scoutmaster

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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 6:56:05 AM
Thanks Don and GM. Since this topic seems to have run it's course, it would probably be a good idea to shut it down before it gets ugly.
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CampKohler

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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 8:19:35 PM
My apologies. The reason I saw it just then was that I was composing a reply and that's the ONLY time you can see it. (I never would have seen it if the Wifi hadn't failed to post, which lead me to be looking around for what had gone wrong. Well, at least I learned a new GB factoid today even if I didn't bolster my argument.)
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scoutmaster

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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 4:21:24 PM
Yup that's been there for a long time. As I stated in the past CK, learn the site before you want to change it.
[Edited by: scoutmaster at 11/30/2012 4:23:34 PM EST]
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Don

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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 4:04:34 PM
@CampKohler,
"I just this very minute noticed that there is a new Hide Top Message button (meaning the OP) at the top of each forum msg. When did that happen? It's not in What's New. I rest my case."
This is not a new website feature, so it would not be included in the What's New area.
-Don
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GM

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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 3:46:39 PM
>CK
As we have discussed in the past. We will decide what is posted in what's new. You have to understand, for security reasons we can't divulge every detail. As for the the "Hide Top Msg" button, that has been there for quite a long time. It's not included with What's New area because it is not a new site feature. - Ryan (RD)
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CampKohler

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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 3:19:51 PM
driveonb1: I did not wish to imply that I was interested in back-office matters or programming secrets, but rather I want to know about the changes in site behavior that users experience. In my opinion, that kind of useful information should be published rather than being discovered by accidentally stumbling upon it. Many sites (and software manufacturers) inform their users contemporaneously of functional improvements and fixes and do not feel wrong about doing so. It lets users know that management is on the ball and keeping up. (And they know that nobody is going to toot your horn for you.)
Here's a good example: I just this very minute noticed that there is a new Hide Top Message button (meaning the OP) at the top of each forum msg. When did that happen? It's not in What's New. I rest my case.
(PS: If you or others have any different [from the topic on hand] improvements in mind, I would be very pleased if you or they would post them in a separate topic(s) in order that they get their own deserved day in the sun and don't languish unnoticed, floating face down in the brackish backwaters of the comments of other topics, so to speak. Publicity is good.)
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scoutmaster

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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 2:48:12 PM
HUH??? I just looked at the What's New. There are five (5) entries since June.
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CampKohler

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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 2:39:27 PM
Maybe I missed something, but there has been no site info since June in What's New. It is hard to believe that there have been no problems resolved or changes made in five months that would be visible to users. I could be wrong though.
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driveonby1

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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 2:20:37 PM
Good communication exercise, but we really don't need to know back-office or programming info. I do wish we could search postings by member in order to see thinking trends, or, for that matter who just posts "K" in order to build up posts or points.
The site is otherwise really useful for me.
thanks
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scoutmaster

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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2012 9:13:21 PM
I agree that transparency and feedback are best. But what does the general membership need to know about the technical changes? What good would that serve?
Well, CK, maybe if you looked around the site and got the lay of the land better you would find you liked it and realize all these changes you think are necessary are really not! Like this one!
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CampKohler

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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2012 7:06:15 PM
Transparency and feedback is always best.
As far as making changes goes, I have been that way for years and years and I am not about to change now! :-)
[Edited by: CampKohler at 11/22/2012 7:09:35 PM EST]
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maxstar

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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2012 12:08:28 PM
True it is somebody's business,but not members or the public at large.
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scoutmaster

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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2012 11:14:46 AM
Yeah it is the title of the category but CK seems to want to change everything!
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kwzh

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Message Posted: Nov 22, 2012 1:21:58 AM
scoutmaster writes, > All you seem to want to do is make changes!
Well, that *is* the whole point of this forum category.
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CampKohler

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 11:53:25 PM
Surely it must be SOMEBODY'S business. :-)
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maxstar

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 3:02:53 PM
The technical details of site changes, app revisions, bug fixes and the like is information that is not anybody's business.
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scoutmaster

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 2:51:02 PM
Jeesh CK! Is there anything you like about this site? All you seem to want to do is make changes!
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Don

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 10:30:39 AM
Hi CampKohler,
Thanks for your feedback.
App revisions and bug fixes are usually outlined in each app's respective download page. These kinds of updates are not something that will be included in the TBTU/What's New areas.
Technical site changes is a relatively broad term, understandably changes related to our back-end tools or revisions of coding/markup (invisible or of disinterest to most) wouldn't be announced to the site.
It's things related to noticeable site changes, major activity related to site stats, social/media related items or overall things of that nature are indicated on the What's New page.
-Don
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