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Disciple65

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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 3:38:28 PM

These alerts are too late. Every time I have gotten one, and go to fill up, the prices have already gone up. Received an alert email today at 12:20, went to fill up at 2:00, and the prices have already gone up. I didn’t think much of it the first time or two, but it has been this way every time.
Good thing I filled up the other car last night.
Maybe the name of the emails should be changed to “Gas Price Hike Notice”.
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blackimpala
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2013 5:25:54 PM

Yes, that would be a great idea; tired of being gouged.
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Toppers
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2013 10:36:39 PM

Works well...occasionally
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2013 9:31:39 PM

My bad. Wrong topic. Sorry!
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2013 9:02:21 AM

@scoutmaster...

Huh?
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2013 8:14:27 AM

Around here, it's been my observation that gas prices are more likely to spike on Monday or Tuesday rather than later in the week. Competition over the weekend seems to keep prices steady or falling.

When a typical $.25-$.45/gal. price spike does occur here, it seems to be driven largely by Speedway and its affiliates who purchase fuel from the same wholesaler. Other brands may or may not follow suit immediately, but generally tend to do so within the ensuing 24 hour period.

The price alerts are most effective when they can be delivered in a timely manner permitting members a few hours to locate and buy the cheapest gas before all stations have increased prices. If you're buying for multiple vehicles or a fleet the savings are significant; however, even members who only buy fuel for one vehicle can benefit over time.

RG

P.S. Prices start falling $.02-$.05 a day for the next week or ten days in my area as stations compete for our business by offering the lowest price.

[Edited by: RichWLIN at 8/4/2013 8:19:29 AM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2013 6:23:28 AM

That's interesting since the 5th poll this year indicated only about 20% have dual pricing.

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 8/4/2013 6:24:30 AM EST]
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2013 3:33:00 AM

beachguy46, regarding the Thursday price change, see FAQ #46.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2013 9:30:54 PM

" Additionally, most gas stations change their prices on Thursday and hold the price for one week. There are many exceptions to the price change rule with independents reacting swiftly to any price changes."

I'm not sure where the "Thursday change day" came from but from my experience in the Washington metro area (D.C., Maryland, northern Virginia) and the northern Florida area over the past 10 or so years, there is no "most gas stations change on..." day; there are some exceptions to the rule, but for most locales prices are subject to and in fact do change on any or all days of the week. If anything, along the southern Georgia/northern Florida I've noticed that Mondays are frequently a price change day.

But that's just my experience over the several years of price fluctuation.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2013 12:19:16 AM

I got another timely alert this morning. Many stations in the area jumped 35 cents this afternoon.

RG
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 8:15:21 PM

Don, since I got back on the site a bit more than a year ago, I have never received an alert in the Tampa area. Is this correct?
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Don
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 1:37:39 PM

TxJeans,

Price hike alerts are only sent out when there is enough user submitted data to feel confident that a price hike will happen. It doesn't really much matter which area is experiencing the hike, but some areas are more volatile than others and will see more frequent alerts.

Since all of our price information is generously provided by volunteer spotters, we have no control over how many prices are being displayed in each area, which can be a problem for smaller areas that being affected by price hikes.

An area that is smaller and sees much less update activity than a larger metro area is a lot less likely to see a price hike alert. ie. if a one station town was last updated 5 days ago for $3.50/Gal and was recently updated for $4.25/Gal, without numerous users updating several stations for this same price, you'll probably get an "are you sure" warning or the price will be flagged automatically for review.

We try to account for price hikes occurring in most regions per site though, if possible (with enough user collected data).

-Don
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jsoko
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2013 8:33:27 AM

If there is a Meijer in your area, it may be beneficial for you to sign up for a text or phone alert that tells you the time when their prices are rising. Other stations are either already going up or will follow.
http://help.meijer.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/100/~/how-can-i-subscribe-to-or-opt-out-of-gas-alerts%3F
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2013 7:49:49 PM

Hi Don - can you confirm if the price alerts are only in certain areas/sites and not available for all areas?
Thanks for your response to the original poster explaining a bit about how it works!
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Don
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2013 3:46:59 PM

Hi Disciple65,

When it comes to the price hike alert emails, these messages are only sent out to active users, and when it comes to that system compiling who's going to get the alerts it sorts out members who will receive the price hike alert based on a member's degree of activity.

So, if there are many other users on the same site as you who update prices more often, they will get the e-mail ahead of you.

When I'm looking at how many prices your username posts, it looks like there's a handful of prices posted every week/every few weeks. This would put you further down in the price hike alert system when someone who reports prices daily.

Someone who doesn't report prices at all for a certain amount of time will eventually just stop getting the alerts.

With this being said, if you know of any current prices, please report them for everyone in your area to see. Thanks for your help!

We do also send out price alerts through Twitter or Facebook outlining areas that should see a price increase.

-Don
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SpiderTash
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2013 8:22:42 AM

I e-mailed them once about this, because I have NEVER recieved a Gas Price Hike Alert, and it has been turned on since the day I installed the app. They said it is working fine and was for things other than their page and app....
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 5:07:51 PM

When the alerts first started, they were timely and helpful.

The last 2 or 3 that I rec'd, including one about a week ago, arrived in the evening, well after the spike alert thread in our local forum (and the Ohio forum's Greedway gas spike thread) had been bumped. Most prices were up by the time the warning was issued. The site looks quite foolish calling something an "alert" when it comes out so long after it is possible to act on it.

Though certainly less sexy than Doc Brown's Flux Capacitor, The Gas Game's " Spike Line" page does more than a decent job of letting you know when a spike is likely in a $peedway state. Though it's not nearly as readable as the site's warning, it's timely, which I'll always take over clarity when clarity costs me money.

[Edited by: SUVFan at 7/17/2013 5:08:12 PM EST]
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2013 7:31:12 AM

This has been discussed to some extent here.

I had a similar complaint with the alerts in my area of Indiana (not too distant from Gary) until recently this year when I started getting some of them somewhat quicker. Indeed, last year the email alerts were often arriving well after the prices had already gone up and, in many cases, after the increases had already been reported by fellow GB members.

I understand your frustration. In our area of the country, price increases of $.25-$.40 are routine, and generally occur as frequently as every 10-20 days; sometimes more often. Over time, buying when the prices are lowest will save more than "a few cents". Being alerted in advance of a price hike can be advantageous. The GB alerts still aren't perfect by any means, and I still get some of them after the fact but this has improved lately.

Incidentally, I also understand your annoyance with wordy replies that filibuster in defense of any perceived problems or complaints without offering much else.

I would continue to subscribe to the alerts, and maybe even take steps to increase the frequency that your email program checks for new messages as one possible solution.

RG

[Edited by: RichWLIN at 7/17/2013 7:33:17 AM EST]
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 8:22:52 PM

This suggestion has been added to the Suggestion Tracking List as a new subject.

If anyone could figure out how to predict prices more than "36.5 hours" in the future, they should quit their day job and start day trading or maybe take a trip to 'Vegas. While this is a suggestion I am sure everyone would like to see implemented, I see no hope for it until the arrival of the invention of the flux capacitor.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 7:11:25 AM

Pffttt! I have been subscribed for ages and never got an alert. Apparently they are only in some areas and I imagine that just how fast the prices rise after an alert varies throughout the alert area.

When prices start going up around me, there tend to be some benchmark leaders (though the pattern does change it up periodically).
What the indicators, watch your favorites list and use the site in conjunction with using the APP when out and about. There tend to be some "areas" within the area that go up faster than others

I suggest you un-subscribe as I doubt no one could ever meet your needs in adequately giving you enough notice.

Maybe you need to spend some money on an expensive crystal ball...
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 12:22:38 AM

I guess I could have written a short funny reply but I assumed you were making a serious comment and deserved a serious response.

That said, I would unsubscribe if I were you. The moderators said, in this case, a hike could come in a day and a half, which should normally give you sufficient notice about a price hike; if you unsubscribe you get no notice.
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Disciple65
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 9:46:12 PM

GB,

Wow, there was no need for such a lengthy, all-too-serious reply.

Maybe I didn’t pull it off very well, but the only point I meant to make is that every time I have received an alert, it has been too late to benefit from it, as the prices have gone up everywhere in the vicinity. This makes the alert of no use.

I’ll simply unsubscribe from the alerts.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 8:04:45 PM

I doubt that Gas Buddy is waiting until the last possible moment to notify members that there may be a price increase. The best that can be done is you get an alert, a notice, or a warning (we're talking semantics); it's up to you to take advantage of the alert (or notice, or warning). As for taking advantage of the price increase e-mail, Gas Buddy didn't say it was immediate; Gas Buddy noted that it might happen over the next day and a half.

On a serious note, the worst that happens, even if prices go up and you "can't leave and fill up", not all gas stations will (always) immediately jump; and even if you are delayed in rushing out and getting gas this time (just as you might be if the e-mail arrived in the middle of the night), the probable worst that would happen is you buy a half tank or so of gas (maybe 10 gallons or less) at a slightly higher price than if you were able to rush out. Unless you're buying everything (everything else in addition to gas) at the absolute lowest price possible, a one time delay in getting some gas probably isn't going to be a wallet or budget buster, at least not in the manner the original post and the subsequent response seems to imply it will.

As for changing the e-mails to "Gas Price Hike Notice", do you really think that will make members feel better? Or dispel their concern because they weren't "notified" earlier that prices might go up? If you say yes, are you also suggesting that Gas Buddy changes the words "we suspect" to "it's possible..." in order to stop people from running out and filling up immediately?

I pretty much agree with Scrapheap; if you didn't wait any time at all, you might have saved a couple cents. But then you're not saying that all the gas prices in your area did, in fact, increase tremendously in price in the time between when you got the e-mail and when you could first get gas and you suffered a significant financial difference at the gas station.

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Disciple65
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 4:48:38 PM

Scrapheap, when I'm at work, I can't leave and fill up. Besides, this is the text from the Alert - "Warning Buddies, we suspect gasoline prices may be rising to 4.09 +/- 0.06 over the next 36.5 hours".

What good is an alert if it doesn't give you advance notice?

Don't get me wrong, the GB service and app is helpful and I appreciate having it. It's just the alerts have done me no good.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 4:24:50 PM

Maybe you would have gotten a lower price if you hadn't waited 1 hour and 40 minutes.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2013 4:01:07 PM

Pay attention to the prices and the indicators on the site. They are very accurate.
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