MsPeachi747
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 1:01:15 PM
The underlying idea is KISS. Let's keep with that idea.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 7:36:38 PM
CampKohler:
For clarification, you wrote:
"Even determining whether or not the suggested capability currently exists, (while it might be nice if he did) shouldn't be a requirement as the membership will eagerly point out if it already does. If we are to urge suggesters to put in more thinking and effort on their suggestions, it should be in the area of clearly expressing them such that readers who cannot see into the suggester's mind can understand exactly what he is talking about.:
If suggestions are to be accepted without regard to whether a suggested capability currently exists, then what's the purpose of your posting (below):
"This suggestion has been added to the Suggestion Tracking List as a new topic on an existing subject."
If there's no regard to the past (or current capability), then why should the items be added to the tracking list? Surely a purpose of the tracking list is to enable members to review what's already been started as a topic, isn't it? Or am I misinterpreting the response?
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 7:16:09 PM
This suggestion has been added to the Suggestion Tracking List as a new topic on an existing subject.
User-selectable starting and ending points seems like a useful idea. This would allow periods of interest to show finer granularity. As it stands now, the earlier you specify, the poorer the resolution of the chart.
As far as philosophy goes, I don't think a suggester should have to analyze past suggestion adoptions and deduce management's likelyhood of adopting some new one. It is enough that the idea itself be expressed here. Even determining whether or not the suggested capability currently exists, (while it might be nice if he did) shouldn't be a requirement as the membership will eagerly point out if it already does. If we are to urge suggesters to put in more thinking and effort on their suggestions, it should be in the area of clearly expressing them such that readers who cannot see into the suggester's mind can understand exactly what he is talking about. On that account I think Zimcity did a fine job.
[Edited by: CampKohler at 1/8/2013 7:21:14 PM EST]
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 4:46:15 PM
I agree that it would sometimes be a nice feature to have, and that some form of it would be simple to add, given the existing functionality. I can also see how there could be an issue with data mining -- but I expect that the serious data miners in the audience, if any, would not be reading the graph, even if the zoom-and-pan were provided. Scraping the site for the current day's price is both simpler and more accurate, though it only goes back to when they started to scrape.
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 4:07:02 PM
So "Gas_Buddy" in your opinion, there is no room for improvement to site features? How sad.
It's a simple request to expand a useful website function and one that I feel many users might find useful. It's not even close to a data mining tool, but a simple begin and to a chart view. Sheesh.
Try looking at 2008 gas prices on their own with the current view, and maybe you'll have a better understanding of the simple improvement suggested.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 3:04:51 PM
Not being cynical but you're asking for a lot from a website that doesn't charge for basic information that's useful to the mass membership, versus what the website can sell to others requesting specific information, are you?
What you're asking for seems, to me, to be what many data mining (if that's the correct phrase) companies sell in order to remain in business.
I just don't see that this information is useful as a general rule, but is more in the "I personally want to have this because I personally want to see...but don't want to have to search around or pay for it. Just my opinion. I understand the suggestion and can see how isolated people might find it useful, but I don't see how it falls into Gas Buddy's general purpose.
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