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RichWLIN

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Message Posted: Aug 23, 2012 9:30:12 AM

Include non-ethanol gasoline in the MSL as a subset to the current selection of regular, midgrade, premium and diesel.

For instance, certain stations offer regular fuel in non-ethanol while others may only offer ethanol free premium. If a selection indicating that a fuel grade is non-ethanol were included in the MSL and so indicated on the website, members searching for non-ethanol blended fuels could locate stations in their proximity and be more accurately informed of current fuel grade offerings and prices.
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Don
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2013 1:23:58 PM

With current laws in the U.S. regarding ethanol being dependent on location, it is very difficult, if not impossible to have a way to determine ethanol content. Some areas require labeling gasoline with ethanol, some do not. Sometimes the only way of knowing is asking the station owner or the operator, and they may be reluctant to tell you.

At this point in time, ethanol free gasoline is considered a specialty fuel, similarly in regards to race gas, E-85 and biodiesel. Eventually gasoline without ethanol will become a thing of the past.

We hope to one day include ethanol indicators and other fuel types within the sites and apps, but for the time being continue to display prices for Regular, Midgrade, and Premium gasoline, as well as Diesel.

Thank you for your patience.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2013 10:32:24 AM

June 11th update: the ethanol free gas web site pure-gas.org currently includes 6789 stations that have been reported by volunteers as having non-ethanol fuel for sale.

This is 102 more stations than were reported as of May 16th. It is evident that volunteers interested in purchasing non-ethanol fuel grades are continuing to increase the database of stations presently offering this product. This is at least the 10th consecutive month of growth for the pure-gas.org website. While this may not suggest an increase in stations carrying non-ethanol fuel, it doesn't seem to support the notion that real gas is a dead or dying product.

Please add this option to the MSL (when and if it is ever modified) so that people interested in purchasing non-ethanol fuel can find this information here on GasBuddy rather than on another site.

RG
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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 7:01:16 AM

borsht - As kwzh said, there are a few stations that do not sell regular. That said, I agree that the adjective "non-leaded" is redundant and the whole question is dumb since the number of stations that do not sell regular gas are so few. What makes it even more dumb is why am I being asked this question if I am reporting prices for regular?
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kwzh
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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 4:58:34 AM

"Unleaded" or "non-leaded" is a redundant adjective, and has been for decades; all gasoline can now be assumed unleaded unless explicitly stated to be leaded.

So the actual question was "Does this station sell regular gas?" -- and the correct answer is "Yes" unless you're at one of the rare stations that sells premium only, or perhaps diesel only. (I hear that such stations exist, though I don't recall ever having seen one myself.)
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borsht
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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 12:49:15 AM

Hello Scrapheap;
I understand what you said, but that doesn't answer my question regarding the point of the GB question!
My questions is ;what does GB want to know? When I enter my prices, they ask the question

"Does this station sell non-leaded regular gasoline?"

As you stated, non-leaded regular gasoline can be either ethanol free or not. They are both regular gasoline.

It seems like a dumb question in its simplicity. Since ALL gas stations sell non-leaded regular gas!
The questtion is completly open to ambiguous interpretation, thus it appears as pointless question!
So what is the point of the question in their latest mobile AP.?
Should I ALWAYS answer yes? Then they are not getting any useful information.
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Message Posted: May 19, 2013 8:28:14 PM

borsht - You are confusing unleaded and ethanol free gas. You can have ethanol free gas that is also unleaded. It is sold widely in the mid-west but can be found in other rural areas. On a recent trip to South Carolina I saw stations prominently displaying prices for ethanol free gas.

[Edited by: Scrapheap at 5/19/2013 8:30:23 PM EST]
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borsht
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Message Posted: May 19, 2013 8:15:43 PM

A feature added recently to the App includes questions about the station we've just posted the prices.One of the questions asked is: Does this station sell non-leaded regular gas?

This is confusing, because leaded gas for automobiles is illegal, and would destrory the Catalytic converter with one filling.

So is the question, Do they sell non-ethanol Gas? i.e R87 or R90.
If this this is the question them ask it straightly not obliquely.

All E10 including regular is non-leaded. So the question in this case has no purpose.
Can someone update on the intent of these new questions?
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 1:18:50 AM

The ethanol free gas web site pure-gas.org currently lists 6687 stations providing ethanol free gas. This is up 103 stations since April 23rd.

Please add a selection indicating that a fuel grade is non-ethanol in the MSL and on the website so members and new followers searching for non-ethanol blended fuels can locate stations in their respective areas and or in their travels.

The non-e stations here on Maui, HI. have the non-e priced same as midgrades so great value if someone is looking for it and gas buddys price listing is far superior to just knowing where it is, thank you.
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khawk858
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Message Posted: May 14, 2013 1:14:53 AM

I understand wanting to add another measurement for completeness of reporting. How about reports for natural gas, too?
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2013 7:52:10 AM

April 23rd update: the ethanol free gas web site pure-gas.org currently lists 6584 stations providing ethanol free gas. This is up 101 stations since the beginning of the month.

Please add a selection indicating that a fuel grade is non-ethanol in the MSL and on the website so members searching for non-ethanol blended fuels can locate stations in their respective areas and or in their travels.

RG
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2013 8:49:11 AM

March 31st update: the ethanol free gas web site pure-gas.org currently has 6483 stations that have been reported by volunteers as having non-ethanol fuel for sale.

This is 67 more stations than were reported as of February 20th. It appears that volunteers interested in purchasing non-ethanol fuel grades are continuing to increase the database of stations presently offering this product (some margin of error is expected, much as it is here in GB land).

Referring to the current GB Poll discussion many members here would prefer to buy non-ethanol fuel if they knew where to find it.

If a selection indicating that a fuel grade is non-ethanol were included in the MSL and so indicated on the website, members searching for non-ethanol blended fuels could locate stations in their proximity and be more accurately informed of current fuel grade offerings and prices.

RG
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2013 12:50:41 PM

Seems to be a question of semantics.

There is no doubt that the pure-gas.org site number is continuing to grow; ostensibly as enthusiasts locate and report more stations that are now currently selling non-ethanol fuel. I'm sure too that there is likely some stale data (stations that no longer carry the product).

Of course, this isn't to say that more stations are now beginning to sell this fuel type, only that there does not yet seem to be a death knell decline as has been intimated here.

RG

P.S. A 5% minority will get you to the front of the line in this day and age.
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2013 11:41:59 AM

"So, are you suggesting that the 40-50 new stations reported by volunteers each month are purposely falsified?"

No, I'm suggesting that the increase of stations listed on that site, has nothing to do with a steady increase in the number of stations that offer ethanol free gas as you have claimed.

"Meanwhile, the number of stations carrying non-ethanol gas has steadily increased month after month."

Also, I don't believe that 5% of stations carrying a fuel type is a "significant share" worth over complicating the MSL and price entry.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2013 11:19:52 AM

Zimcity said: "Actually, what you are posting is the number of stations listed on that site, which may or may not carry non-ethanol gas."

So, are you suggesting that the 40-50 new stations reported by volunteers each month are purposely falsified?

Ok, so we're back around to the validity of volunteer input and it's flaws?

I would reiterate that there is probably a certain amount of inaccuracy with pure-gas.org inasmuch as it consists primarily of volunteer input; but, isn't a certain amount of inaccuracy to be anticipated? There is certainly enough of it to go around here.

Some of the same people who post diesel prices where none exist would likely do the same with non-ethanol fuels; however, the people reporting this particular fuel type are certainly more passionate about their reporting since it is a product that they are interested in and actively looking for.

RG
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2013 10:32:07 AM

I would love to know where non-ethanol fuel is sold. In FL. I have yet to see it at any of the stations I go to. If this was added to the stations fuel list then we could have the option of going to that station especially to buy fuel for our small engine equipment.
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2013 10:11:02 AM

"Meanwhile, the number of stations carrying non-ethanol gas has steadily increased month after month."

Actually, what you are posting is the number of stations listed on that site, which may or may not carry non-ethanol gas.

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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2013 9:27:08 AM

Sneakers55 said: ""Pure-gas" fanboys have 0% of the market in the EPA nonattainment areas where most GasBuddies probably live."

Most GasBuddies live in nonattainment areas? Care to clarify this statement? And, please try to do so without calling other members "fanboys".

Zimcity, The reason I post the updates here is as a result of unsubstantiated moderator statements like the one Sneakers55 made suggesting that non-ethanol blended gasoline "will be declining unless Congress decides to reverse the Renewable Fuel Standard."

If you read back through this thread, you'll find similar remarks from two separate GB moderators/senior fuel analysts. In both cases, the question was raised as to how this opinion was formed and in neither case did either expert respond. Meanwhile, the number of stations carrying non-ethanol gas has steadily increased month after month.

There is no reason not to include this info in the MSL. 5% is a significant share and only rare by the standards of those who would like to see it be.

RG

P.S. This is essentially a moot point, since no changes to the MSL of any kind are likely to be forthcoming.

[Edited by: RichWLIN at 3/7/2013 9:28:47 AM EST]
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 11:04:03 AM

"I have been one to report that Pure-Gas.org tends to be unreliable."

I removed one duplicate of a station shown in my area and am a bit dubious that there are as many non-ethanol stations in MN, a E-10 mandated state as are shown on that site.

I too would have the same concern as kwzh, of over-complicating the MSL, with fuel types that are either very rare, or non-existant for the majority of stations.

PS RichWLIN, you might not be aware that there is a non-Ethanol fuel topic where you could post your updates to the count of stations at Pure-Gas.org.


[Edited by: Zimcity at 3/6/2013 11:06:31 AM EST]
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 10:36:56 AM

On Feb 20, 2013 5:35:10 AM, RichWLIN wrote:

>February 20th update: the ethanol free gas web site pure-gas.org
>currently lists 6416 stations that offer non-ethanol fuel

There are, from the latest data I can get, 121,446 stations that offer motor fuels of any type.

The "pure-gas" fanboys only have 5% of the market. That will be declining unless Congress decides to reverse the Renewable Fuel Standard. Last time they fiddled with it, they only increased the amount of mandated ethanol, just as total fuel demand decreased. "Pure-gas" fanboys have 0% of the market in the EPA nonattainment areas where most GasBuddies probably live.

Let the "pure-gas" Web site keep track of ethanol-free fuels. They could probably merge with a Web site dedicated to the dodo bird.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 6:35:10 AM

February 20th update: the ethanol free gas web site pure-gas.org currently lists 6416 stations that offer non-ethanol fuel up 54 since January 25th.

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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 8:14:00 AM

January 25th update: the ethanol free gas web site pure-gas.org currently lists 6362 stations that offer non-ethanol fuel up 52 since January 12th.

Of interest: there is currently political movement setting out to reduce the amount of ethanol contained in products sold in the New England states; and to take measures that will make non-ethanol fuels more readily available.



[Edited by: RichWLIN at 1/25/2013 8:15:53 AM EST]
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 7:34:19 AM

Another quick update: the ethanol free gas web site pure-gas.org currently lists 6,310 stations.

All indications are that non-ethanol (E0) fuel is not really on the way out, but rather gaining in popularity. Time will tell.

RG
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 9:15:58 AM

I said: "Maybe changes made to the MSL by members need to be accomplished by submitting their password and recorded somewhere on the page with username and time stamp?"

My mistake. This procedure is already in practice. If a member alters the MSL it is so indicated in the history of changes.

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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 7:20:52 AM

kwzh said: "I worry that the fix might leave us in a situation where bogus prices are still being reported, but they're no longer easily detectable."

Yeah, I can see your point. As long as the MSL is open for input and modification anonymously, there will probably still be malicious people who tamper with the data fields. Maybe changes made to the MSL by members need to be accomplished by submitting their password and recorded somewhere on the page with username and time stamp?

We have strayed a bit off-topic here; however, the OP is about altering the MSL to include a fuel type that is not currently offered. One thing is certain, the practice of entering manufactured prices for grades of fuel that don't exist by drive by mobile app users could be largely curtailed. If the input fields are greyed out and inaccessible, people interested in acquiring award points have to play the game eleswhere.

With all due respect, I hope we'll get some feedback from someone here who will provide some hard data, or at least links to information, that will substantiate the notion that non-ethanol fuels are on the way out.

Thanks for the discussion,

RG
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 6:19:13 AM

I worry that the fix might leave us in a situation where bogus prices are still being reported, but they're no longer easily detectable.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 2:49:44 AM


Don, I hope you get back to this forum so you can address this issue —

It is sort of off topic but it has been discussed here a lot regardless. Why can’t GB move forward with tying price posting to the grades of fuel checked in the MSL? This has been talked about for at least a year. There are a lot of false prices posted for various products not sold by some stations. Why is GB willing to tolerate this? Is the programming required to fix it that daunting? IMO preventing as many fraudulent price posts as possible should be a top priority for GB. Please talk to us about this.

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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 2:26:31 AM

I have been one to report that Pure-Gas.org tends to be unreliable. I took a look at the Virginia list this evening and I must say it has changed a lot since I last looked. I fixed a couple of small errors and added a couple of stations and have a couple more to add. It all looks pretty good in the areas that I am familiar with. There are currently 239 stations listed in VA and 6291 for the site overall.

I must take exception to the comments posted here by Moderators Don and PD to the effect that E0 is on its way out. On the contrary, more and more stations are offering it, sometimes at a higher price but sometimes for the same price as E10. People are getting increasingly pissed about the lower gas mileage and greater maintenance issues associated with ethanol, especially the new E15 nonsense. If we could get some good news coverage on the problems with ethanol we might be able to get these mandates lifted, at least in some areas. GasBuddy could help by making it possible to post E0 prices and by keeping the issue up in the news instead of acting like E0 is somehow obsolete. As Rich asked Don (a couple of posts below), if you think E0 is going away, give us the evidence.

One thing I do not like about Pure-Gas is that marinas are listed along with regular gas stations. Generally you cannot get your car to the pumps at a marina. I have no problem with marinas being listed but they should be color coded or marked in some way if they are inaccessible to road vehicles.

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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2013 4:08:21 PM

On another forum SCOUTMASTER posted a link that allows you to change quite a bit about what a station offers, including Red Diesel. Check it out and then come back to this forum and address the parts we are unable to affect so that GasBuddy may be able too.

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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 1:19:40 PM

I would like to see the addition of Red Diesel fuel as well as the opportunity to show cash prices verses credit card prices. On my regular routes I have 4 gas stations that post both Cash Price, and then below it, Non-Cash Price. I have noticed that the price posted by gas buddy members is always the Cash price yet VERY few people spend cash on gas as it causes the "inconvenience" of going inside the store and having Cash on hand. It also is noted that these gas stations Cash price is equal too or within pennies of regular stations that do not require payment inside with Cash. These types of permanent notes or ability to adapt a station would help accuracy for all users.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 12:49:20 PM

Good afternoon Don,

Thanks for the response. Would you mind elaborating on this statement:

"Unfortunately E-0 will one day become a rare fuel, because of renewable fuel standards, fewer stations may sell E-0 gasoline in the future."

So far, I haven't been able to find any information to corroborate this. Can you please point us to the data that indicates a future decline of ethanol free fuels? Frankly, without benefit of supporting facts, this seems like speculation. I asked PD this same question when he posted a similar statement, but he apparently never got back to the discussion to respond. I would appreciate access to any information you can provide.

The problem with using the comment line is currently being discussed elsewhere, but I think it is prudent to repeat it here. At present, any comment entered by a member is erased by the very next person reporting a price, so even if a minority of attentive members do use the comment line, their input is summarily discarded by default when the next reporter enters a price. The comment line, as it currently functions, is therefore essentially useless as a means to communicate anything but temporary info.

Thanks in advance for the discussion.

Happy New Year,

RG

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Don
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Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 11:03:23 AM

We hope to one day accommodate the various different kinds of ethanol blends (or lack there of) in the future, however, currently only display the three main grades of gasoline and diesel fuel.

E-0 is considered a specialty fuel in some areas, the same as bio diesel or race fuel etc, for the time being, feel free to include "ethanol free" in the comments field of your price postings if the station happens to sell ethanol free gasoline.

Unfortunately E-0 will one day become a rare fuel, because of renewable fuel standards, fewer stations may sell E-0 gasoline in the future.

Even though pure-gas.org's database is increasing, this does not necessarily mean that we will opt into modifying our system to accompany ethanol/free designations, or that E-0 is becoming increasing popular.

Thank you for your suggestion, I can assure you this and similar suggestions have been forwarded to the development team for further review.

-Don
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 6:29:39 AM

Hi TxJeans,

I would agree that there is probably a certain amount of inaccuracy with pure-gas.org inasmuch as it consists primarily of volunteer input; although, this is essentially how GasBuddy works as well. Isn't a certain amount of inaccuracy to be anticipated?

I'm sure that some of the same people who report diesel prices where they ain't will likely do the same with non-ethanol fuels; however, the people searching for this type of gas are certainly more passionate about their reporting since it is a product that they are interested in and actively looking for, and not a game for accumulating award points.

My bet is that pure-gas.org is likely more accurate than GB for the above reasons.

Merry Christmas to you.

RG
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 8:29:02 PM

However, when I looked, it seemed like some stations are no longer in the business but are not removed.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 9:01:05 AM

The upward trend continues:

The ethanol-free gas station web site pure-gas.org currently lists 6181 stations selling non-ethanol fuel. This is up 222 stations since Alex9990's post on December 7th. This is a pretty big jump...must be more people aware and reporting.

In any case, this is a significant and growing percentage of the overall number of gas stations nationally. Let's hope management will rethink listing these stations here on GB so that folks who want to find ethanol free fuel grades can do so.

RG
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 11:44:19 AM

I've only ever seen one ethanol free gas station (or at least one that advertised as such).
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:41:37 PM

As for RichWLIN: 5959 as of 11:30 pm tonight... up 61 stations.

For reference I've gotten E-0 at the station in Fernandina Beach, Yulee, and three of the stations listed in Jacksonville, Two Gate's and the BP on Timuquana Rd. (All of these are in FL and have 89 octane).

The station in Fernandina took out all of their older rectangular card reading island pumps and replaced them with more modern smaller pumps and added an E-0 selection on one pump and diesel on another. The Yulee Gate Station converted a slightly used E-85 (E-85???? They must've been thinking people would get E-85 for their vehicles) for an E-0 pump. All of the other Gate stations and the BP have above ground E-0 tanks next to their E-0 pumps.

So, the list is accurate as can be. I've also verified a Gate Fleet Station that has E-0 and can attest to no public sales, so at least the stations listed do have E-0.

Most of the signage at the Gate stations have a blue sign underneath the price posting for regular that says "ETHANOL-FREE".

[Edited by: Alex9990 at 12/7/2012 11:45:16 PM EST]
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 9:09:46 AM

Update: the ethanol-free gas station web site pure-gas.org has 5898 stations listed today, up 16 additional stations from the 5882 listed on September 30th.

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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:28:10 PM

Crapulent, thanks for the info. I wasn't aware that this was state law. I'll have to pay attention again the next time I'm at the pump. The last time I noticed these disclaimers was in southern Indiana and at Marathon stations, but I don't buy there any more.

More later,

RG
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2012 11:45:27 PM

Rich, FYI ethanol labeling is a state law and most states do require a label for ethanol content, but California is one of a dozen that let it off the hook (not required by law). Actually Indiana is another, so any labels you see are voluntary. The others that do not require a label are Ohio, New Jersey, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada and New Hampshire, plus the District of Columbia.
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2012 11:55:33 AM

Has this gone anywhere? There are plenty of places around here that sell non-ethanol, but I hate having to jump between Pure-Gas's app, Gas Buddy, and my nav app to get where I want to go and check prices. And as far as being boutique -- it's a little more expensive but I see better mileage with it -- enough to cover the cost difference.

[Edited by: Geardriven at 10/13/2012 11:57:10 AM EST]
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 4:18:25 AM

I misspoke -- it's entirely possible that it is displayed on the pump. I haven't had any reason to look for it.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 10:24:38 AM

The stations carrying non-ethanol here locally have this displayed prominently on the pump but not on the street signage, so in many cases you have to actually enter the station to find out if non-ethanol is carried or not. At least this is how it is at the few stations I have observed in Indiana. It is for this reason that a selection for non-ethanol in the MSL would benefit those who would prefer to purchase this kind of fuel.

With regard to fuels containing ethanol, this really isn't advertised anywhere I've been either (unless we're talking about E85). You have to read the fine print on the pump where most just have a statement, and I'm paraphrasing, "this product may contain up to 10% ethanol". I thought that this was a federal requirement since I've seen the same statement on pumps in many adjoining states, but apparently this isn't so if the disclosure isn't required in California.

RG

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kwzh
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 6:54:19 AM

I haven't checked the site, myself. What I was thinking was that although anyone can do a spot check on the prices here at GasBuddy simply by comparing the posted price to what the station is advertising on the sign, it would be somewhat harder to do that for ethanol content, which often isn't displayed anywhere at the station (at least here in California), let alone out on the pricing sign.
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 10:04:36 PM

I love this fuel.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:27:54 PM

kwzh asked: "Is there any way to spot-check the accuracy of that site?"

Sure, all you need is a bunch of people watching gas prices in their area. Ought to be able to find someone like that around here. Here is another
topic where folks are discussing this.

I don't have many stations selling non-ethanol in my area, but those that are listed here and in my travels have been accurate so far.

Personally, I don't have any reason to believe that pure-gas.org is any less reliable than GasBuddy. It functions essentially the same way using volunteer reporters. If anything, it may be more reliable since the folks that are reporting are keenly interested in acquiring gas that doesn't contain ethanol, and because there are no award points being issued for participation.


[Edited by: RichWLIN at 10/3/2012 7:30:58 PM EST]
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 12:36:04 AM

Is there any way to spot-check the accuracy of that site?
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 7:56:52 AM

Update: the ethanol-free gas station web site pure-gas.org has 5882 stations listed today, up 40 additional stations from the 5842 listed on September 18th.

The trend of listing additional stations that sell non-ethanol fuel seems to still be heading upward.

[Edited by: RichWLIN at 9/30/2012 7:57:50 AM EST]
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 7:31:20 AM

If you're in an EPA nonattainment area (like Houston) all the fuel you get contains 10% ethanol. I only see E-0 when I'm out on the road outside of urban areas.
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2012 11:24:17 AM

Update: the ethanol-free gas station web site pure-gas.org has 5842 stations listed today, up 50 additional stations from the 5792 listed on September 6th.



[Edited by: RichWLIN at 9/18/2012 11:29:20 AM EST]
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taturbo
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2012 1:05:13 PM

RichWlin,
I was able to get to a Hy-Vee in Peru which has two grades of non-ethanol gas. Attendant on duty was unaware of details regarding fuel laws, so will keep checking when I hit some of the places on the non-ethanol list.
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