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rspiano

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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 11:07:03 AM

My opinion: If you are banned from GasBuddy due to abuse (habitual reposter, deliberately posting false prices, etc.), your name should be removed from all leader boards (All Time Points Leaders/30 Day Points Leaders, [YourCity] Points Leaders, Consecutive Day Leaders). Example: The #6 on the TucsonGasPrices site has been inactive for the past couple of years because he/she was banned for blatant reposting. Since most of this person's points were obtained fraudulently, why should he/she be allowed to remain on the leader board?

This would in no way apply to those who retire from posting, pass away, forget to post, are eaten by cannibals [nod to CK], etc. Only to those whom the moderators ban from GasBuddy. Again: my opinion.
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mwjones
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 7:30:03 PM

Actually, the ability of de-listing banned users from the leaderboards was actively being worked on by the developers. They tried to implement it a couple of years ago, and had major problems that messed all the leaderboards up, so they had to undo the changes.

It is a complex situation from what I recall, and something that is not easy to do or implement (much like often asked request of allowing users to self-change their home site). My understanding was they would eventually try implementing it again, but there was never an estimated time for it to be done.

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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 6:23:32 AM

I'm not so sure this idea has legs. People join and stay for a day and never come back. Should they be listed with those who have been here for 10 years and decide to quit? What about the members who passed away? And there are the banned? Too many variables for a meaningless designation.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 4:30:42 PM

As I said (and Scrapheap's understanding may be correct), I may be wrong.

While I agree that banned members may have violated the terms of use of this site for any number of diverse reasons, many banned members have been reinstated and are are (I assume) rehabilitated (for lack of a better word) and are productive members of the website. I would prefer to not simply "teach them a lesson" and "make 'em start over", but would rather appreciate and recognize their contributions.

That said, I have no difficulty whatsoever with an asterisk or annotation next to a member's name indicating "retired" (again, from a previous topic, I have no idea what that actually means or how it would be determined), "deceased", or "no longer active" (referring to a member not having posted in a given period of time). Even if it's a now-banned member.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 3:30:04 PM

This suggestion has been added to the Suggestion Tracking List as a new subject.
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Scrapheap
Champion Author Virginia

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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 3:27:03 PM

My understanding of bannings is not the same as yours GB however, assuming you are correct, the difference between someone who is banned for any length of time and someone who has either retired or died is that the former violated the terms of use of this site in some way shape or form and the latter did not.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 1:49:22 PM

First, and while I understand the intent of the suggestion, the original post reads:
"Since most of this person's points were obtained fraudulently, why should he/she be allowed to remain on the leader board?"

Granted that may be the case in this one instance, it's not a universal given and not something I think should be presumed (that "banned' members didn't earn their points. I think most members that have been banned have been because of "language" in the discussions. I may be wrong.

Second, and I may be wrong, I think there are two levels of banning. Permanent banning (which does, I believe, remove the member's identity from the listings and standings, meaning that their points, etc., no longer appear) and temporary banning (a status for which the banned member is "banned" for a period 'of time, specific or otherwise, and can request reinstatement). As I said, I may be wrong and permanently banned members, those whose memberships have been completely terminated, are still listed.

But, if you're going to say remove one group of members, and completely disregard their contributions (again, members can be banned for any number of reasons, not just for wrongly accumulating points via price posting), why maintain the continuance of those you say "retire from posting, pass away, forget to post, are eaten by cannibals [nod to CK], etc." If the intent is others, active members, can move up the list, then non-participating members impede movement by active members. And, I write that as one who recognizes the contributions of those who were at the top of the leader boards at the time they they passed away.Maybe it's just that I don't want to disregard the contributions that some banned members made. If anything, I'd rather see it on a case by case basis, which, I think, is already being done.

Just my opinion.
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