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v5fk05

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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 10:06:15 AM

Instead of simply just "gasoline," why not include natural gas, electric charging rates, and even hydrogen fuel cell costs.

Well the infrastructure isn't there yet, but it would make GasBuddy.com leaps and bounds ahead of any other! It would also help ease the minds of those who are considering purchasing an alternative fuel vehicle. If we let the government do things, it would take forever for anything feasible to happen. Most likely, they would tell you to call them directly for pricing while handing you a list of all the alternative fuel locations.

Just a thought...
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Don
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2013 4:11:23 PM

"This site can still provide that information. It can be listed in the station features and/or the comments."

Right, as an example there's no price input available for E-85 but if you look at the MSL options, you'll find a station feature for "Ethanol E-85", checking this off will include an option for E-85 as an available feature on station details pages, even though we do no track E-85 prices. Countless users have provided prices for E-85 in the comments of their price reporting where it is available.

All things considered Gas_Buddy did hit the nail on the head with his answer, as well. The average GasBuddy user would not come to a user driven gas price website to find EV charging rates or hydrogen fuel cell costs.

Having this info included on the site could be beneficial in it's own respects, but that kind of information is not priority for the service we provide.

When it comes to solely recognizing gasoline prices, things would get complicated/challenging if we took after suggestions to provide all kinds of ethanol blends and octane ratings for the price input pages on the sites and apps as well.

-Don
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2013 1:52:03 PM

kwzh wrote:
"My guess is that people who are considering such a purchase will want to know whether the fuel is sold at local stations, and this site can provide that information."

If I was considering purchasing an alternative fuel vehicle, my decision making tree would not include whether the fuel is listed on a member-price posting website. We already have numerous complaints about false price posting and posting for fuels not available; I can easily see problems with posting of multiple "fuels" such as electric charging rates.

If anything, forgetting that including any and all alternative fuels (including electricity) would bloat the website for the average user - and despite the availability of alternative fuel vehicle, the average vehicle owner drives - and will continue to driver for the foreseeable future - gasoline and diesel vehicles. I can't see Gas Buddy being any and everything for any and everyone. Not without making the website and the mobile apps more technical and probably less user friendly than it is. (I note, for example, in a different discussion, people suggesting that there be different size icons/graphics and different colors depending on how recent the price was posted). Adding a virtually unlimited amount of "fuels" would further complicate the ease of use of the website (my words now) of the average member and the majority of members of Gas Buddy.

That said, if I was making my vehicle decision based on availability of fuel, I would be a lot less dependent on a member price-posting website than be contacting the dealership selling the alternative vehicle. It's highly unlikely that the dealership is selling vehicles isn't knowledgeable about where the vehicles can be fueled. Granted, that won't necessarily make pricing available, but it's a better start than being dependent on an isolated few members of Gas Buddy that might follow - and hopefully continually and accurately post - prices of alternative fuels.

In the case of the suggestion - as written - more isn't necessarily better; it would just be bloating of the website and apps. In my opinion.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2013 6:20:42 AM

This site can still provide that information. It can be listed in the station features and/or the comments.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2013 12:04:33 AM

Gas_Buddy writes,
> how would enabling price posting of alternative fuels "help ease the minds of those who are considering purchasing an alternative fuel vehicle"

My guess is that people who are considering such a purchase will want to know whether the fuel is sold at local stations, and this site can provide that information.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 1:56:38 PM

This suggestion has been added to the Suggestion Tracking List as new topics on an existing subject and a new subjects.

[Edited by: CampKohler at 9/3/2013 2:00:22 PM EST]
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 1:58:10 PM

First, variations of this suggestion have been posted and discussed (ad nauseum) in multiple threads on this website. Gas Buddy management has said repeatedly that, while they are considering changes that would enable posting of "alternative" fuels, the current emphasis is to serve the users of the primary used fuels, fuels which concurrently are used by an overwhelming majority of the members.

Just wondering, but how would enabling price posting of alternative fuels "help ease the minds of those who are considering purchasing an alternative fuel vehicle." Ar you suggesting that people considering purchasing alternative-fueled vehicles would base their decision on Gas Buddy having prices available? Or that the stress of deciding which vehicle to buy is more dependent on Gas Buddy than on the otherwise virtues or constraints/limitations/etc. of the vehicles themselves?

"If we let the government do things, it would take forever for anything feasible to happen."

I'm not sure I understand that. Are you saying that the government is the reason that there aren't alternative-fueled vehicles but that Gas Buddy would be the impetus to the quick integration of such vehicles into the market place?
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