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auburnpeanut

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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 3:07:15 PM

You should add the ability to use and talk in the forums, read the news updates and do the weekly poll to the Iphone App. And it would also be cool if you could look and see the current gas price statistics in the app as well.
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MiataPrincess
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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 6:39:27 PM

great idea
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 1:42:05 PM

In response to "...I do disagree with the people who say the "awards" mean nothing", scoutmaster wrote:
"If they meant something, why are you the only one who knows what you have earned?"

What was left out after "I disagree..." was "I consider the app as a fun diversion, not just a useful tool for checking gas prices.

The awards (regardless of what I think of them) are more than "you are the only who knows what you have earned" (though I do make that point frequently), the "awards" are a mark of personal achievement, personal dedication, continuance (in the same manner as the consecutive days list is valued by members). I understand the personal pride that some may feel in reaching any "next level".

But I cannot figure out how the app is a "fun diversion". I understand kwzh's participation in playing solitaire, which takes at least a few minutes; I don't understand how posting a gas price, even if it changes your award level, is a "diversion". A diversion from what? And a diversion of what? Of doing something for a couple seconds?

However, back to the original topic. Regardless of what we think of the apps, this topic is for "Gas Buddy App Improvements." Unless the discussion is about removing the awards from the app, then we should move on. In my opinion.
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All_Wheelin
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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 10:36:05 AM

Regarding the personal entertainment side of the app - that likely worked when this was a project of interest by the founders, but it (Gasbuddy) has been sold and is now a commercial interest. I think that has likely changed the development priorities.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 8:32:00 AM

Personal entertainment. I still play certain solitaire games even if nobody else knows whether I win or not.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 5:09:42 AM

"However, I do disagree with the people who say the "awards" mean nothing."

If they meant something, why are you the only one who knows what you have earned?
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khawk858
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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 1:32:33 AM

Thanks for the app comments. I agree with the individual that the requirement does encourage cheating. However, I do disagree with the people who say the "awards" mean nothing. I consider the app as a fun diversion, not just a useful tool for checking gas prices. I believe the awards were created as an escape from the dry numbers of merely reporting prices. Along that line there would not need to be a blog or a Just for Fun Section. I appreciate the form the creators have used to make the site interesting from a human perspective.
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zachlCA
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Message Posted: May 18, 2013 1:26:30 AM

kmapjr: Thanks I just rebooted the phone and downloaded the app and it seems to be working better.
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kmapjr
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Message Posted: May 17, 2013 10:54:16 PM

zachICA : I'm having no trouble with the app on an iPhone, maybe try & uninstall it & then redownload & install, plus a restart before usuing may help as well.... Just my 2ยข.... Good luck, hope it works for ya
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zachlCA
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Message Posted: May 17, 2013 10:31:34 PM

The ads on the app are causing it to glitch and freeze, I don't know if anyone else is having this problem but there are times where the app is totally unresponsive. I don't know if this is all because of the adds but the app is no longer running as smooth as it use to and to often does not work at all.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 10:40:15 AM

While we're getting off-topic, to follow-up kwzh's post, in which it was correctly noted "it looks like you're often creating new topics where a reply to an existing topic might be a better choice", it might also help, in attracting responses (and ultimately or potentially buddies), to join more substantive discussion categories (rather than the Just For Fun type topics), and, if you're going to start topics, be more descriptive in their topic titles, to better entice people to read your thread (and subsequently join it).

And, as noted below, it doesn't seem that the member making the original post, asking for the iPhone app to include forum discussion, news updates, and weekly poll participation, is interested in responses to his/her suggestion. Mabye the other suggestions can be placed in their own threads to stimulate discussion of specific ideas. Or, should this thread be re-titled to serve and be identified as a compilation thread for assorted ideas?


[Edited by: Gas_Buddy at 5/16/2013 10:43:10 AM EST]
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kwzh
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 3:44:53 AM

tenasha12 writes,
> I would like to have more requests for buddies

As of tonight you have posted 24 messages to the forum. I would guess that there aren't very many members who feel that they know you very well yet. Perhaps your Manitoba forum has some topics that you could participate in, or even a live meet that you could attend? (Oh, hm, I see you've been there and in fact have done much of the recent posting yourself, under your current username or what I presume to be your previous one. OK, it's not surprising that a province-wide forum would have sparse commentary; maybe the Winnipeg forum would work better, even if you're not from that area. Btw, it looks like you're often creating new topics where a reply to an existing topic might be a better choice.)

You could also interact with people in the Off Topic category, or in Games. We're looking for more participants over in the Situation Riddles games -- the current one is probably close to wrapping up now, but I might be starting a new one after this one ends.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 8:22:06 PM

Has anyone noticed the OP hasn't returned?
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 7:54:45 PM

Scoutmaster said "The best solution is to eliminate the app awards. They are meaningless and all they do is encourage cheating. "
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I tend to agree. Can someone explain the fascination with these "app awards"?
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As All Wheeling said "yes, it would be nice, but those awards don't go anywhere beyond your own device."
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Personally, I can think of a lot more exciting things. I post what prices I see, and if I take the cost effective route home, I only see one on the way home from work. Many stations do not post more than regular around here, an. If I can see across the intersection to grab the station on the way in I'll grab the price on the way in. If I travel the surface streets I try to catch what is safely available to post or when running errands or playing on the weekend. I think it is counter productive to drive out of one's way to any significant extent to meet pricing needs for some "award". It defeats the purpose of saving money with my gas purchases.
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Back the OP - no need to have TALK in forums or read news in the APP. The APP is for reporting prices efficiently. If you want to "talk" do it when you aren't driving using the m.site or full.site. Same for posting in the forums.
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The AP is NOT meant to be a replacement for the full web site.


[Edited by: TxJeans at 5/15/2013 7:58:14 PM EST]
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 12:54:24 PM

tenasha12 wrote:

"I would like to have more requests for buddies as I have requested and nada. Would be nice to have people to relate to when needed."

Are you saying that you requested other members to become your buddy and they haven't responded or they said no, they don't want to be your buddy?
And are you suggesting that Gas Buddy management encourage people to become your buddy because "nada" to your personal requests to other members that they be your buddy?

If all you're doing is sending blind or random "be my buddy" requests to others without giving them a reason they should "be your buddy", most people (in my opinion) aren't going to say "yes" to your request. They have no reason to say yes, unless they're in the "how many friends I have" mode. Many (perhaps most) members develop their buddy list from those they interact with in the various discussions rather than from unknown members.

If you want more buddies, and it's just a suggestion, contact them on their white board and give them a reason why they should be your buddy. Or take part in the local Manitoba Gas Buddy discussions, where you can "relate" to others about local issues or "when needed" (not exactly sure what that means, however).

khawk858 wrote:

"Why not give credit for a full report when all of the types of fuels available are reported, not just if you report 4."

The intent of giving credit for "4" is to not make it as easy as possible, but to make you do a little extra effort, encouraging you to find those stations that (actually) provide a little more than the minimum. If you make the awards so easy that there's no effort necessary, you might as well get the awards for simply "showing up". All you're being asked to do is "just a little more than the minimum" in order to reach the next award level. That doesn't seem to be asking too much of a member, especially if the member thinks the awards are that important or significant.CampKohler:

Suggestions for you your attention.
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tenasha12
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 8:24:13 AM

I would like to have more requests for buddies as I have requested and nada. Would be nice to have people to relate to when needed
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 6:13:16 AM

The best solution is to eliminate the app awards. They are meaningless and all they do is encourage cheating.
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All_Wheelin
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 12:09:27 AM

khawk858 - yes, it would be nice, but those awards don't go anywhere beyond your own device. There are other issues in the app that can and should be addressed that affect the overall app, and will likely get the only things that might get some attention.

The easy way out would be to define the award as reporting four prices at a station, but that wouldn't match the (contrived) award title.

Another area of change needed in this area is to encourage NOT reporting all the prices if the station does not list all the options as available. It would have to be a "soft stop", as the MSL is not always accurate, but a warning popped up when reporting a price for a supposedly non available grade would go a ways in helping better reporting.
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khawk858
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Message Posted: May 14, 2013 12:51:29 AM

Just an idea: the app shows what types of fuels a station provides (regular, medium,premium, deisel). Many stations do not sell diesel but reporting the other three available does not give a note for reporting all prices. Why not give credit for a full report when all of the types of fuels available are reported, not just if you report 4.
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TRAIMICHELLE
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 10:37:26 AM

More options for points
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gas_phil
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2013 12:27:40 AM

Yes, I think you're correct. Please do report to GB via the play store or in the app. I had this problem too yesterday. I normally set it to premium but could not find the station. When I hit regular (or mid) type the station showed up! It was indeed strange and I thought it was just me! I will also report to them. thanks.
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All_Wheelin
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2013 12:14:17 AM

Well, with some more experience, the new app is still not showing all the stations available. I started up near work, and when I got near home (about 15 miles as the crow flies), Sam's, LeRoys and Paradise did not show up, even after several refreshes. All other local stations showed up, at the correct distance away, do the GB app had a good GPS point. I changed from Reg to Mid grade, and these stations did show up. Switching back to Reg caused them to disappear again. Oh well, thought it was getting better.
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All_Wheelin
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 12:35:39 AM

gas_phil, I see two issues here - the start-up location acquisition, and the refresh of the list after the phone has moved to a different geographic location. For the first issue, I can see having to refresh the list once or twice after wake-up. That seems to happen fairly fast these days (at least a bit better than before). The second issue is the one that is more troubling for me. I know the app has a current location, based on the stations shown, but not all local stations are shown. Typically it is the lessor level stations (not the SA/Holiday/BP/etc, but local Mom-and-Pop, or Sam's, etc). The latest app seems to have cured that one, at least in my use so far.
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gas_phil
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2013 2:40:00 AM

All_Wheelin, I tried it about 6 or 7 times earlier today. About 3 or 4 times it found the nearest stations correctly. Now i'm wondering maybe the app just receives the first one or two (average) location/data right after the GPS became active and this may not always be accurate enough.

On my phone the GPS is set to on but we know it probably goes into the auto-off mode to save battery/power when the screen is off for some time. So when we wake the phone and quickly hit the GB app, the GPS has just awaken, finds/gives the app the rough location... and the app then gives us a list of stations. We look at this list and then go "that's not it!" Perhaps the phone hasn't awaken long enough to have a chance to find several satellites to triangulate and provide us the most accurate location(?)

(Tomorrow I'll try with the phone/power plugged in to see if the GPS circuit/chip will stay on or at least not go into the deep sleep or off mode.)

I found another ad on the home screen, at the bottom (it's still ok - i'm happy the ads don't show up on every page now:))
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All_Wheelin
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2013 11:28:25 PM

gas_phil, out and about today, it seemed I was getting a bit better loading of the stations as I moved around. Not that much faster, though...still a bit of time to get the features loaded before reporting is available. Overall, an improvement, but not a massive one. With some apps, though, there is a backwards option on new version results, so I'll take it and look for the next.
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gas_phil
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2013 12:17:24 AM

All_Wheelin, I tried the GPS part on the way home earlier. I was next to a gas station and started the app from the desktop/icon (was back/back/exit/closed earlier at my desk). It looked promising as it went into the search mode with the circular/spinning bargraph. Then it provided the same old list of stations from earlier and not the station that I just arrived at:( So this is not too hot. (The weather outside was clear... no clouds to block the satellites.)

Now here at home, I opened/started the app a few minutes ago. It too went into circular/spinning/search bargraph mode and it correctly provided the nearest stations. It correctly showed the distance from here to that nearest station and sequentially lists the other stations in the correct distance/order.

So this GPS search feature is still iffy. (Late last year the GPS search was spot-on if I remember correctly.)

This updated no-ad version today is great though!! :)
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All_Wheelin
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 11:00:08 PM

gas_phil, thanks. I checked, and I was on V2.21. Just pulled V2.23, and it _seems_ faster in navigation. I, too, will be interested to see if it loads all the local stations when the list is refreshed - even after moving quite a ways from where GB was initially started.
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gas_phil
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 8:26:29 PM

This is a follow up to my post on Mar 11 further below. The Google play store just pushed me an updated app and I played with it at my desk here.

Yaaay!! This version feels much much faster!! I don't see ads/banners everywhere on the app like before (just one text-type ad at the top of the list of nearby stations... this has been there a long time I think and it's certainly acceptable. The page-to-page transition feels much faster too.

The GPS also correctly picks up the nearest station (it didn't always do it correctly before this) but i'll find out more about the GPS part when I drive around later:)

Thank you gasbuddy.com :cool !!
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2013 12:19:42 AM

If the MSL isn't up to date, that's a short-term problem that can be fixed in minutes by any senior member with access to the internet. Meanwhile, the system is permitting a long-term problem to persist. Hence, I think it's appropriate to make the proposed change, even if MSL errors are anticipated.

This particular change seems to already be in the pipeline, possibly waiting for time or money.
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All_Wheelin
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2013 11:12:49 PM

tdhlmn - I've thought about restricting posting, too, but there are times when the MSL isn't correct for a station, and then prices couldn't be posted until the MSL is updated. Either way, a bit of a bump in the road. Maybe just a warning message like the "too high?" or "too low?" warnings that come up at times would be best. Allow all postings, but warn if the station doesn't currently have the particular grade listed.
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tdhlmn
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2013 11:15:46 AM

1. how about restricting the gas/fuel types to those offered at the station. i.e. a station that only sells R/M/P does not sell Diesel - remove the option of posting a diesel price to that station.

2. on the Map view save that last zoom level for the next time you return to the map.

3. maybe save the last view (map/list) to return to. I like the map view for the most part as it is easier to determine which station to post to. example - I drive past a corner that has 2 Conoco station on it, much easier to know which one is which.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 8:50:36 PM

me_am - since you mentioned more prizes, are you going to donate to GasBuddy so they have more prizes to give out?
You can look and post in the forums via the mobile website, but not the APP and that is how it should be. An APP is an application not a full blown website. The forums do not belong in an APP as the APP would become bloated.
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me_am
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 9:26:02 AM

More prizes, so many people going after 1 prize. The ability to look and post in the forums from the app. Something similar to a fuel log. Had to download an additioanl app to keep track where it'd be nice to have it all in one place.
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All_Wheelin
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 12:53:28 AM

I've seen some of the forum topics like "5 easy" or something like that...people post five entries in a row like "1", "2", "3", ...gets them their five posts for the day. I think I was something else that suggested making a "points post" be a minimum number of characters. I don't think that would help...it would be just longer nonsense posted.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 12:27:56 AM

TxJeans writes,
> The number of people doing what is unbelievable?
Perhaps it's the number of people making silly suggestions.

phpearso writes,
> [...] get the same points?
Yes, of course. It would be a great waste of resources to keep someone on the payroll just to judge which comments are "worthy" of points! That said, there's nothing wrong with posting a content-free message just to get the points -- as long as you do it in the Just For Fun forum, which was created to keep such fluff out of the serious forum categories.
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phpearso
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 12:16:46 AM

Do members who answer a yes or no question get the same points as those who give a thoughtful answer?

...and do multiple replies to the same post get additional points added?

just asking.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2013 7:58:01 PM

@geno700:
"they should do more prizes."
So, are you going to donate the prizes or the money so that they have more prizes to give out? Seriously, you can contact the management with your offer.
@geno700:
"number of people doing this is un believable"
The number of people doing what is unbelievable?
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geno700
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2013 10:18:41 AM

they should do more prizes. number of people doing this is un believable
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All_Wheelin
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2013 12:16:30 AM

A thought for the app - after attempting to post prices, if the posting was not successful, pop an error message up requiring a response instead of a quick fade of the note (that could be mistaken for the "Thank you..." note).
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All_Wheelin
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2013 12:26:28 AM

djp, Thanks, I'll have to try that the next time I have a "missing" station and see if it fixes the issue I'm seeing.
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2013 5:43:34 AM

Sometimes the station right next to me is not listed in the list for regular gas, even though it was earlier that day. To get it to show, I go to Midgrade, see it and update the price for Regular. Station is still does not show in Regular, but it does accept the price.
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2013 1:34:42 AM

Not all stations sell diesel fuel. We should get credit for "perfectionist" if we report all the grades of fuel a particular station sells.
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All_Wheelin
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2013 12:24:01 AM

On the app for a while I have noticed it does not load all of the stations near...it seems to leave out the "small market" type stations, if the app was initially loaded when out of the area. All of the major stations seem to be there, and if the app is restarted, then the small market stations are there, too (but not if you just refresh the list - no matter how many refreshes are attempted).
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2013 3:14:44 PM

Sometimes it sure feels sluggish/slow.... like it's searching and loading all the ads first and then the stations' important data (feels this way). Please give all our share of ads to the other users that don't enter prices so that our apps can load faster! Those of us that enter data regularly should get this premium no-ad edition:) Just double their ads and we can have the right amount/total of daily ads served! :)

Also the "find gas near me" via GPS for some reason lately, since the last update, isn't doing it all the time. It used to find all the nearest stations instantly before the update if i remember correctly. (I looked many times already and the App Start Up settings is pointing to the "near me" setting but no joy.)

(Android version. Fast 4G LTE network/area.)

Please help! Thanks.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 6:25:51 AM

I'm on Android 4.1.1 and I'm not having any issues with speed.
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 12:53:19 AM

>> I find the app almost unbearably slow ...

I agree, you may have a slow data service, or you may have too many apps running in the background, reducing the amount of RAM available to the GB app.

A utility that I like for freeing up ram when apps lock up or run slow is: "Gemini Taskiller Widget". It is easier to use than any other taskiller I have tried, and it is very effective. To run the taskiller, you can simply shake your phone, and the taskiller starts, freeing as much RAM as posible.
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All_Wheelin
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 9:39:50 PM

Maybe not the service, but a local "blockage". I've got one spot near me that I have full bars on the phone, but no data transmission some of the time. Drive out the of the few-block area and all is well again. I should check next time I have no GB app connection if other data connections work.

I will agree that the app should allow movement forward to report prices, even if all the "features" aren't loaded for the station. Frustrating to wait for that to complete before it will let you go forward and report.
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 7:22:32 PM

casner: perhaps it is your wireless service that is slow. Who is it?
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casner
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 7:01:02 PM

I find the app almost unbearably slow under Android 2.3.7. It spends way too much time with network communication for practically every keystroke. It also does not seem to be multi-threaded. I enter a price, and it waits several seconds until it shows a useless "thanks for entering prices" then won't let me select another station until that times out.
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NYINYM1
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 12:39:13 PM

How come on the droid app you can choose from favorite stations as well as insert time spotted, whereas these features are not available on the apple gasbuddy app?
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 4:16:39 PM

Johnny907:

"Add the forum/news/posting ability to the app would be greatly appreciated!"

Moderators have said repeatedly that the app isn't meant to replicate or duplicate the full website. The app is simply an abbreviated version of Gas Buddy's primary purpose (posting/sharing prices in a given area).

You can, if you want to access all features of the website, use your mobile device's browser to access the full website.

But, you're not here for points, obviously. (That's based on your current point level, which could only have been achieved by regular price posting.) As for missed points, well, speaking for your local Alaska Gas Buddy members, thank you; you're doing what helps them be more knowledgeable shoppers.

Maybe, however, what would be useful, would be if there were an easily identifiable "quick link" on the home page of the app that took you from the app directly to your device's browser and opened the website. That would keep the app simple (from the user's/member's perspective).
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