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gasfreak1234

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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2011 7:28:53 PM

I think this is a pretty decent idea that most people will agree on. It doesn't make the lazy people who don't want to work for the points to receive them for no work. But I think it would be better if each time you selected a grade of fuel to view prices, there should be a popup or a tab that asks you if you want to view cash or credit prices. For example, I saw a station posted at $3.19 for unleaded, and I knew I was going to be in that part of town, so I went there and I got my credit card ready, then it said $3.19 CASH and $3.29 credit. I went out of my way to get cheap gas that I could've bought at the same price closer to me.
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ebink315
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2011 12:53:12 PM

I could see that being a benefit.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2011 12:07:35 AM

It's already 150, now. And decreasing it the way you suggest would probably do more harm than good, I think. I've already proposed what I think is a better way to enter and score them, in the brainstorming thread.
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DerekS
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2011 3:12:05 PM

Maybe increase the number of prices to 6, not 3.

regular:credit
regular:cash
mid-grade:credit
mid-grade:cash
premium:credit
premium:cash.

If you want to, you could decrease the points awarded from 250 to 150. People would enter more prices but the same number of stations.
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kwzh
Champion Author San Jose

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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2011 1:16:04 AM

igbo writes:
> The botton line: If there is a difference in price between cash and credit, you should state that in the notes section.

Definitely. The issue of whether cash or credit should be default is a minor issue, in comparison -- if you post one of the two prices and don't specify which one it was, that's practically the same as leaving it blank.
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igbo
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2011 11:46:31 AM

I agree that it can be annoying to go to gas station expecting one price and finding another. However, I think the lower cash price should be the default, not credit. If you're looking for the lowest price, you want the lowest price. Period. When there is a difference in price between cash and credit, it's usually the same irrespective of grade. Therefore, when I list a cash price, I also state that it is six cents or whatever more for credit. Also some stations only accept cash.

The botton line: If there is a difference in price between cash and credit, you should state that in the notes section.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2011 12:14:36 AM

You can always ask the moderators to contact them. That seems more likely to get a response, too.
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TH34
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2011 8:27:33 AM

The ability to email a person who is posting prices wrong should be there without necessarily becoming their buddy. Right now the only option is the whiteboard and I don't know how well that works. Some people here seem to ignore it. Of course I don't know if they would check or read their email either.
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kodakNY
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2011 4:34:36 PM

I like the site, but if I can find another similar site that would have the cash/credit price I would go to them .
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jwguts
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2011 1:28:49 PM

The flip side is also true... I often pay cash, and avoid stations with higher reported prices. Later, I find I could have gotten a better price there, except that the credit price was reported on GB.
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LakemontPark
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2011 9:28:02 PM

That's interesting Idea I read something the other day about cash, debit , and credit prices for gas and how much credit card companies make at each $ amount for gas unfortunately in this area there is no options for cash vs credit
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2011 6:37:56 PM

I had one failure today for a few minutes, too. I guess the Photobucket has a hole in it from time to time. TinyURL seems to be doing its job, though.

This lock is topiced.
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buckeyecountry
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2011 10:27:25 PM

Works now. I disabled a feature that now takes me direct to the image
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buckeyecountry
Champion Author Ohio

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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2011 10:17:01 PM

Strange. When the link was posted some time ago, it worked fine with the image showing.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2011 10:08:32 PM

I saw it just fine.

Queue the buckeyecountry must have a virus on his machine rant ...



[Edited by: Scrapheap at 10/22/2011 10:10:26 PM EST]
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buckeyecountry
Champion Author Ohio

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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2011 9:30:58 PM

get this....
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Preview of TinyURL.com/gbccbutton
This TinyURL redirects to:
http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j382/Camp
Kohler/gb_button.jpg

Proceed to this site.
.

Preview of TinyURL.com/renarf
This TinyURL redirects to:
http://texaschainsawhorns.com/listen.html

Proceed to this site.


[Edited by: buckeyecountry at 10/22/2011 9:34:09 PM EST]
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2011 8:33:39 PM

Works for me in from two PCs. Does any shortened URL work for you, say like this one? (Click "I don't have to tell you" for your reward.) Let me know, please.

For those who believe that size matters, http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j382/CampKohler/gb_button.jpg.


[Edited by: CampKohler at 10/22/2011 8:39:20 PM EST]
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buckeyecountry
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2011 8:20:03 PM

CampKohler

your link does not work for me....no image
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2011 7:58:35 PM

Gasfreak gets to wear one of these.
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buckeyecountry
Champion Author Ohio

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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2011 5:25:04 PM

doggod writes,
> So then my comment becomes erroneous

That can not happen. The comment does not carry over to new price post
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2011 2:19:01 AM

doggod writes,
> So then my comment becomes erroneous.

Wait, you're saying that it shows up with the price from the new post and the comment from the old post? Which of the several price-posting mechanisms has that effect?
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doggod
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2011 12:26:32 PM

It's especially annoying because I post the cc price and put "-5ยข/gal for cash" in the comments field, but then someone else comes along later in the day and posts the cash price--which is what is displayed on the big sign--after obviously just driving by and not looking at the pumps. So then my comment becomes erroneous.

This really needs to get fixed!
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2011 1:32:04 PM

Dudleydolittle: There is the official "company" answer, of course. But how do the majority of members in your area report? Greater than 95% report cash prices in my neck of the woods. I think that users would expect uniformity in the gas prices they see reported.

Everyone knows that there will almost certainly be a premium for credit card usage, but beyond that I will leave it up to you to figure out the best thing to do.
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Currency_Pro
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2011 12:21:46 AM

igore it.
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dudleydolittle
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2011 6:43:13 PM

today, i saw a valero that had a cash price and a credit price for the same grade fuel. what do you do with that?
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Viking2MD
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2011 3:13:05 PM

Edjoe,here's the response I got to one of my recent mails to the site admin: "When using the website, the Comments field is currently only shown in the price lists. This is not show in the station info on the maps at this time. We have been looking at developing this for the past little while and will consider making it more of a priority. Thanks for your patience. Regards, CC GasBuddy.com"
I had not seen any comments listed in my area until mine appeared the other day, so I'm hoping that I'll be seeing others posting comments as well. It's very easy to do now, just enter the comment and click on the save button that that appears under the comments field when you enter your comment. Once done this stays on your saved Report Gas Prices list and then shows on area price lists as well as on area maps with gas prices. I hope you are also now able to enter and save these comments.
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edjoe
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2011 6:54:49 AM

E-mail response re: suggestion to show both Cash and Credit Cards Prices from site Admin - FYI

Re: NewYorkStateGasPrices.com feedback - edjoe
From GB Moderator
Sep 26
Hello edjoe,

Thanks for the email and the suggestion, it's appreciated.

Unfortunately there's no time frame we can give for when or if a feature that supports cash/credit will be available. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Currently, when posting prices for stations in areas that have different prices based on method of payment, we ask users to post the price before the cash discount when possible. You can still provide the cash discount information, but please enter that information in the Comments field.

However, if the station does not accept credit cards and ONLY has a cash price - or the cash price is the ONLY price listed on the sign - please post that price but make sure you add a note stating "cash only" or "credit cards not accepted", in the Comments field.

Information entered in the Comments field will be shown on the station details page, below the prices.

Let us know if you have any further questions or problems.Regards,

Brendan (BB)
GasBuddy.com
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Viking2MD
Sophomore Author Maryland

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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2011 11:57:51 PM

I am happy to report that the web site has been upgraded to show cash and credit prices as appropriate. When reporting prices you can use the comments field to note cash discount or other relevant info,and now this can be saved or cancelled. When saved it stays in the system and shows up on your saved stations list, area price search lists, and the area maps with prices! My note in the comments field is usually "-.05 cash discount" or whatever is appropriate. Kudos to the site administrator!
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jen318
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2011 10:48:26 AM

Yes being able to report both the cash and credit prices would be great! I just now learned we're supposed to put the credit price which stinks bc unless I'm desperate I'll make sure I have cash to avoid the extra charge.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2011 1:32:09 AM

edjoe: I think it's better to use the comment field to post the *difference* between cash and credit, rather than the current price itself; the former very often stays the same as the price changes.
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Viking2MD
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2011 9:38:04 PM

I hope edjoe has better luck than I had with the site administrator. It appears that they have been working on the site, but comments posted still do not show on the area price listings for a specific area. Neither does the comment show on the station prices when you look at the detail on the area maps.
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edjoe
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2011 9:58:43 AM

I just e-mailed site Admin to allow the posting of both prices - Cash than Credit. What I have done in the meantime is posted the Credit Price "3.89" and in the comments section listed (as an example) "3.73.9 A Gallon if Paid in Cash" Hopefully the trend will catch on with other active posters !

I also include in the Comments Section, when applicable "Same Price Cash or Credit" which I have found at a Hess Station in my area.
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clubkid
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Message Posted: Sep 22, 2011 8:23:33 AM

sweet
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2011 2:21:14 PM

This idea is far too new to be considered. It should age for 14-22 years, after which it would have had adequate discussion. I say discussion, because it would take another ten years to implement it. Maybe.

Let's not rush into these things precipitously. Let our motto be: "Molasses on a winter day." A real cold one with snow and ice and someone left the refrigerator door open.
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Viking2MD
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2011 4:24:57 PM

I have repeatedly added cash discount amount in the comments field for 3 of the stations that I regularly report. Unfortunately this is currently a waste of time, as it never shows up on the price map or on any of the links one can go to to get station pricing details. (I do all of my entries on my laptop, unlike many of you who have posted comments in this forum. I have yet to see any person's comments appear on the maps to note these differences, so I don't think the mode used to enter details makes any difference.) Per correspondence with the Gas Buddy administrators the system is not yet set up to display these cash vs. credit notations, or any info posted in the comments field. Currently I think the best we can do (which I will begin with my latest entries) is what dlcinnvny suggested in his post on 8/30: "I've been politely asking posters to please list the credit price with the cash discount identified in the comment." The only difference is that until the system is updated there is no point in using the comment field!
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starxpilot
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2011 12:26:01 PM

I have never seen this, must not be done around here, but still, would be a good optional option for it..

Wouldn't apply to my area, and I would see it as an annoyance, unless the option was enabled so the prices are for both, cash and credit.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 16, 2011 2:11:43 PM

If you add the comments in your FSL, when you post via your phone using your FSL, the comments will show up.
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hhval2
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Message Posted: Sep 16, 2011 12:59:07 PM

You got my vote.
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JerBear059
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2011 9:49:30 AM

Having the cash/credit option would be a great addition and would help some people in my area that still put the cash price in the fields, rather than the credit price.
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jjmac10
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2011 9:50:22 PM

I agree. I am a new member and was just going to make the same suggestion. Since I get rebates of 4-5% when using credit cards, I am just interested in the credit price.
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EBR
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2011 10:51:09 AM

Yr absolutely right, ambius!

I've gotten into the habit of using "near me" 'cause it brings the station I'm passing right to the top of the list. Never noticed the absence of a comment box on the faves list. I'd vote in favor of adding that!

I don't do comments (nor even prices) while in motion. But I do update at the next light/stop, and sometimes pull into an empty parking spot long enough to update the last station I passed.
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ambius
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2011 2:08:16 AM

there is no comment box on android app when using favorite station list. that is probably why he said it would be impossible to comment the cash price. now, "impossible" is not completely true because he can access prices through the "near me" feature but that is relatively tedious and dangerous to do while driving.
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all2neat
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2011 12:50:08 PM

I think a cash/member price checkbox would be awesome.
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EBR
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2011 8:20:40 AM

There IS a comments field on the android app as d/l'd from the android market. I'm using V1.26 on my Verizon Motorola Droid 2 Global.

Say I'm looking at a list of stations (having asked it to show stations near me). I tap on the price of a station I want to report on. Up comes a screen with a window for price for each grade. Scroll down in that window and there's a place to override the current time (like to set the posting time back to when you saw the price), followed by a window for comments.

There is also a comments field below the price-input windows on the GasBuddy mobile web site (m.xxxgasprices.com).
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dlcinnvny
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2011 1:25:41 AM

I just corrected a post for a local gas station which has 2.79 (credit) and 2.73 (cash) listed on their sign ... the previous poster listed the price as 2.76 (with no comment)! One way to do it, I guess.

I've been politely asking posters to please list the credit price with the cash discount identified in the comment but one person replied with "Sorry, there is no comments fields on the android app" (with no identification of which "android app" he was using). Have others in this forum heard of such problems, I assume with cell phone apps?
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ambius
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2011 2:16:28 AM

In response to this topic about Durable Comments I had created this image and uploaded it to many stations in my area as the primary photo. It doesn't help much for people using the website, but on the android app the primary photo is shown very clearly so it should help to reduce a lot of errant reports from people who honestly don't know which price to report. (btw, the image is large because GB compresses it when uploading, I tried smaller quality but they became unreadable)

Unfortunately, as I looked for a few stations in my market to show as examples, I could not find any of them. So, some rogue users have been going around and deleting my image without telling me when or why. Whatever, that just means I will have to upload it more often... but I wish they would leave it alone so I could at least remember which stations to be cautious of. Conversely, I was going to create an image that tells people a station has no cash discount so I would always know what price I see when I view that station no matter how lazy the reporter was.

[Edited by: ambius at 7/27/2011 2:21:36 AM EST]
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kccode1
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2011 5:24:32 PM

Or at least have an icon on the bottom in the features area for "may have price break" Or "cash or member price cheaper" something on those lines. Shoot they have ATM or Pay at the Pump Icon. Like there are any stations out there now that don't have pay at the pump.
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guzzlr
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2011 6:58:00 PM

I don't see many people entering that the "cash price is cheaper" in the comments for my stations. I actually see them entering wrong prices. Anyway, I started entering "cash & credit same price" in the comments when appropriate. The comments are not obvious from the price maps, but I figure it is some sort of work-around for now.
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sjambok
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2011 3:05:18 AM

In the Bay Area, there is one chain that posts cash prices.
this same station also adds a .45 surcharge to any purchases with a debit card. They do not accept credit cards.

A number of stations will show both credit and cash prices. It seems to be a trend. I always post the credit prices, when available or not fooled by the switcheroo of showing a prevalent price first (larger, cash) and then a smaller price somewhere else (credit). it's like a marketing ploy to get you into their higher priced station parading as a lower priced station.

I've also seen the stunt about posting a lower price with the small print of "with car wash"

With the way stations advertise pricing, it's going to be very difficult to "make everything work the way we spotters want them to work" I think having a credit and a cash price, separate, would suffice, though, it's not relevant in some areas (Nashville, for example, has hardly any stations that charge one price for cash and another for credit)

Might that also lead to more inaccurate price reporting too?


[Edited by: sjambok at 7/17/2011 3:06:20 AM EST]
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bowler93
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2011 10:11:10 AM

None of the stations in my area charge more for credit, but in my travels, I have seen this. So yeah, I think this would be a good idea to keep people aware of the cash AND credit price so they aren't disappointed.
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jsoko
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2011 2:06:51 AM

Let the mistake makers know of the policies, then you won't have a problem.
Post the credit price with the cash price in the comments!
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