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ColoradoPapa Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,365 Points:451,315 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 4:57:00 PM Ignore ColoradoPapa Report Abuse This is just a forum where you can get up and express your views about any topic. A place to gripe or vent at times about almost anything.

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ColoradoPapa Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,365 Points:451,315 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 6:56:29 AM Ignore ColoradoPapa Report Abuse The media never has said anything like this: "Liberals With Guns!" [Edited by: ColoradoPapa at 2/2/2013 6:59:19 AM EST]
Zimcity Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:65,352 Points:3,689,585 Joined:Aug 2001	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 10:04:57 AM Ignore Zimcity Report Abuse "What are you going to do when 32 MS-13 gang members surround your home, bust out your windows and start calling you every racial slur in the book (as happened in Compton recently)?" Not live in Compton.
YKnot05 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:22,489 Points:2,383,465 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 9:56:20 AM Ignore YKnot05 Report Abuse Within the past four years, every one of those politicians were voted into their jobs by We the People. What is the true root of our political problems. Without We the People, no gun would ever be fired (sic mobal). Summary: quit blaming everything on other people and things. Society is making the true decisions, not politicians and guns or magazines.
ColoradoPapa Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,365 Points:451,315 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 8:56:18 AM Ignore ColoradoPapa Report Abuse Maybe it's about time the Militia started shooting the politicians.
mobal Champion Author Mobile Posts:5,905 Points:1,163,170 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 7:12:50 PM Ignore mobal Report Abuse The Second Admendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Its about SECURITY, not "hunting".
plastic Champion Author Virginia Posts:46,742 Points:2,835,200 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 5:35:41 AM Ignore plastic Report Abuse What are you going to do when 32 MS-13 gang members surround your home, bust out your windows and start calling you every racial slur in the book (as happened in Compton recently)? I'd want several loaded 30-round magazines! What are you going to do when rioting terrorists ravage your neighborhood? Stop them with your six shooter? Call 911? What will you do to defend yourself against an invading army? How about a modern Gestapo? Oh, you don't think it'll happen? No one thought it'd happen 80 years ago either. We are free because we are well armed. You're smarter than that, gocat. Don't let your liberalism cloud your head. Don't bother responding because I'll probably forget to check back here.
gocatgo Champion Author South Carolina Posts:15,631 Points:2,526,655 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 12:19:34 AM Ignore gocatgo Report Abuse The last time I needed a 20 round magazine was in Vietnam. Any hunter that needs more than a 10 round magazine is probably a lousy shot and shouldn't be allowed to hunt.
mobal Champion Author Mobile Posts:5,905 Points:1,163,170 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 7:26:55 PM Ignore mobal Report Abuse Speaking on how ridiculous gun laws are, I have a solution. If we outlaw birth it would not take long for so called gun violence to go away, maybe 70-80 years. Though guns will still exist.
CelticHeart Champion Author Detroit Posts:138,543 Points:3,162,500 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 7:00:23 PM Ignore CelticHeart Report Abuse Another thing that I am shocked about is the new stand the Boy Scouts of America are now doing. Shameful!!
ColoradoPapa Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,365 Points:451,315 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 6:56:05 PM Ignore ColoradoPapa Report Abuse And, yes, CH, You are absolutally right about cigarettes. I'm glad I quit when I was 33. I'm 83 now.
ColoradoPapa Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,365 Points:451,315 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 6:53:24 PM Ignore ColoradoPapa Report Abuse I agree with you CG. If guns kill so many people, then we had better have a ban on cars. They kill a lot more people than guns. I got my rear end beat off if I screwed up. That's what kids need nowadays. Nothing like giving them a pat on the back hard enough and low enough when they need it.
CGrover Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:32,519 Points:3,163,755 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 11:19:26 AM Ignore CGrover Report Abuse I say people should take responsibility for their actions. give more jobs to people to track how many is spent, like wellfare, to verify it is being used correctly, for people that need it. I think it all comes down to parenting. Both my parents worked, but we still have family life, and chores, and expectations. Chores and homework before playtime, lazy time, do nothing time, whatever it was. So many do not take responsibility anymore. Some one else will do it, someone else will take care of me. What is going to happen when this generation/s reach retirement? Same old saying, guns don't kill people, people kill people. Hmm, it is already illegal to murder someone. But, they think if they make it harder to legally get guns, there will be less murder? Maybe, but it isn't the root of the problem.
CelticHeart Champion Author Detroit Posts:138,543 Points:3,162,500 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 11:01:32 AM Ignore CelticHeart Report Abuse I just want to say how much I hate what cigarettes do to people. My dear hubby smoked for 40 years and has dealt with colorectal cancer, metastatic liver cancer and now his lungs are full of tumors.
mobal Champion Author Mobile Posts:5,905 Points:1,163,170 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 6:40:08 AM Ignore mobal Report Abuse I have heard enough about Lance Armstrong already!
ColoradoPapa Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,365 Points:451,315 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Jan 1, 2013 9:09:10 AM Ignore ColoradoPapa Report Abuse In the last years we have provided direct cash aid to Hamas - 351 M, Libya 1.45 B, Egypt - 397 M, Mexico - 622 M, Russia - 380 M, Haiti - 1.4 B, Jordan - 463 M, Kenya - 816 M, Sudan - 870 M, Nigeria - 456 M, Uganda - 451 M, Congo - 359 M, Ethiopia - 981 M, Pakistan - 2 B, South Afrika - 566 M, Senegal - 698 M, Mozambique - 404 M, Zambia - 331 M, Kazakhstan - 304 M, Iraq - 1.08 B, Tanzania - 554 M, Literally Billions of Dollars and they still hate us!!!! Our retired seniors living on a 'fixed income' receive no aid nor do they get any breaks while our government and religious organizations pour hundreds of billions of $$$$$$'s and tons of food to foreign countries! [Edited by: ColoradoPapa at 1/1/2013 9:11:21 AM EST]
mobal Champion Author Mobile Posts:5,905 Points:1,163,170 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Dec 31, 2012 6:59:52 PM Ignore mobal Report Abuse Here are some points to think about as it appears that we will go off the so called “Fiscal Cliff”. Last week our president approved a raise for congress. He most likely made the decision while on vacation in Hawaii during one of the worst economic crisis in our modern times. This is the same congress that has not been able to pass a budget since 2009. I will have to admit that the house submitted one each year. But the senate has not. The law requires that the Congress pass a budget by April 15th of every year, and yet the Senate hasn’t passed a budget since April 29th of 2009. Hell, they were even late then! Think about this, even as the federal government bailed out banks and nationalized car companies, even as they pushed “cash for clunkers” and passed the biggest government foray into health care since Medicare became law, they’ve been neglecting their most basic responsibility which is managing the budget of the nation. So open up your pocket books, give Caesar what is not his. It appears to me that we as a once powerful nation will be doomed by the greed for power and the greed, laziness and lack of care by the populace.
ColoradoPapa Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,365 Points:451,315 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Dec 24, 2012 8:34:59 AM Ignore ColoradoPapa Report Abuse I'm afraid it all started with WWII. Before the war, only the men went to work. Mother stayed home and raised the family and brought the children up with respect and honesty. When the mothers had to go to work to support the war effort, the children were left mainly on their own with only the influence of each other for guidance. After the war, mothers kept on working for the extra income. Today, it requires both to work in order to make ends meet. So what happens to the kids? Just too much for parents to handle.
mobal Champion Author Mobile Posts:5,905 Points:1,163,170 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 8:30:37 PM Ignore mobal Report Abuse Correct, It Starts At Home!
chocolateflash Champion Author San Diego Posts:14,679 Points:2,682,570 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 7:25:32 PM Ignore chocolateflash Report Abuse If you, honest to God, expect Washington to do anything about guns, drugs, video games, morality or anything else. you will wait until Hell freezes over. The states and local communities must stand up and do something on their own. It's the concept of you actually doing something to make things better and not relying on others to do it for you--the old American way. It's you and me and the other people concerned that will change this country, not President Obama, the senate or the house.
mobal Champion Author Mobile Posts:5,905 Points:1,163,170 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 6:40:33 PM Ignore mobal Report Abuse I keep on seeing here and other places about how violent movies, video games and useless TV are part of the problem. Though this may be so, it will not change. There is a thing called the first amendment in the constitution that will and should allow for this. As there is a second amendment that allows us to own firearms. The bill of rights should not be changed. My thoughts are that we need to hold parents very much more accountable from birth forward until adulthood. For example, I have no problem with my child playing a violent game. I know that I taught them correctly. They understand the difference between real and make believe. Here are a few great movies to think about, The Longest Day, Glory, Saving Private Ryan. They are all violent, but great movies. Should they have not been produces?
bigginTX Champion Author Texas Posts:2,696 Points:335,055 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 5:13:06 PM Ignore bigginTX Report Abuse Ah, you have updated information, Papa. I admit I heard about it not promoting violence in the 70's or 80's. Thank you! Brain washed indeed! Very good way of putting it, sir.
ColoradoPapa Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,365 Points:451,315 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 8:40:57 AM Ignore ColoradoPapa Report Abuse Good quote, Tex. I did hear of a research the other day that DID say the violence on TV, movies and games DOES promote bad behavior. Now if Washington wants to do something about the situation, leave the guns alone. Go after Hollywood, producers of video games and TV networks. Stop the violent influence they are putting out. The kids are getting brain-washed with the crap.
bigginTX Champion Author Texas Posts:2,696 Points:335,055 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 10:00:27 PM Ignore bigginTX Report Abuse Here! Here! It has been said that television and movies do not promote violent behaviors, that such has always been in place. True, violence, thievery, etc. has always existed, but despite what research organizations (paid by TV/movie companies) say, one need only look out the window, listen to elders' memories, read old news clippings, to see that bad behavior has escalated since TV has come into our homes and become the baby sitter for the generations since (and movies have become more violent and glorifying all sorts of naughty things). Drugs are an additional culprit as well as the breakdown of the family. I'm younger than you Papa, but I too enjoy the old movies and shows much more. You and I live in a fortunate time as we can buy or rent CD's to watch them and enjoy again. I generally do not watch much TV at all and do not feel I am missing much. Here's something interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasteland_Speech The Wasteland Speech was a speech given by Federal Communications Commission (FCC) chairman Newton N. Minow to the convention of the National Association of Broadcasters on May 9, 1961::"When television is good, nothing — not the theater, not the magazines or newspapers — nothing is better. But when television is bad, nothing is worse. I invite each of you to sit down in front of your own television set when your station goes on the air and stay there, for a day, without a book, without a magazine, without a newspaper, without a profit and loss sheet or a rating book to distract you. Keep your eyes glued to that set until the station signs off. I can assure you that what you will observe is a vast wasteland. You will see a procession of game shows, formula comedies about totally unbelievable families, blood and thunder, mayhem, violence, sadism, murder, western bad men, western good men, private eyes, gangsters, more violence, and cartoons. And endlessly commercials — many screaming, cajoling, and offending. And most of all, boredom. True, you'll see a few things you will enjoy. But they will be very, very few. And if you think I exaggerate, I only ask you to try it." [Edited by: bigginTX at 12/22/2012 10:06:00 PM EST]
mobal Champion Author Mobile Posts:5,905 Points:1,163,170 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 5:23:35 PM Ignore mobal Report Abuse Link worked fine.
ColoradoPapa Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,365 Points:451,315 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 5:07:13 PM Ignore ColoradoPapa Report Abuse I'll start out about guns! Guns are not the problem. It's the violence on TV and in movies not to mention the video games. Whatever happened to the musicals hollywood used to make? What has happened to shows like Ed Sullivan, Carol Burnett, Bob Hope, Dean Martin and others like them we used to have on TV. "Around the World in Eighty Days", "Flicka", "The Great Race" and many many others were entertaining and not violent. You don't need a bunch of gunfire, cars turning over, blood, choking, etc. to have a good movie. It only promotes more violence. Hollywood, change your direction back to the old days!