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Gemmasoa

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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2012 3:10:08 PM

Suggestions for a newbie??
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majormarket
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 9:36:06 AM

Nope.

The greater probability is that we'll all muddle through so prepping is just a waste of time and resources.
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DNRSVP
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 10:23:16 AM

Thanks for the info mincemeat26.
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mincemeat26
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 12:17:04 AM

The "Base Camp" radio operates on the GMRS and FMRS frequencies. GMRS use requires an FCC license, but when the SHTF, I don't think Big Brother will spend much time monitoring.
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BayleeBuggy
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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2013 11:27:07 PM

I remember using CBs for areas without phones -- not for cars - but they only work if the other people you need to talk to are using one, on the same channel (I think we used 13?) and have it turned on in a place where they can hear it. So they can be useful if a lot of people have agreed on their ground rules - there were maybe a hundred households using them.

We have had two different hand-cranked AM-FM radios. The first had the mainspring come unsprung, but it could probably be repaired. The second one is intact, but the reception has never been as good. So the most reliable one we have now would be the car radio.

A coincidence - we lost power part of the day today, and it was a real nuisance!
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greentre
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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2013 5:21:12 PM

Baylee, Funny! I'm not sure about that Brit taste either. ;-)

Mincemeat, I still have all my old CB stuff (base antenna, mobiles & antennas) I also have several of the GMRS radios. Thinking about updating some of the older stuff.

DNRSVP, I am compiling a list of edible kelps. I will send it to you when I get it done. From what I can gather from my current research is any freshwater growths are most likely toxic. Most saltwater kelp/seaweed is okay but some varieties may cause gastric distress in some individuals.

When you ask about frequencies, do you mean the actual freqs or the channels? Not to intrude on your conversation.
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DNRSVP
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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2013 8:02:12 AM

Greentre-I love the taste of kelp, but have a hard time finding it where I shop. Do you know if there are any plants growing in the shallow waters of the Atlantic Ocean that are toxic? I live near the ocean, but I don't know if everything is eddible.

mincemeat26--I have mobile CB communications, and I am going to add a base radio soon. I have been inquiring about other frequencies. What frequency range does the Base Camp operate on?
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mincemeat26
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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2013 1:44:11 AM

How are folks set up for emergency communications? I just added the Midland "Base Camp" 2-way radio. Not enough power to attract a lot of attention like ham radio might; just 5-watt maximum output, good enough for maybe 20 miles or so. Runs off rechargeable batteries, plus regular batts, plus a hand-cranked dynamo. Receives AM, FM, and NOAA weather radio.
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BayleeBuggy
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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2013 12:31:13 AM

The SO likes the taste, but I don't. He also likes kippers and sour ju-jubes, so I'm not sure if he counts as having N American tastes. His Brit. roots are still pretty strong!
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greentre
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2013 9:25:18 PM

Has anyone out here tried seaweed/kelp as a food source? I know it is popular in Asia and some other countries but has anyone here, with American tastes, tried it.
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BayleeBuggy
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2013 12:21:44 PM

We have also used a Sterysil (Sterisyl?) filter that attaches to the cold-water tap. They DO work in making surface water safe to drink. We tested the filtered vs. unfiltered water, and it did correct the problems. But this unit is separate and once you fill it, there is a lot of water available right away. Both of them need to be cleaned once in a while of guck that collects on the outside of the tubes. The filters can get gouged if you're not careful when handling them, and they might also break. But one video I saw mentioned that the Berkey co. replaced a broken filter with no problem.

Anyway, I agree with mincemeat about well water - I'm glad we have it, but also much happier now knowing that it's better filtered. And no chlorine taste!
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DNRSVP
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2013 9:18:09 AM

Thanks for the info Baylee & mincemeat. I don't feel someone posting info on a product related to prepping, that they have tried and found usefull, is advertising. I have a small 1 liter one for backpacking and bugging out, but a larger one for the house would be a good idea.
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mincemeat26
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2013 12:36:11 AM

Mine is a Katadyn; Swiss-made, I think. It's a three-element reverse osmosis affair. Expensive but long-lasting, for sure; I used one for 18 years before one of the ceramic filters wore out. We were living off well water, and while it looked and tasted good, I could never be sure about what had fallen into the well.
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BayleeBuggy
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2013 12:24:58 AM

Since you ask -- this is not advertising! It's called a Berkey. We got one the next size up, which holds about a gallon of water at a time, and has 2 filters together. There are lots of other videos that show the other sizes, and a company website, of course. We also checked on eBay, but the ones there had different filters, not necessarily as good.

There are styles in clear plastic, but we like the steel -- looks good and keeps the algae growth down. You can also get an extra set of filters that takes out fluorine as well, but we don't need to do that.
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DNRSVP
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2013 7:54:34 AM

What's the brand, Baylee?
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BayleeBuggy
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2013 12:28:43 AM

We just bought a water filter / purifier that's supposed to function very well in extreme conditions, including making swimming pool water taste good. There's a long u-tube video from a prepper guy demonstrating all of the bad sources of water and how this makes them safe. Of course, he doesn't test this himself -- he gets his wife, daughter and daughter-in-law to do that ! Anyway, we don't trust our well water 100%, so this should be very useful.
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greentre
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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 4:04:01 PM

Heard an interesting thought from a declared 'prepper'. If you have homeowners or car insurance, you are a prepper because you are 'preparing' for some type of disaster.

I guess I'm a prepper too. I have a generator, oil lamps, and keep a stock of food. What started all this? 2005. My wife and I moved to the Florida Keys and rode out every hurricane that rolled through there. I've always kept some supplies like oil lamps and a little extra food but Wilma brought the necessity home. No electric for several weeks, brackish water, empty stores and gas stations...

Never again!
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Gemmasoa
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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 2:26:14 PM

Yes, there are definetly quite a few who will become Preyed upon.

Hope ya'll had a good Easter too.
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mincemeat26
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 12:38:59 AM

If you decide to arm yourself against future "situations," make sure your weapons are off the books. Those background checks may sound like a good idea, but they create a national gun registry. It's better that no one knows what you own -- especially those whose goal is to disarm you.
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BayleeBuggy
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 12:35:29 AM

DNR, I'm not denegrating anyone around here, but I have looked a bit on U-tube for information, and seen some of the people posting. There are certainly several who have severe mental problems. And I have the strong feeling that some others are looking forward to having the whole world messed up, just to prove themselves right.

Anyway, I agree with you about Easter!
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DNRSVP
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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 12:21:39 AM

Hope you all have a great Easter weekend.

[Edited by: DNRSVP at 3/30/2013 12:22:53 AM EST]
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DNRSVP
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 12:12:21 AM

Yes. Fall out shelters or other types of bunkers have regained popularity. Actually not a terrible idea.

Yes, there are probably people who's plan is to run into the woods with nothing more than a Bowie knife, (or even a hunting rifle.) Those people probably won't live long. ;)
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BayleeBuggy
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 10:09:54 PM

I have been looking at some of the U-tube videos about preppers and survivalists - there are hundreds, apparently. And I hadn't realized there was even a TV series about it.

So I have realized that there is a lot in common with the current threories and the older strains of fallout-shelter builders and people going into the wilderness with nothing but a bowie knife.
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DNRSVP
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 1:15:30 AM

An interesting quote that sums up why I choose to include firearms in my prep, (and why you may want to, too)

"Armed people are free. No state can control those who have the machinery and the will to resist, no mob can take their liberty and property. And no 220-pound thug can threaten the well-being or dignity of a 110-pound woman who has two pounds of iron to even things out … People who object to weapons aren't abolishing violence, they're begging for rule by brute force, when the biggest, strongest animals among men were always automatically "right." Guns ended that, and a social democracy is a hollow farce without an armed populace to make it work." – L. Neil Smith (from The Probability Broach)
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DNRSVP
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2013 12:54:49 AM

Have a great weekend fellow preppers!
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 8:43:23 PM

i was told today - still another 6+ months on getting my orders filled, not good, not good at all.

store shelf ammo is nearly nonexistant around here
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Gemmasoa
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 11:37:19 AM

Dang DNR - you are the bearer of Not so good news. But you are right!

We are going to look into picking up a 12gauge as that seems to be the only ammo we are able to pick up at this time. At least it would be a back-up.
Starting to even have a hard time to find primers for re-loads. But we have just started looking as several of us are getting together to work on this.
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DNRSVP
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 9:16:43 AM

I've got this one except in Multicam.
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:08:10 AM

dont forget the kev vests
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DNRSVP
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 10:47:34 PM

Gemma-- Sorry. I'm good at that. Just when you think you have a handle on your prep, someone gives you something else to consider. ;)
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DNRSVP
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 10:46:11 PM

JD- I would not expect the prices of ammo or firearms to correct lower any time soon. I am a used gun buyer for one of the largest single location sporting goods stores in the nation,(180,000 square feet,)so I have a bit of an insider's prospective. I don't know everything, and can't really predict when this will all calm down, but it won't be any time soon.

For things to return to some sort of normal, people have to feel comfortable that they will be able to walk into a store at any given time, and buy the ammo they want. Not necessarily the specific brand, but at least the caliber. Until that happens people will continue to buy all they can get when they see it. --Think about it. If you have spent the last month looking for a particular caliber of ammo, have checked 10 different stores regularly, only to be told there is none, when you finally find some in the 11th store, that might have just got a shipment in, you don't just buy the two boxes you would have in the past. You buy all you can, because you don't know when you will be able to find more. Also, firearms sales have grown exponentially, with new buyers and old flocking to stores to buy. All those new guns need ammo.

The firearms buying frenzy will continue, relatively unabated for quite some time. Maybe not to the same level it was the last two weeks of December, but the frenzy will continue. It isn't just "black guns" that people are buying. Normally, this time of year, I have a glut of used lever action guns, Marlin 30-30's, Winchester '94's and the like. People trade them in after hunting season, and we normally have a bunch until the next hunting season comes around. We would normally have maybe 50-60. We had SEVEN when I left work tonight. There is a decent chance the rest will sell this weekend. What that means is, I won't be able to find enough to meet a normal demand this fall, much less any kind of uptick in sales. --Another example, I've been searching many distributors for Mosin Nagant 91/30's. That's a old Russian bolt action rifle designed in the late 1800's and used by them in WWI and II. It certianly isn't a high capacity assault rifle, by any stretch. There were 14.8 million built, with huge numbers imported as surplus to the USA. With the exception of special sniper versions selling at 5 times the cost, I cannot even find one at any of my regular distributors. The feeding frenzy for AK-47 types, won't slow down, if people can't even find old Russian bolt guns.

Sorry for all the bad news. You mentioned buying at cost. Do you work in the industry, too?

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Gemmasoa
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 12:22:02 PM

DNR: Thanks - you have given me several more things to "think" about!!
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 8:10:30 AM

Not really, but would you say if you were?
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2013 8:08:12 AM

I still cannot get any variety of ammuniton, not only are most all of the retailers around here sold out with sign posted saying- 4 to 6 months wait on ammo, but I can't even buy ammo at cost for what retail prices were 2 months ago. Most cost/resale prices have gone up nearly 3 times in price from last October.

I keep hearing that both guns and ammo prices will trend down some in the next 2-3 weeks, but it sure doesn't appear that way.
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DNRSVP
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 9:54:01 PM

Hi Baylee. Thanks for all the tips. I absolutely agree with you that after the meltdown, there are lots of ways to keep from having to run the generator for long periods of time.
-I have lots of candles, flashlights, oil lanterns/oil etc, for light. So much so that I probably don't want my house THAT well lit, as it would be too much of a beacon.
-I have a chest freezer that, with extra blankets added for insulation, will keep things cold indefinitely, if only run for a couple hours per day, as you suggest.
-I can draw water from my well once a day, or when the generator is running, and I have multiple sources for cooking.
-I even have a couple solar panels which give me 180 watts at 13.8v/dc. That's enough to provide several LED lights, recharge cell phones and iPads, or recharge a marine battery to power a small inverter for an hour or two.

My big problem is in the winter. Keeping the house warm enough to live, and not have the pipes freeze takes a lot of energy. I have a propane fired furnace, a propane fireplace, (as well as a propane tankless hot water.) The fireplace will run without electricity, and is rated at 30,000 BTU's. It would provide enough heat to maintain the parts of the house that have water pipes enough so the pipes wouldn't freeze, and provide a decent level of warmth.

There is a wood stove in the garage, which could be moved into the house as a backup in a long term emergency.

In survival mode, I could last a very long time with the gasoline I have, burning it sparingly in the generator. What I am looking for is not so much plan for TEOTWAWKI, but a better plan for anIce Storm '98 scenario. Parts of Maine and Canada were without power for nearly a month, and with so many trees and power lines down, it was weeks before travel to/from some areas was possible.

I'll sit huddled in a 13° celsius house if the zombie apocalypse hits, but for more temporary emergencies, I would like to be more comfortable. I would like to have the house warm, as well as the other comforts like TV and internet, and everything else I plug in.

I currently have 2-325 gallon propane tanks, and I am seriously considering installing a 1000 gallon underground tank. I also have 2-100 pound portable tanks and several 20 pound tanks.

Propane is so much easier to store than gasoline, which is one of the reasons I am thinking to go dual-fuel. Having more than one option is another big consideration.

The other big reason was stated, but not very well, in my previous post. Every time there is a hurricane, ice storm, blizzard, or some other disaster, people flock to the gas pumps, always causing long lines, and often causing shortages. That's never been the case at the propane filling stations. I think I would rather be in the shorter line, and keep the gasoline for transportation and to power things like snow blowers and chain saws.

I'm wondering if anyone has installed one of the conversions to a gasoline generator, and if so, how well it works.
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BayleeBuggy
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 7:36:01 PM

DNR, there are dozens of videos on youtube from people who have RVs with solar panels, etc. and complex methods of using power off grid. There are so many options around that you can probably find a perfect fit with what you want to do.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 11:30:43 PM

Nope
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BayleeBuggy
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 11:22:41 PM

DNR, there should be ways to avoid running the generator full-time -- freezers can be insulated and will last days if kept closed; fridges can be emptied into freezers. In the winter, you can move food outside or rotate jugs of water from outside - let them freeze, then let them warm up in your fridge, while re-freezing the next batch to switch for them. There are also fridges that can run on hydro, 12-volt or 120, or propane. That sounds more efficient than using propane to power a generator to produce the hydro to run the fridge.

There are also old fridges - Servel was one brand - that ran on kerosene. You may be able to find one around somewhere still.

Anyway, if you have to run a pump, you can draw off water while the pump is running, charge batteries while the generator is on, use candles or lamps for lighting, propane or Coleman stove, etc. That way a few hours of having the generator on should be enough for the whole day.
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2013 12:46:22 PM

A light dusting of snow now and again to spot check my prep. (We got 30.9" officially.)

The only thing I needed to run out to the store for was some over the counter cough medicine. Somehow missed that in my prep. I have prescription medications in reserve, and a couple over-the-counter meds like Asprin and Ibuprofen, but didn't have cold medicine. Probably because I almost never get sick, but I did have a cold this time.

Although I keep 100 gallons of gasoline on hand for the generator, that is only a week supply, if I run the generator continuously. During any emergency, there is always a run on gas. I am still thinking of installing a conversion to allow the generator to run on propane and gasoline. Has anyone done this? Tips?
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BayleeBuggy
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 12:56:25 PM

Mincemeat, thanks for your concern, but my point is that there is that no one around us needs a gun, because no one around us has a gun. We can concentrate on combatting winter weather and other real problems.
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 6:26:46 AM

dang, we need to go thru our dated prep food and cycle it
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 12:24:44 AM

maybe
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mincemeat26
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 12:17:01 AM

BB, it might not be a good idea to advertise your decision.
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BayleeBuggy
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 11:25:07 PM

I do have a major disagreement with some of the philosophy that others on this topic espouse. No, we do not have guns. No, we do not plan to get guns. No, we would not feel "safer" if we had guns.

Yes, we want to have a good stock of food - people and animals - and ways to keep warm and safe. No, we don't need guns to accomplish that.
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Gemmasoa
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2013 9:00:18 AM

absolutley Freedom ....

even for when the Hurricane winds hit.
We had no power for a week in Sept 2007 from Hurricane Ike winds.
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 2:27:55 PM

I'm trying to have a 3 month food supply
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Gemmasoa
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 10:50:19 AM

JD {evil laugh} That's a good one!
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gravie314
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 7:36:24 AM

lulz! i'm a prepper!
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jerryjanes
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 6:45:44 AM

Oopppps - I'm not a prepper, but I'm a Pepper. Wouldn't you like to be a pepper too?
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jerryjanes
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 6:45:08 AM

I'm a prepper, but I'm a Pepper. Wouldn't you like to be a pepper too?
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jdhelm
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 6:18:55 AM

Ruger is coming out with a new pistol in honor of Obama. It will be called the "Union Worker." It doesn't work and you can't fire it.
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