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WKGaser

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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 10:38:43 PM

Consecutive day leaders should be increased from the top 1000 to top
2500 to top 5000. So many posting these days. what does everyone think about this idea.

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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2013 5:11:28 AM

This topic has been reported and should be closed.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2013 8:51:18 PM

This is an old post.

[Edited by: CampKohler at 8/6/2013 8:57:16 PM EST]
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Aug 5, 2013 2:14:35 PM

Other than your being able to see your own name farther down the list, or your being able to scroll down the list of (instead of 1,000) 5,000 to see if you recognize anyone else's name, I can't see any value in making the list any longer unless you (said half-seriously) including everyone on the list.

Maybe what I'm asking is, if the list is 1,000 people long, or 5,000 people long or even 10,000, 20,000 or every member who's ever joined, is there that much ego to see where you're anonymously listed out of thousands?

"...what does everyone think about this idea"? Personally, while I don't think that there's very much change at the top of the list, in part because all it takes is getting on a mobile device - something that wasn't as readily available when the consecutive day leaders list was created - I don't see any value in expanding the list beyond what it is. Not unless you're going to expand it to include all members so everyone can see where their screen name on the list. Just because it used to take X days to get on the list, and now it takes XXX days, doesn't seem to me to a reason to expand the list. Unless you're suggesting that there's that great importance to being somewhere towards the bottom of a longer list than there is to not being included on a short list.

If you can provide a benefit to expanding the list, other than expanding it for the sake of expansion, maybe I'll change my thinking, but right now, I don't see value in the suggestion.
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HailstormCA
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Message Posted: Aug 5, 2013 1:13:52 AM

Sometime after I first started reporting gas prices it only took about 45 days to appear on the Consecutive Days list and right now it takes 215 to get there. Over six months! Maybe it's time to bring the number of members on the list up to the same as other lists, i.e. total points, 30 days, etc.
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Sasquatch2005
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2011 1:49:09 PM

i think it time to icrease the top rankings to aleast top 5000. Itnow takes 93 days to reach the top 4000 wht des every one else think about this idea



[Edited by: Saskwatch at 12/27/2011 1:49:50 PM EST]
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lwren1367
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2011 5:20:18 PM

When I first joined the site (four years ago) it only took 7 months to make the top 1000 list in Consecutive Days, If that is any indication on how the site has grown.
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2011 2:25:16 PM

I'd be fine with them adding another page now, but the latest they should do it would be when the number of days it takes to miss the list reaches 90.

The list was expanded from a single page to 4 pages back in April of 2010. Back then, I posted in our local CDL thread that, "The top 4000 cutoff takes just 28 days. Another great site improvement!"

So in about a year and a half, the number of days it takes to make the last page of the CDL has increased 42 days -- from 4 full weeks to 10 -- though I'd guess that more drop off at the earlier levels, so it won't be long until we hit 90.

I've made progress updates ever since, sometimes every 5 days, sometimes going 15, here. You have to ignore nearly everyone else who has posted on the viewable pages to get back to April 28, 2010. I'm off to unignore a bunch of folks!
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WKGaser
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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2011 1:02:14 AM

now 70 days
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WKGaser
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2011 11:35:54 PM

69 DAYS to make the top 4000 increase to top 5000
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Sasquatch2005
Champion Author British Columbia

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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2011 9:43:52 PM

i have to agree with wkgaser should increase the consutive leaders to top 5000.
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aoklman
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2011 9:57:09 AM

RichWLIN, there are no points or other benefits for consecutive days of posting (other than the stripes added to your car at 90/+ days), the counter and the stripes are the only recognition of CDs.

[Edited by: aoklman at 9/14/2011 9:59:40 AM EST]
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2011 8:27:27 AM

Scoutmaster likes to argue. It is his idea of fun.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2011 7:41:47 AM

An I was pointing out, for me, no incentive is necessary.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2011 7:34:00 AM

scoutmaster: For the record, I didn't say that there needed to be an incentive. I was merely curious.

You seem to be pressing me for some reason? Is that what you mean by fun?

RG
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2011 7:26:52 AM

Why does there need to be an incentive? I post numerous prices and messages every day. Why? Because posting prices helps everyone find the best price and posting messages is fun!
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2011 7:11:38 AM

I was just wondering if, for instance, there was some incentive for posting consecutively at some benchmark. There seem to be quite a few people posting every day without fail and obviously this takes some effort to accomplish.

RG
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2011 10:18:07 AM

"Are any points awarded for consecutive day posting?"

No. You only get points for posting stations, in the forums and reading the news articles.
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2011 10:16:48 AM

RichWLIN, just to clarify Scrapheap's comment, the most you can ever get from posting prices and messages and reading articles is 975 points any given day, and once a week (Sunday to Saturday) you can get 100 for voting in the poll. You get 100 points the day you join (that's the only time you get points just for logging in) and you can get how ever many points are awarded for inviting others to join if and when you do that.

So Scrapheap is saying, most profoundly, that if you do something -- anything -- to generate a consecutive day, you end up with points that you wouldn't have scored had you skipped posting at all that day.

[Edited by: SUVFan at 9/13/2011 10:17:57 AM EST]
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2011 8:56:16 AM

Yes, you get the points you wouldn't get if you didn't post.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2011 8:36:47 AM

Are any points awarded for consecutive day posting?
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clubkid
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2011 9:41:01 AM

i agree with last poster..no change needed
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buckeyecountry
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2011 1:33:52 PM

No change needed
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2011 11:34:11 AM

I'd like to see a local CDL, which would take away some of the need for an expanded national one. Currently, the national points list takes almost a half million points for 10,000th place. And unlike the CDL, that will only go up. But the local points lists let those who care know plenty about where the stand.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2011 10:13:50 AM

Consecutive days means nothing!
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2011 12:41:02 AM


By “upgrade” I assume you mean add more pages to the list. Why? You can make it onto the list now with only 62 days, so those near the bottom have not even earned their stripes yet. Four pages for the CDL is plenty for the time being.
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WKGaser
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2011 12:22:12 AM

time to upgrade again take 60 days to reach the top 4000 ranking list



[Edited by: WKGaser at 9/6/2011 12:23:00 AM EST]
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bladecutter
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2010 8:13:29 AM

seems like it is ok right now.
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2010 9:31:44 AM

I'm sure they will expand the list again once (if?) the required number of days climbs again.

For now, at 4000, with it taking only 28 days to make the list, note that it is possible to make the CDL faster than any of the other lists except the mind numbing 30 day list. Even the local list takes at least 37 days or so if you post max each day.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2010 12:21:52 AM

Sweeteddy, why would you want to see more than 4000 members listed? It now takes only 28 days to get your name on the list. That’s a very low hurdle.

It now takes 464 days to make the top 1000. As recently as last summer it took only 360 days for that. When the CDL was first posted in early 2006, everyone with stripes (90 days) was on the top 1000 list.

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sweeteddy
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2010 6:03:50 PM

I would like more people listed
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mapcat
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2010 9:15:51 AM

"Perhaps the longer list will encourage more members to post every day and maintain their ranking."

More than likely, yes. ISTR that the initial CDL included members with fewer than 90 days. It may have been more than that, but it certainly wasn't anywhere near 461.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2010 12:38:27 AM

Consecutive days fall off much more quickly than I estimated. I put in a request to the Mods to extend the CDL to two pages, 2000 names, which I estimated would cover everyone with 250 to 300 days. It turns out to be 161 days currently. Perhaps the longer list will encourage more members to post every day and maintain their ranking.

Current ranking: 1000 = 461 days,   2000 = 161,   3000 = 70,   4000 = 27.
I’m kinda surprised they extended it as far as 4000.

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WKGaser
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Message Posted: Apr 25, 2010 8:11:18 PM

I see they upgrades the consecutive day stats. It only takes 27 day reach the top rankings. Goes to the top 4000 now
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chisel699
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2010 4:11:31 PM

Not sure I like that idea...
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2010 7:38:58 AM

jerry972 - I think you would find that the vast majority of people on the consecutive dasy leader board do post prices consistently every day.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2010 12:38:21 AM

“Trouble is, we have no real way of knowing how many have 90+.”

Extrapolating the available data, which now ends at 461 days, all the way to 90 days would be a real stretch of statistics. A shorter extrapolation, to the 2000th place, has some chance of being meaningful. I estimate that extending the present CDL to two pages would take the cutoff down to between 250 and 300 days. Making the list would remain a significant challenge.

P.S. I agree with Jerry that price posting is more significant than consecutive days as now defined.



[Edited by: jrsva at 4/2/2010 12:40:28 AM EST]
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jerry972
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2010 12:31:39 AM

I mentioned this in another post in another topic recently. I would much rather see recognition given to people who post fuel prices consistently even if it is not every day of the week or month than to someone who clicks on a new article for 500 or 1000 days in a row.
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CrazgsupS
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2010 2:54:01 PM

Champions know best. Though I'm a rookie, I'm curious as to what can be a motivating incentive. Consecutive days recognition could improve. I agree to improve this part of the program. 100 consecutive days (increments, 200, 300, etc) reward would be an energizing.
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WKGaser
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2010 12:20:47 PM

Yes they need to increase the this consecutive day rankings page
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2010 10:27:06 AM

Still just a single page, it now takes 449 days to make the CDL.

Oh, and now in the 981st spot on the CDL, congrats to jrsva for perservering!
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2010 6:15:55 PM

Lwren1367 had proposed, "extending to the top 2000 people is the best solution. I believe not every one would be on it but most would and there would still be some competition to make the list."

That would meet the minimum extension I called for in my most recent post -- one more page. If that would add most who have stripes to the CDL, that would be fine. Trouble is, we have no real way of knowing how many have 90+.

I have confidence that something will be done, just as PDs post from this afternoon in the news thread indicates changes are afoot there as well. It won't be everything that's been suggested, but the suggestions have been all over the map. That kind of approach is likely to be what we see here.
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lwren1367
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2010 1:07:46 PM

Please refer to my post of 11/05/10 for my views on this topic. However,
I do not feel like it will be changed, just like the news will not be changed. so go ahead and post your views, seems like this is now the hot topic since the news has been shot down.
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2010 8:48:21 AM

I finally saw my screen name on the list yesterday -- my 448th straight day.

In my Feb 5, 2009 9:44:04 AM post to the Columbus CDL thread, I said that I was 235 days from making the CDL. That was the day I got my stripes, so then it took 325 days to make it. It took a full four months longer than envisioned.

Now that I've made the CDL, I believe more strongly that it should be expanded, regardless of any tweaking of the meaning of a consecutive day. Even if no changes are made, I don't believe consecutive days are as meaningless as some have posted. Sure, there may be a few members who extend their streak by clicking an article or posting once in jff. I seriously doubt there are many members in the list who do so regularly.

The incentive the CDL creates to come back to this site each day has to impact the number and quality of prices we see here, which is what drew nearly all of us here in the first place.

It is beyond time to expand the CDL by at least one page, though I would still prefer showing any member with stripes until the list reaches 10,000 in length, the same number that appear on the points lists.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2010 2:07:43 AM

CH, your CDs appear in your profile and in the header on every page. :o)

I favor modifying what determines CDs, as indicated in a recent post, but as long as the list continues to exist, it ought to be expanded as WKG suggests. When the list was created, everyone with speed lines was on it. Now it takes nearly 450 days to qualify.

Aside from CDs, it would be nice to have some means to evaluate member activity. One suggestion that is oft repeated is to list the last activity date on each member’s profile. At least one could tell if a member is dormant and for how long.

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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2010 11:04:39 PM

I just passed 2000 consecutive days. Never would have known without the list.

Have a great day, everyone. :)
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WR-INC
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2010 7:48:36 AM

I think kwzh's idea makes more sense than the CDL concept.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2010 2:59:32 AM

I would much prefer just getting rid of the "consecutive days" concept entirely, and perhaps later find some new interpretation for the speed lines. For example, if we used speed lines for anybody who's earned any points at all in the last month, then seeing one on the forum would suggest that we might be wasting our time responding to a thread when the originator isn't stopping in to read it for whatever reason.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2010 12:18:56 AM

I agree that the CDL as it is now is pretty meaningless. Requiring at least one fuel-price post to count CDs is a good idea. I don’t think requiring 5 price posts is such a good idea. That just gives folks more incentive to make up prices to stay on the list. Of course there is no way to stop a determined cheater but I’d stay with one price post per day for the CDL/

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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2010 9:40:33 AM

Rumbleseat, I think that's a good suggestion. Require a price post for the list, or even 5 prices because that is the focal point of the site.

For now though, I'm Sooooooo close:

999 55Russ Cleveland 447
??? SUVFan Columbus 446
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2010 12:39:53 AM

Wow, to turn words back on the member, I guess bytebug didn't have what it takes. LOL!!

That being said, I am still of the opinion this list is the most useless of the leader lists. Who is more valuable, somebody who posts 5 prices a day, 9 days out of 10, consistently, or somebody who logs on once a day and can get credit for a consecutive day by making one post or clicking on one news link? Until the day this list requires an actual price contribution, even one per day, to count consecutive days, it is a poor list. Much better would have been a "consecutive days posting prices" leader board.
We could list the top 100, or the top 98,000, it would still be a suspect list.
That's my 2 cents.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 1/24/2010 12:45:23 AM EST]
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