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mxd528

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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 1:35:49 PM

Split the weekly prize up so there are more winners, just less for each. I would be just as happy to win $25.00 or $50.00 and have a better chance of winning. A win is a win - and a smaller prize is still good value.
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 3:45:20 PM

How about 250 winners per week of $1.00 each!
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 12:58:19 PM

prorodeo2012:

You wrote, "
good idea to split up"

Why would it be a good idea to "split up"? What's your reasoning for the suggestion?

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glambgirl wrote:

"Yes. Two prizes per week, $125 each."

Why would this be a better idea than one prize of $250 per week?
Why not, if you simply want to have more winners, suggest five prizes per week, $$50 each? Or ten prizes per week, $25 each? Or, 25 prizes per week, $10 each?

How, I guess the question is, did you come up with the idea of two prizes per week, $125 each?

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glambgirl
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 3:12:07 AM

Yes. Two prizes per week, $125 each.
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prorodeo2012
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 4:55:02 AM

good idea to split up
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 4:56:43 PM

Don wrote:
"That's not too bad for a site/app that's of no cost to the users if you ask me!"

It's not to bad if you ask me. And I'm sure it's not too bad if you ask most of the old-timers here (for lack of a better word), those that seem to be the ones that participate the most and most constructively (even if of different opinions) in the primary discussion categories of Talk Back To Us, Suggest a Website Improvement, and (for the most part) General Gas Talk.

But it seems no matter what the prize is, no matter how it's given or shared, we won't end this constant starting of new topics to "Increase the prize...make the prize smaller so more people can win...combine the prizes so that it's worthwhile at the pump", etc.

Maybe we should just take all the "I have a suggestion for the prize" topics and put them together in a category as we have for "How did you find us?" Except, of course, people post other things in that category besides how they found "us".

Inasmuch as the prize or it's distribution isn't expected to change in the near future, and as it isn't an issue the station operators intend to review soon, maybe this topic can be closed. After all, it seems the topic has pretty much been discussed and explained in detail. Just my opinion, however.

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Don
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 4:19:37 PM

I think since the summer of 2001, GasBuddy has given away about $63,000 in gas card prizes, along with a number of various other prizes including personal transport items such as scooters and electric bikes (at one point we were giving away Genuine Buddy scooters, each of which now MSRP for $1999.00, there were about half a dozen of those given away).

The prize draw totals have increased from numerous $50.00 prizes per contest period to four $250.00 gas card prizes per month.

That's not too bad for a site/app that's of no cost to the users if you ask me!

-Don

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kwzh
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2012 7:33:26 AM

The GasBuddy organization was originally two guys running a server at a loss while also dealing with their day jobs. As the organization became bigger, and presumably attracted more income, they expanded the prize system with it; it used to be one prize per quarter, and I think the prize value might have been $100 back then. I'm guessing that they no longer operate at a loss, but it does seem to me that they've been good about giving back to the member base (us).
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 9:20:41 PM

RonElp:

While the moderators have already indicated that there already are one winner per week, which pretty much makes your suggestion that "Gas Buddy makes enough money to afford 2 winners a month... or maybe even one per week", a moot issue.

That said, it's none of our business, as non-paying members of a group participation website, to decide whether Gas Buddy makes enough money to afford two winners a month, one a week, or for that matter if Gas Buddy makes enough money to afford any winners at all. As for "...$1,000 per month would be a drop in the bucket for Gas Buddy, forgetting that they already offer more than that per month, whether it's a "drop in the bucket" or not is none of our business, nor should it be. Whatever business plan, income disbursement, or income versus expense issues is their business. It's one thing suggesting that prizes be increased; it's an entirely different thing to tell them what to do with their money, just as, I'm sure, you wouldn't appreciate any of us suggesting that you may want to donate prizes to increase El Paso Gas Buddy participation because we think that a certain amount of money that you could provide"would be a drop in the bucket."

It's their website and what they do with their income, regardless of whether it's to cover operating expenses, have a return on their investment (of both time and money), or to award prizes as incentives, is not for us to tell them what to do.
In my opinion. But, as already said, they're already offering more in prizes than what you're suggesting they increase to.

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GM
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 3:24:26 PM

>RonElp

There is a winner each week totaling 4 winners a month.


- Ryan (RD)
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RonElp
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 11:06:41 AM

I am sure Gas Buddy makes enough money to afford 2 winners a month... or maybe even one per week. They have Tens of Thousands of viewers each week... and advertisers on the banner ads. Without people posting prices, they would have no website. $1,000 per month would be a drop in the bucket for Gas Buddy.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 4:59:13 AM

Jayburt, I can't quite parse your message, but if your suggestion amounts to an increase in the total prize value per week, then FAQ #27 seems appropriate.
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Jayburt
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2012 4:31:25 AM

This is a great suggestion but try and not lower the prizes down past $50 or even keep them 200 just give more away! Have never one and now with everything going bad would be a good time.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 2:37:51 PM

driveonby1

"I'll admit I was swayed to join Toledo Gas Prices over a couple of other sites because of the drawing and its prize level."

Are you saying that you joined the Toledo Gas Buddy grouping over, say, an Ontario or Detroit or another Gas Buddy grouping, or are you saying that you joined Gas Buddy over other gas price posting sites, such as FuelGauageReport.com or www.gpw.com.com?

Because, as kwzh, if you joined any of the GasBuddy Organization Inc sites, you're chances of winning, your "tickets" are consolidated with all other Gas Buddy members, regardless of their being in the Toronto group, the Ontario group, or the Detroit group, as well as being combined with the tickets entered by the San Jose group, which kwzh is part of. One chance among all.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 1:49:57 AM

driveonby1 writes,
> I was swayed to join Toledo Gas Prices over a couple of other sites because of the drawing and its prize level.

I suppose that means because of a misunderstanding that you had about the drawing? Your odds of winning have nothing to do with which site you joined; all tickets are part of one global pool.
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driveonby1
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Message Posted: Nov 30, 2012 2:15:53 PM

I'll admit I was swayed to join Toledo Gas Prices over a couple of other sites because of the drawing and its prize level. But, I get more out of it than the chance to win. Though, the chance to win is an ongoing motivation. Keep it the same; less would reduce my motivation.
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CowboyJohn92
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 6:31:00 PM

Ur nuts USMC. Maybe pl like me need that gas cards.
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USMC_0411
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 6:20:59 PM

Dump all the prizes together
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CowboyJohn92
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 12:38:27 PM

Well they should ave more winers every wekk but the winners should get like 100 each. There should be atleast three winners a week.
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GM
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 5:52:21 PM

>mxd528

As you've been told the prizes aren't changing anytime soon. This topic has been open and closed numerous times. It is something that has been discussed internally and for now, it is staying as is.

>CampKohler

This will not be happening either. Say if you were number 1 on the leader board in points and the member behind you won 5000 points. How would that make you feel? Points are distributed to members who participate, not by luck.

>TxJeans

Excellent point. Sometimes it takes winners a few days get back to us. We understand not everyone checks their email everyday which is why we give them time to respond.

>Scoutmaster

The prizes are staying.

>fenster66

Personally I don't think it is fair to exclude a member because they haven't been on GasBuddy as long as others. If a new members wins that just means luck was on their side that week. This is something that needs to be discussed internally and I assure you that I will bring it up.

Thanks everyone for your input. There are a few other discussions going on right now so I will leave this topic open.



- Ryan (RD)
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buckeyecountry
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 6:51:15 PM

<I say dump the prizes all together!>

Not a bad idea
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:54:53 AM

fenster66 wrote > should there be a certain number of points earned before becoming eligible to participate in the drawing?

I would not be opposed to this idea of the bar were low, maybe 10K points. However, since the site gives new members a free ticket just for joining, I don't think this suggestion will ever be implemented.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:52:35 AM

CelticHeart wrote > I guess I can't figure out why someone who has been a member for just a few days is making all of these "change this" suggestions.

Just my opinion but perhaps people new to the site have the best ideas of how to make this site more attractive and useful to new people simply because they haven't learned to deal with all the quirks. Fresh eyes have an advantage over those of us who may suffer from group think.

That said, I disagree with this particular suggestion.
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fenster66
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 8:39:41 AM

I think the prize amount is fine as it is - although I sometimes envy members who are almost brand new and win - should there be a certain number of points earned before becoming eligible to participate in the drawing?
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 8:22:57 AM

Agree with everyone.

I guess I can't figure out why someone who has been a member for just a few days is making all of these "change this" suggestions. Learn the site, post a few more prices, get more than just 670 points before you start revamping the site.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 6:20:57 AM

I say dump the prizes all together!
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 9:18:01 PM

To add to Gas_Buddy's response...
They would have 5 people to contact, 5 people to post as winners which will create 5 times as many questions about why a winner wasn't posted yet.

Leave well enough alone.

I agree that the topic can be closed. It has already be added to the long list that will never see development that CK keeps.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 6:42:47 PM

This suggestion has come up multiple times (in multiple threads) in the years since the five weekly %50 prizes were consolidated, in part (I believe) in response to members saying that such small prizes ($50) would only be about one tank of gas, and that it was a sufficient enough prize. Many members suggested that the multiple prizes be consolidated and one prize, worth multiple fill-ups for most people would be a more appropriate prize.

Here's the bottom line (or at least one of them): If you have only one winner, and you're not the winner, having multiple winners gives you a better chance of winning. Having smaller prizes, in order to have multiple winners, reduces the value of the prize, and for many people would not even be one full tank of gas.

One member went so far as to suggest that the prize be reduced to $5, followed by another member suggesting $2, in order to maximize the number of winners, and to make more people "feel good".

Granted, mxd538, "A win is a win - and a smaller prize is stil good value", but do you really think your chances of winner would be signficantly increased enough to warrant a prize wroth half a fill-up, or half a tank of gas? I know, based on your original post your answer will be yes, but how small should the prize be in order to proivde "a better chance of winning" and so there there are more "a win is a win" recipients?

In part, because this topic has been raised so many times in other topics, moderators mighrt want to consider closing this specific topic.

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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 4:42:43 PM

This suggestion has been added to the Suggestion Tracking List as a new topic on an existing subject.

How about creating a Booby Prize, which would be MORE POINTS!
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 3:31:30 PM

It is fine the way it is. No changes are needed and this has been talked to death a thousand times.
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