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dancingcrane

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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2011 1:02:20 PM

With stations misleading drivers by posting their cash or discounted prices on their big signs, it's no fun for either the posters here or the drivers who use credit so don't get the discount.

While sometimes the choice is posting what we see on the big sign or not posting at all, a reminder on the home page to look for the credit price whenever possible could be helpful.
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Michael29644
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2013 11:31:52 PM

"The help/FAQ says that the cash price should be reported but I don't want to contribute to this false advertising gimmick so my intention is to post the credit price with a note that a cash price is available when I feel like putting a comment in."

That is contrary to the guidelines which the moderators have given us. You admit as much. Please abide by the site's guidelines.

"This doesn't seem to be a big programming deal to me."

Probably because you aren't the one doing the programming. I too have asked this topic be closed. It is extremely outdated and misleading to any new member who may read it.

[Edited by: Michael29644 at 6/9/2013 11:32:14 PM EST]
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2013 10:14:55 PM

mcdowelle: Per the FAQs, "When reporting prices for stations in areas that have different prices based on method of payment, we ask that you post the cash price where it exists. If the station does not offer a cash price, the standard price should be reported."

So unless the station sells fuel by credit card only, the cash price should be reported.

I have asked that this long inactive topic be closed.


[Edited by: maxstar at 6/9/2013 10:16:25 PM EST]
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mcdowelle
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2013 9:07:09 PM

I know this is a very old topic but it doesn't seem to have been resolved. I personally don't want to be sucked into a station by the cash price when I pay with credit. I don't carry that kind of cash around with me and I don't want to have to walk into the station to pay to save a few pennies. The cash or credit distinction is not displayed on the listing of stations and the comment is small and obscured in the individual station listing on the app that I use in the car. The help/FAQ says that the cash price should be reported but I don't want to contribute to this false advertising gimmick so my intention is to post the credit price with a note that a cash price is available when I feel like putting a comment in.

Why can't a button indicating cash or credit be included in the app in which price is reported. This doesn't seem to be a big programming deal to me.
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SthTpaLauren
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2011 7:55:36 PM

Thank you for clarifying the best way to list the prices at the pump.
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ambius
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2011 6:50:38 PM

thank you kwzh for clearly pointing out the conundrum created by the shortcomings of the current GB system. I will add to it just a bit.

Even if, hypothetically, every single user properly reported credit price and commented the discounts (or lack of) in the comments field it would still be a real pain for any smart cash users to find a good price because those of us willing to spend cash for a discount can't sort by price to find the best deal. Instead, we must slowly click on every single station to figure out where the lowest price is. And that is in a hypothetically perfect world. In the real world, we never really know which price is reported so both the cash customers and the credit customers get screwed because it is impossible to find the best price even if you are willing to click for the comments of every station. The current system is a real lose-lose.


Although, on topic, at least if every price was reported properly only 1 group of users would be screwed instead of both groups. So, I agree that putting a very clear notice on the home page and also on the report price dialogue box would be a very smart idea for GB to do.
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no1doc
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2011 12:40:15 PM

Hi DC. I miss your input in the "Let's pretend we're looking for truth." forum. As my mentor used to say, "Any fool can ask more questions in one day than a wise man can answer in a life time".
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As to posting discounted gas prices which are cash only, here's what I was told by GM three years ago:
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"Hi no1doc,

Please post the price before the cash discount when possible. Please refer to the FAQ:

http://www.MilwaukeeGasPrices.com/faq.aspx#15

You can still provide the information, but please enter the information within in the Comments field, like this:

(example)

Station Name: Gateway Gas
Address: 123 Main St & Cross St
Comments Field: -5ยข with cash

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The REGULAR PRICE is listed, and the discount information will still show up in the address line for those eligible. Members using the discount will have to do their own math.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Regards,

GM
GasBuddy Organization"
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Seems like good advice so no charge card users are surprised at the pump.

[Edited by: no1doc at 6/27/2011 12:41:56 PM EST]
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2011 1:46:09 AM

GaryG7 writes,
> The real issue is that when you sort the prices, a mix of cash-only prices and credit prices can make a station look cheaper compared to another

If station X is 3.539 while station Y is 3.519 cash / 3.559 credit, then posting Y's cash price makes it look cheaper than X, when (if you're a credit customer) it is not. Likewise, posting Y's credit price makes it look more expensive than X, when (if you're a cash customer) it is not.

The situation is symmetric, and *neither* "post the cash price, with a (+4c credit) comment" nor "post the credit price, with a (-4c cash) comment" is sufficient. We need tools that *know* about the dual pricing.
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GaryG7
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2011 2:01:03 PM

I've had a couple write on my whiteboard claiming that the FAQ supports posting the cash prices. For the record, that's only in the case when the station doesn't post the credit price, but the stations for which these people posted prices I know to include the credit price.

Those that insist on posting the cash prices aren't thinking about others. I pay cash for gas, but understand many people don't. The real issue is that when you sort the prices, a mix of cash-only prices and credit prices can make a station look cheaper compared to another but those that post the cash price don't care.
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ricebike
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2011 5:22:43 AM

i write on those offending posters that post cash price to either say so in the comments section (on their whiteboard)

or have the mods finally have a separate column for cash prices; i don't see stations reverting back to same price= cash or credit= since they can pass the operating costs to the consumer this way

[Edited by: ricebike at 6/26/2011 5:23:05 AM EST]
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2011 5:00:06 PM

A modification of this suggestion to solve the problem is Number Thirty Two.
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20Yoleven
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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2011 12:57:46 PM


This 'bandaid' solution is so simple, it just might work...

C'mon mods--coffee break is over--somebody get on the keyboard!
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2011 9:45:00 PM

kwzh,

That was only an example. Even so, it can be listed in the comments.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2011 9:32:34 PM

Scoutmaster, car wash discounts are irrelevant, as both the current and the prior GasBuddy policy said not to post those as the price. The only difference is in cash vs credit.
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mn_vikings
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2011 1:55:54 PM

putting your favorite gas station on the home page
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jsoko
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2011 2:32:32 AM

2Amy: Policy is to post credit prices. Please do this. If there is a cash discount, put it in the comments i.e. (-4c Cash)

Thanks
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2amy
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2011 4:26:24 PM

Usually I post weather its cash prices or "cash or credit" is the same. If it isnt posted that way I would assume the price is going to be 10 cents more for my visa card.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2011 1:52:58 PM

The only problem with posting the discounted price is not everyone wants a car wash to save a nickel, etc. Posting the credit price with the discount and criteria listed in the comments gives all the information.
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ambius
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2011 1:41:18 PM

I would prefer that GB changed back to the old policy of posting discounted prices so I could actually use their service to find the cheapest gas... but that's a different subject.

on topic: whatever their policy is, I agree that it should be clearly stated in big print on the home page instead of buried in the FAQ that is hard to find and even more tedious to read.
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