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zippylady

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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2005 3:00:05 PM

In this age of Debit cards and Credit cards, do you still carry cash??

I use credit cards for most purchases but I still carry a little cash
for small purchases like a drink or lottery tickets.

My grown kids never carry cash..for anything, they use debit cards.

What about you??? Is cash nearly dead??
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Toadman7
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2014 12:57:56 PM

Sometimes I do. I normally use my debit card
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santa_banta
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2014 10:35:31 AM

little bit
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taxguy
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2014 10:28:38 AM

cash reduces the chances of credit card theft
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cltncguy
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2014 7:32:51 AM

Yes, always need a few bucks in my pocket
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outlaw329
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2014 8:24:04 PM

Yes, why wouldn't you?
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gas_phil
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2014 5:22:15 PM

yes
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taxguy
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2014 10:38:49 AM

yes, generally about $20.00
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Mizzer1
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2014 10:37:51 AM

Yes
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jimbobsmith95
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2014 9:43:04 AM

yes
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marcelpr
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2014 9:32:43 AM

Yes--I'm getting read to go to the bank right now to get some..
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PAplott
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2014 7:30:29 AM

No because my wife has it all! :/
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R209
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2014 1:59:11 AM

always
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roadrunner7669
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2014 9:19:18 AM

always
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cltncguy
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2014 9:11:47 AM

always gotta have small amount
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probedjg2013
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2014 8:40:31 AM

yes just in case of a emergency
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ragerunner
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2014 7:20:43 AM

yes very little
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leemun
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2013 9:10:25 PM

Hemond, they are coming for you sooner or later.
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leemun
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2013 9:06:01 PM

Yeah, the pop machine doesn't take credit cards, though the parking meters do.
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Mel5253
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2013 8:10:12 PM

Yes i do.
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pagbowl
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2013 4:54:58 PM

Yes
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R209
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2013 3:31:39 PM

yes
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olefin
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 6:47:43 PM

Very little cash for seldom have a need for it.
Have used cash award credit cards since 1986, for the last 20 years for all purchases. Never paid a penny in interest but have collected 1000's tax free dollars. :)
Never had a debit card or used an ATM and never will!
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tigerhater
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 2:44:16 PM

yes and I don't have a debit card
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LonghornBubba
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 2:43:28 PM

yes
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thorman52
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 2:17:57 PM

Always carry cash when I have it.
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nichols
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 10:05:15 AM

small amount
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countrychick6
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 11:12:11 PM

yes, always carry a little
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coachandfan
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 10:53:18 PM

yes
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 10:27:54 PM

yes
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buddyro1
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 6:25:02 PM

Not very much, $5 or $10 at most.
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2013 5:33:39 PM

Yes
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 7:50:57 AM

yes
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Grant463
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 7:38:27 AM

A little.
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cv
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 6:36:42 AM

Just enough to keep small purchases off my card.
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Glasman
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2013 6:05:27 AM

do they still print that stuff ?
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Gas4Gore
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2013 11:21:59 PM

Yes
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gas_too_high
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2013 10:56:32 PM

Wow, you're more paranoid than I thought!

GTH
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2013 11:58:45 PM

:::::Hemond, if you want to know more, just Google the phrase "anti-money-laundering".::::


Why? I'm pretty much expert on the subject and could likely write the book. (and I learned a lot from bank tellers informing me of the rules.)

Also, I haven't used Google in years. Much too dangerous. I use anonymous search, thru an anonymous browser, and if truly critical, thru an anonymous proxy.
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gas_too_high
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2013 10:09:49 PM

Hemond, if you want to know more, just Google the phrase "anti-money-laundering". And reflect on this: While many are concerned about NSA surveillance on emails and phone calls, other government agencies have had us under financial surveillance that few if anyone are concerned about, because it's "anti-money-laundering".

GTH
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BayleeBuggy
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 11:43:58 PM

I remember going into (or out of?) the US, by plane I think. One of the officials asked how much cash I had, which was uner 100. Apparently they were looking for anyone carrying over $10,000, but I of course burst out laughing at the mere idea of having that much cash around for any reason at all.
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2013 10:19:53 AM

:::::::I think the point is not the period of time as such, but whether or not there is a "purpose of evading or circumventing the mandatory $10,000 reporting law."::::


And how is such a thing defined in the law. does the law you reference specifically state things this way? Looks like another big loophole. And who is going to enforce this? Let alone who is going to find violators? Not to mention that the bank clerk essentially tells you how to avoid the law.


::::::::Not at all. If you account for those cash transactions in our own books and pay applicable income and sales taxes as required, they are not "off the books.":::


Careful, you'll have to address all the millions of illegal border jumpers here who are strictly off the books. Including their businesses and their income. A place where no politico wants to go. Not to mention just about every plumber, electrician, roofer and miscellaneous tradesman. All those businesses both legal and illegal are off the books.

Having 2 sets of "books" is already extremely common, yet the Feds don't seem to be able to address this, if they care. Even if they did care, they have their hands full. And with Obamacare coming in? They will really have their hands full with enforcement.


No my friend, this law is like so many others. Just something in the record and easily danced around.


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gas_too_high
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2013 10:38:48 PM

Hemond: "Plus what is meant by 'multiple withdrawals in a short amount of time'?"

I think the point is not the period of time as such, but whether or not there is a "purpose of evading or circumventing the mandatory $10,000 reporting law."

If you made those withdrawals from different bank branches, you could always say that you didn't think a single branch would have all the cash you needed, or something like that.

"You have confused cash transactions with "off the books" transactions."

Not at all. If you account for those cash transactions in our own books and pay applicable income and sales taxes as required, they are not "off the books."

"In any case, circumventing US tax law is a time honored tradition. It is practiced daily by the biggest US corporations."

There is a difference between "tax avoidance," that is, conducting your business to avoid tax liability, and "tax evasion," that is, deliberately hiding income so as not to pay taxes that are lawfully due.

(BTW, this is a problem I have with the cash "structuring" law. I see little practical difference between conducting your business to avoid tax liability and conducting your business to avoid a currency reporting requirement. But one is legal and the other is not, for no other rationale than the Feds say so).

GTH
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2013 10:05:22 AM

The FBI might like to start informing bank tellers of the law you reference. I first learned about this from a bank teller. If you ask they tell you exactly what you have to do to dance around the scrutiny.

Plus what is meant by 'multiple withdrawals in a short amount of time'?

Is the 'short amount of time' defined? An hour? a day? a week? Like I said, the loopholes are big enough to drive a truck through. In any case, the law of unintended consequences comes into play. People will just use the safe deposit box. No record, no scrutiny.

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gator2002
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2013 2:14:44 AM

Yes
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2013 2:11:17 AM

On Sep 6, 2013 12:27:34 AM, Hemond wrote:

>Are you saying it is a jailable offense to legally withdraw your own funds
>from your own bank?

Yes. Structuring money deposits or withdrawals to circumvent reporting requirements is a felony that can result in civil and criminal penalties, as well as result in asset forfeiture. The term is defined in the Treasury Department's Recordkeeping and Reporting regulation 31 Code of Federal Regulation 103.11(gg), which makes it illegal for individuals or groups to structure financial transactions, at one or more banking institutions, for the purpose of evading or circumventing the mandatory $10,000 reporting law.

>If US law says $10,000 is the cut off point for scrutiny,
>then why do you claim it is a felony to withdraw less than that?

It's a violation of Federal criminal law to do multiple smaller withdrawals in a short period of time that add up to more than $10,000.

>The Feds should revisit their laws as the loopholes are big enough to drive
>a bus through.

Here's a comment from the FBI Web site:

Federal law requires all financial institutions to file a currency transaction report (CTR) for currency transactions that exceed $10,000. To evade the filing of a CTR, individuals will often structure their currency transactions so that no single transaction exceeds $10,000. Structuring involves the repeated depositing or withdrawal of amounts of cash less than the $10,000 limit, or the splitting of a cash transaction that exceeds $10,000 into smaller cash transactions in an effort to avoid the reporting requirements. Even if the deposited funds are derived from a legitimate means, financial transactions conducted in this manner are still in violation of federal criminal law.
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2013 2:00:36 AM

I keep two $20 bills plus whatever paper money is left from the last time I broke a $20. When I go on vacation, I take five $20 bills plus whatever paper money is left from the last time I broke a $20. I put loose change in a piggy bank that sits on the bottom shelf of the living room bookcase. Every few months, the piggy bank gets taken to the bank as they have a free coin counter for their customers.
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2013 1:27:34 AM

:::::And technically, what you did, "structuring" withdrawals to avoid currency reporting, is itself a Federal offense, with fines and jail time.::::


Are you saying it is a jailable offense to legally withdraw your own funds from your own bank? If US law says $10,000 is the cut off point for scrutiny, then why do you claim it is a felony to withdraw less than that? The Feds should revisit their laws as the loopholes are big enough to drive a bus through.
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2013 1:20:17 AM

::::But, having expressed great distaste at how the government invades our financial privacy, I was surprised that you were more nonchalant about private companies (the credit card processors) knowing your spending habits.:::


Mainly because I don't see evidence of them doing anything with the data. The only thing they could do is somehow market me to 3rd parties. I get an occasional credit card offering or insurance offering, but thats about it.

I sure don't see the privacy violations like the data misuse of Google, eBay, Amazon. With any ebay or amazon search, I get instantly inundated with offers. When some evidence is presented that Visa is harming me as Google is, then I'll reconsider. In the meanwhile, I'll enjoy and be grateful for the wealth of financial tools and resources Visa offers me.

These banks and credit outfits have directly helped me get my financial house is order.
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BayleeBuggy
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Message Posted: Sep 5, 2013 11:29:33 PM

I too prefer the anonimity of cash. And my point was not that I would forget about things like lattes - I have never had one, and wouldn't spend my money that way even if I did like them. I have kept track of small purchases in the past, and they weren't excessive. I just like the natural braking mechanism of having no cash to waste - as well, I don't have a cash card. There are now branches of the bank I use open 7 days a week, but I'm not sure that is a good thing at all!
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 5, 2013 11:09:43 PM

QUOTE::::Sure, but since you run a cash business, you had the choice not to put some or all of those funds in the bank in the first place:::


You have confused cash transactions with "off the books" transactions.
Unless you want to claim that US currency is not legal tender for any and all transactions in the US.

In any case, circumventing US tax law is a time honored tradition. It is practiced daily by the biggest US corporations. If Steve Jobs were alive, perhaps he might tell you why the majority of Apple assets are held overseas.

When done talking to Steve ('s ghost) perhaps you could have a chat with Edward Saverin, co-founder of Facebook, and ask why he renounced his US citizenship and moved to Singapore with his $96 billion.

I'll wager that both these cases and the zillions more like them were done to circumvent US tax law. If taxman is not going after these big fish, why would they concern themselves with guppies?

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