of letting these people keep their accounts have been identified. I see know reason why someone who has been inactive for any length of time and wants to start up again should not pick up where they left off.

This topic has been raised before and gone nowhere. I expect it to do the same this time.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 1:35:28 PM

scoutmaster:

"Well, there is nothing to stop those people from starting new accounts when they get back stateside. They really have no use for this site while they are not in the USA or Canada."

Granted they may not have day-to-day use for the website or gas price posting, that doesn't mean that they won't continue to be regular participants after their return (I speak from experience), regardless of when their scheduled (or unscheduled) return is. And, as it's not as if their inactivity is a detriment to website, there's no reason that these members should lose any points accumulated and start over on the leader boards.

As for "delete...all posts", just because a member is no longer active doesn't seem like a reason to delete all posts they've made. Many of the comments and posts by non-active members are still add value to the discussions, even if the posts are "dated".

While I understand the original post, I just don't see any particular value in removing the non-active members, regardless of the reason for non-activity. They're not in the way of anything, and they're not taking away from any chances to win the weekly drawing. The worst that happens with non-removal of inactive members is it might take an extra effort to find an acceptable screen name (while I, again, speak from experience), but that's no different than trying to find a screen name that isn't used by another active member. And, non-active members are much less an intrusion than are those that post inane comments of "okay", "agree", "interesting" and "hmmm", or those who post the one word or one number or one widget responses in multiple threads, and surely less of an intrusion than those who have 3 or 4 million message post and are "active member contributors".

Sorry, just me but I don't think there should be a blanket rule if for no reason other than inactive members aren't in the way of anything.

I accept that many members before me have provided a lot of input to this website and set standards for me to reach. I don't have any problem with their still being listed.
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Retired-Coastie
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 1:08:11 PM

Here is a member that fits my case and point to a T - 130milesaday.

If the member knows they are being deployed then contact GasBuddy to suspend their account until they return. But the people deployed oversees could once or twice during their deployment simply check in to maintain their account standing, also.

It's not like the days when I deployed for seven months without internet. Many ship even have internet these days.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 12:31:54 PM

Well, there is nothing to stop those people from starting new accounts when they get back stateside. They really have no use for this site while they are not in the USA or Canada.

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 9/10/2013 12:32:39 PM EST]
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 11:32:01 AM

This suggestion has been added to the Suggestion Tracking List as a new subject.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 10:55:12 AM

I can see both sides. As Scrapheap indicates, there could be unintended consequences of deleting accounts of individuals assigned overseas for the service of our country. At what point might it make sense, if at all? 3, 6 or 12 months is definitely too soon.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 10:24:25 AM

If people created accounts and did nothing with them afterward, I wouldn't have a problem with this. Beyond that, I do not care for this idea. Would you delete the accounts of service members or State Department employees deployed overseas? Is this really a good rational to delete the account of Minder who was the first person to 2,500,000 points and decided to stop there?
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 9:55:06 AM

Active is earning points and you don't have to post prices to earn points.

The main purpose of this site is to help others find the best vehicle fuel prices. The forums and other parts of this site are secondary.

I would agree that if someone doesn't earn points for six (6) months their accounts should be marked inactive and once they are inactive for three (3) months, their account should be deleted.
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