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CSF

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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:26:51 AM

PLEASE create a column for E-85 prices.

The lack of a column for such prices leaves E-85 users in the dark, and really irritates diesel users such as myself when we drive miles to what we believe is a station that sells diesel, only to find that a helpful or "helpful" person entered an E085 price into the diesel price column.

Thank you!!

[Edited by: CSF at 2/16/2013 11:27:32 AM EST]
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jimmy544
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Message Posted: May 30, 2013 10:20:59 PM

We also need to know if it is 100% gasoline or only E10 or E5...
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: May 29, 2013 5:05:48 AM

WEOH,

There is no E85 listing on the full site either. E85 is not common fuel throughout Gas Buddy land yet.
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WE0H
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Message Posted: May 29, 2013 1:35:10 AM

We need a E85 listing in the mobile app.
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Karyn2002
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Message Posted: May 17, 2013 5:33:22 PM

Regardless of whether or not people think E85 is "worth it," those who want it should be able to find it, and those who are looking for Diesel are clearly being harmed by those who list E-85 as Diesel. Having a separate category solves both problems.
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pilotmass
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Message Posted: May 10, 2013 8:50:50 AM

I'm ok with adding it, however don't do ask with diesel and list it as an option when none is sold.
Messes with perfectionist rating.
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timewalker
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Message Posted: May 8, 2013 12:10:04 PM

I want to see E-85 listed, and anyone posting the price for e-85 in the diesel slot is hurting anyone seeing that price and driving there to get diesel. It is just as wrong to update prices that are not posted. There is one person in my area that regularly posts prices for diesel at a station that does not carry diesel. I assume just to get the vicarious thrill of being "champ". They post every single price at every single station in town multiple times per day.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 10:49:39 PM

Mario, I think he is saying that were they sell E-85 but not diesel he puts the E-85 in the diesel field...and then adds in the comment section that it is the price for E-85. If the station has Diesel, he enters the Diesel price and in comments puts the price for E-85.

Regardless, we are back to the need for tying the grades of fuel to the MSL.
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 8:25:01 PM

RcJ2 ..... what?
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RcJ2
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Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 8:17:04 PM

I wholeheartedly agree. I typically put in the comment section that the price I put in is for E-85 if there is no diesel at the station. If there is diesel, I put in the comment section the price for E-85 so other users can know.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2013 7:56:53 AM

You are correct, kwzh. However, it should be listed in the MSL as a check box, not as a reportable grade of fuel.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 11:40:09 PM

"Not worth using" isn't the same as "Shouldn't be reported on the site", though.
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chuck81
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 11:52:10 AM

E-85 is not worth it. I tried and the mpg is way down, cost more to use than reg. No colum for e-85.
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joshou
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 4:15:32 AM



I agree as well.. could be one of the questions it asks you occasionally "does this station sell E-85?" and start adding the locations that have it

[Edited by: joshou at 3/29/2013 4:16:22 AM EST]
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bthor76
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2013 7:49:02 PM

What is E85?
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sarasotasingle
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 7:59:13 PM

I agree
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sarasotasingle
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 7:58:36 PM

I agree, also please fix the slowness of leaving posts
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OhioDJ1982
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 11:35:37 PM

I agree with this also. Since more and more stations are offering E-85 now in days.
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scrile
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 6:23:35 PM

I agree, need a E85 category for reporting.
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Iarrgh2
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 3:23:22 PM

I agree. I've gone out of my way twice to buy diesel, only to find that someone had poated E-85 prices in the diesel slot.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 3:14:42 PM

Maybe the powers that be should actually implement some of the suggestions that are made here and using the "What's New" link to announce the changes. Then such a list would probably have no reason to exist.
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CSF
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 10:27:49 AM

Thanks KWZH. I have to agree with "Gas_Buddy", though. It's definitely a mighty effort with a worthwhile cause, but one that is bound to confuse!

Maybe a certain poster should suggest that the moderators use it/try to comprehend it.

Thanks again.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 2:10:12 AM

CSF, Click here to learn about the suggestion tracking list.
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 9:17:14 PM

> CampKohler took it upon himself to create a site outside of Gas Buddy
> where all the suggestions are. It's somewhat a mess and not endorsed
> by Gas Buddy.

But it sure beats the daylights out of the suggestion tracking provided by Gas Buddy itself since there isn't any...
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 4:14:38 PM

CampKohler took it upon himself to create a site outside of Gas Buddy where all the suggestions are. It's somewhat a mess and not endorsed by Gas Buddy.
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CSF
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 10:31:38 AM

Wow! You guys kill me.

And, now I'm a slanderer! At least some of you are good for a laugh! :-)

Does anyone know the answer to the unanswered question I previously posted:

"This suggestion has been added to the Suggestion Tracking List as a new topic on an existing subject."

I've never seen such a list! What is the point of it, and who pays attention to it?

Thank you.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 6:22:05 AM

This seems to be more of a regional thing. There are very few in my area and most are Sheetz.
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Jayburt
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 5:15:21 AM

They really should have a column for it as many stations are carrying it
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 5:10:46 AM

So the answer is actually no, CSF. If the increment has been established (who does this?) at 10¢/10¢/10¢ you don't pull in you just post all three grades regardless if they are posted on the sign or not?

And regarding my comment about your not posting much, that's a fact not an insult.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 9:11:33 PM

Wow CSF - Did you even read my post?

You said:
"YES, seriously, I expect people to pull up to the pump when it's been established that a station does not post its prices in regular increments."

So, do you NOT expect people to pull up to the pump when it has NOT been established that a station does not post their prices in regular increments?

Seriously? Do you realize that 1) you are not required to post every grade and only the prices you can validate (from the sign or the pump) -- accurate prices for the grades you have prices for, not every price. Go back and read my post.

Pulling into every station you post is ridiculous waste of gas and time. Are you independently wealthy and bored that you have time to pull into every station to post? Or, do you only post when you are filling up and let everyone else carry the weight of keeping the rest of the stations updated.

You said:
"People are supposed to be posting ACTUAL prices, not suppositions, and not estimates."
Again you are putting words in my mouth. READ MY POST. I never said anything about posting other than ACTUAL/VALID prices.

Then you said:
"If you think that the lazy way is the way to go, then let's eliminate the mid-grade and premium prices, and everyone can just imagine what they might be. <rolls eyes>"

I consider that a slanderous post. Again READ MY POST before you call me lazy and inaccurate in my price posting.

Back to your OP - regarding E-85 prices. This has been suggested many times. The PTB will do so when they feel there is enough demand for E-85. The biggest problem is the kids with their APPS so concerned about the APP Awards that no one else sees that they want a "Pause" ability when they travel out of the country so they don't lose their "status" while gone. These are the types that are posting the wrong prices as they cheat to attain awards that mean nothing.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 7:02:50 PM

CSF wrote > After ALL those words, rumbleseat, it seems we agree! And the purpose of your post was therefore...??

The purpose of his post was to say that people should report what they see and only what they see. If they only see the price of regular from the road, that is what they should report. And they should get credit for doing so.

I get that you feel wronged but there is absolutely no chance whatsoever that your suggestion (requiring people to drive into the station and report from the pumps) will ever be implemented. The spotters here are volunteers and it is unreasonable to ask a volunteer to waste so much of his time and money in extra gas.

I think a better and long standing suggestion would be to not allow the posting of prices for grades of fuel that aren't checked in the MSL entry for that station.
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CSF
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 5:27:53 PM

Scoutmaster said "Do you pull into every gas station you post prices for CSF???? Based on your point total, it doesn't appear you post much of anything."

Answer to your question - YES, when it's been established that the station does not post in regular increments.

Response to your insult:
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CSF
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 5:26:36 PM

Rumbleseat,

I said "YES, seriously, I expect people to pull up to the pump when it's been established that a station does not post its prices in regular increments."

You said "...of course, it is not legitimate to post for other grades by making up prices based on increments a person thinks they might be using at a particular station."

After ALL those words, rumbleseat, it seems we agree! And the purpose of your post was therefore...??
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 1:33:48 AM

CSF says: "YES, seriously, I expect people to pull up to the pump when it's been established that a station does not post its prices in regular increments."

So you are comfortable with that waste of gas? What if the station is busy, do you advocate sitting in line for however long it takes to get to the pump to look at it, then driving away?
I drive up to the pumps when I buy gas. Occasionally, if I have stopped to buy something in the store, and the weather is decent, I will walk past the pumps to look at them.
But driving in JUST to look at the pumps, and driving away? That is just silly, it is a waste of gas, and time.

One should not post prices that one has not observed, but one should post prices they have observed, so, if the pylon only shows regular, then it is perfectly legitimate to post only regular, and, of course, it is not legitimate to post for other grades by making up prices based on increments a person thinks they might be using at a particular station.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 2/18/2013 1:36:44 AM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 7:18:18 PM

CK's list has no point other than to keep him busy.

Do you pull into every gas station you post prices for CSF???? Based on your point total, it doesn't appear you post much of anything.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 1:59:43 PM

TxJeans wrote:
"You expect people to waste gas and time pulling into stations to report when not buying gas?"

CSF wrote:
"YES, seriously, I expect people to pull up to the pump when it's been established that a station does not post its prices in regular increments. People are supposed to be posting ACTUAL prices, not suppositions, and not estimates."

You're confusing two issues.
First, the prices that should be posted are those prices that are actually observed by the member."
Second, it's not a requirement that a member post prices for grades or types of fuel a station sells."

It's not a matter of laziness that a member does not pull into a gas station to confirm prices for grades or types of fuel that aren't listed on the overhead signs (that can reasonably be seen by a passing motorist/Gas Buddy member). It's simple expediency. And no member should feel that they should have to post prices for each grade or type of fuel, unless you're also suggesting that members are also lazy for not posting prices for every station that they drive by.

The issue is simple; post prices for grades and types of fuel that you confirm as accurate, regardless of how many different prices a station may sell.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 1:12:13 PM

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[Edited by: Scrapheap at 2/17/2013 1:16:06 PM EST]
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CSF
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:32:41 PM

CampKohler,

"This suggestion has been added to the Suggestion Tracking List as a new topic on an existing subject."

I've never seen such a list! What is the point of it, and who pays attention to it?

Thank you.
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CSF
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:29:19 PM

TxJeans said "Seriously? You expect people to waste gas and time pulling into stations to report when not buying gas?"

YES, seriously, I expect people to pull up to the pump when it's been established that a station does not post its prices in regular increments.

People are supposed to be posting ACTUAL prices, not suppositions, and not estimates.

If you think that the lazy way is the way to go, then let's eliminate the mid-grade and premium prices, and everyone can just imagine what they might be. <rolls eyes>

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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 10:19:29 PM

@Miataprincess
" Too many lazy people posting from the street & not pullig up to the pump "

Seriously? You expect people to waste gas and time pulling into stations to report when not buying gas?

There is NOTHING wrong with posting from the street sign as long as you do so accurately. If you eliminate the postings from the street, you will eliminate many of the price posts that ARE valid prices. Unfortunately, in some areas of the country only the REGULAR or REGULAR and DIESEL are posted on the sign. And, in most cases, the price posted is the CASH price.

So, the request that we post the CASH price (I understand originally it was cash, then credit and now changed back to cash), is two-fold. First the cash price is usually cheaper than the standard credit price (sans rewards), but as importantly, it is what is most often posted since prices are posted from the sign and the signs usually list the cash price.

This is why we have been asking that the fields for reporting (all routes of reporting) be tied to the MSL, and that there is a durable flag for dual priced (cash/credit) stations, and membership stations. Even if price fields are available for both cash and credit, the fact is that most stations don't post both at the street.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 10:11:53 PM

This suggestion has been added to the Suggestion Tracking List as a new topic on an existing subject.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 4:32:30 PM

Entering an E-85 as diesel is wrong and any posted like this should be deleted.
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MiataPrincess
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 2:09:24 PM

Would love to see E85 listed and also only list what the station is selling. Too many lazy people posting from the street & not pullig up to the pump
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unclesnipe
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 1:41:48 PM

eventually I think this needs to happen. as for E-85 prices entered as diesel, the price should be a tip off that it's not diesel, right? most of the E-85 prices I see are regular -10 cents. and you would think that the system would warn the member they are trying to enter a VERY low price for diesel? "magic Diesel" is a real problem here, as I'm sure it is in other areas. hopefully they finally change the system so only windows for the grades checked in the MSL entry come up. a promise still unfulfilled. right up there with "report the user and zero out the bad price. we have contacted the user in question". yeah, how's that working out LOL
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