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pickles37

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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2005 2:13:08 AM

Here you will find people that desire to loose weight and love to talk about that and lots of other things! Join the fun as we chat away!
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2014 10:29:25 PM

sprays like that can be used, mostly to make the other flavorings stick to the kernels. I am supposed to avoid veggies and other foods that are "gassy", so broccoli, cauliflower, soda, etc... are mostly out of bounds.
Dropped off daughter & s-I-l at O'Hare and they have already made it to Boston, changed planes, and are heading to Fort Lauderdale, due to land in about 10 minutes. tomorrow, they will board the ship for their honeymoon cruise.
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Message Posted: Oct 31, 2014 9:43:16 AM

GB, Can you use the "I can't believe it's not Butter" ZERO calorie spray for your popcorn and veggies?

Remember that most all veggies - broccoli, tomatoes, spinach, celery, lettuce, leaf spinach salad, radish's, cauliflower, (mashed cauliflower w/ low cal fat free gravy), red peppers with mushroom saute, cucumber salad, yellow squash, green beans, Chinese salad, brussels sprouts, cabbage, cilantro, mushrooms, chili peppers, eggplant, squash, zucchini, beets, carrots, turnips, asparagus, grape and yogurt salad are all 40 to 70 calories, apiece. Veggie soup also low in calories.

You should be able to eat and stay very low in calories per day. 3.5 oz of broiled chicken = 140 calories. 3.5 oz of Turkey = 165 calories. (I would have thought turkey would be fewer calories).

The most important thing is to use substitutes for salad dressings in salads to keep the calories down.
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 10:56:39 PM

I am slowly grinding away, almost to 40 lbs lost since April. My unsalted popcorn arrived. It is very bland, but one of my support groups had ideas for things (spices, etc...) to add some flavor, zing, or whatever without adding stuff like sodium, sugar, fats, etc...
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2014 10:02:59 AM

It doesn't really matter a whole lot if someone apologizes as long as YOU know they realize their mistake. Like they say, "happy wife, happy life".

Sometimes we have to bite the bullet and trudge on.

I still haven't started a regimen to lose any weight and even if it is 5#, I'd be happy....if it's permanent.
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 11:24:16 PM

She is not as "cold" to me today, but still won't admit any fault or guilt for what lead to her shouting tirade at me. I did return the cooker & popcorn and I am expecting a case of MICROWAVE popcorn (60 bags) to be delivered Thursday. I know, after being married for over 34 years, not to pursue "being right" too hard. Sometimes you have the choice to be right or be happy. Maybe I am a wimp, but I prefer domestic tranquility and the "happy" option.

By the way--the stress I would experience from pushing an agenda to prove myself to be right is not good for my weight-loss effort. Stress leads to cortisone and cortisone supports fat growth, especially in the abs area.
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 10:28:55 AM

It would have been nice if the wife had asked you if you would like the microwave cooker before purchasing it for you. I hate for anyone to buy me anything unless it's "exactly" what I want. Many times I've returned things, then, I've gone out and bought an alternative product that I wanted. A GPS was one example.
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 11:32:42 PM

She is still cold toward me. We are returning the microwave thingy and the old-fashioned popcorn. I ordered a case of unsalted popcorn online.
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 7:42:05 PM

There you go GB, Chicken and Fish Tucsonhomes said.
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 2:27:14 PM

Chicken and fish
Geez
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 10:16:30 AM

Yep GB, sometimes it's a lose/lose proposition, whichever way you go....

I see that Walmart sells Newman's Own Organics Unsalted microwave popcorn and might be good to try sometime.

Hopefully everything works out fine for both of you and the special cooking container that is used in the microwave can be used for other foods also.
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 12:34:24 AM

Well, the "stuff" hit the fan. Wife came in and saw me eating my last bag of SALTED (but otherwise "light") microwave popcorn. What followed was very hurtful to me, as it was demonstrated to me over and over again how I can "never" do anything right. I told her I was going to sleep on the issue and decide in the morning if I wanted to keep her "solution" to my unsalted popcorn dilemma, but that was turned into, "NO! If it wasn't what you wanted, you should have told me that right away!" Well, excuse me for trying to be sensitive to YOUR feelings, how about you try that on me sometime? I said that I was afraid I would hurt her feelings and was trying to figure out what I wanted to do before telling her what I would do. She turned that into me saying I was afraid of HER, like "a little 2 year old."
As I said below, "It is a trap, a test that I can only fail."
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 11:07:28 PM

My wife special orders some microwave popcorn that you can buy at Costco (we got a case of it when we were shopping there with her sister--a member). She justifies it because it is "THE BEST MICROWAVE POPCORN EVER" and that the shipping costs are less than a membership and to drive to the nearest Costco, which has to be at least 30 mile away, maybe more.

I have been searching in the REGULAR stores for unsalted microwave popcorn and can't find any of it anywhere. I asked wife about it and said she was sure she could find some. SO, when she was going to the store this evening and asked if there was anything I would like her to pick up, I said, "unsalted microwave popcorn". Well, she couldn't find it, but couldn't admit her failure, so she brought home some REGULAR (non-microwave) popcorn in a jar and a special cooking container that will cook regular popcorn in a microwave. NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR! Now, how do I proceed from here? I already went ahead and ordered a case of unsalted microwave popcorn on the internet. I just don't have any intentions of using this contraption! I wanted to be able to just throw a bag of the stuff in the microwave and turn it on, then take it out when its done and eat it. When I am done with the popcorn, just throw the bag away, not have to wash the dad-burn contraption before I can use it again. I just know that she will not accept any reaction I have to this. It is a trap, a test that I can only fail.
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 9:57:01 AM

House is all clean and waiting to pick up the DIL later on. Even the 6 year old was cleaning her room which was a big deal for her.

Good you had a safe trip.
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 11:26:34 PM

Arrived back home safely. What a trip! Granddaughter had a great time though!
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 12:56:47 PM

DIL's in N.Y. and coming back tomorrow (Monday). We're cleaning the house before she gets back to keep her happy. (It always gets messier when she's away...and not from me).

Will pick her up at the airport in late afternoon.
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 12:58:08 AM

Arrived ok about 12:30 am today. will return about noon tomorrow.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 6:49:58 PM

Wow, traveling again huh. Better getting the trips in before the snowy weather starts.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 3:12:16 PM

Leaving this afternoon for Green Bay & granddaughter's 2-year birthday. Will be back Sunday.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 12:09:39 AM

That's great for a successful trip. I'll be heading for blood work tomorrow (Friday) then pick the little one up from school.

I'll have to fit the restaurant in after the 11:15 am blood work as a replenishment for the trouble of traveling the whole distance of 3 miles and not being able to eat beforehand.
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 11:42:14 PM

Trip today went well, doctor visit AND visiting daughter.
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 12:26:11 AM

Yes, you have to trust your doctor or you won't be happy. So far I've been happy with all my doctors.

Looking back though, a couple of my doctor's were young and they were practicing on me at my peril. I won't let that happen again. They moved from the present practice.
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 11:07:24 PM

Well, the docs around here (with few exceptions, like my wife) are all either ready to retire (& not up to date with the latest medicine), unmotivated (except for money, social status, etc...) or foreign-born (and I can't understand their accent). I am going to Peoria for a special weight-loss clinic that will do anything I need to help me lose weight. They have it all, dieticians, physicians of all specialties, exercise specialists (including a full gym, indoor track, pools, etc...), hypnotists, and even surgeons for bariatric surgery, liposuction, and cosmetic/plastic surgery (remove those ugly flaps of skin left after you lose so much weight). Tomorrow, I will be meeting with a psychiatrist. They really cover all the bases and will go as far as I want to go with them.
Our son, who is living with us this year, decided he wanted to come with me tomorrow, especially since I plan to meet up with our daughter (his sister) and her husband for a little while before they have to start their afternoon shift at work and I head back home.
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 5:41:29 AM

Whew, you sure have long distance doctors! My doctors are a maximum of 3 miles away.
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 12:03:33 AM

Another doctor appointment "popped up", so I have to drive to Peoria this Thursday, VERY early, since it is a 2 1/2 - 3 hr drive and the appointment is for 9 am. Will spend a little time with daughter & son-in-law before they start work around noon. Then, after wife is done with work on Friday, we will drive to Green Bay for the weekend, as our granddaughter's second birthday is Sunday.
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 7:51:18 PM

That would be great! I know it won't do it justice, but will be nice to see anyway.
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2014 11:59:06 PM

I will try to find a way to post some videos.
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2014 8:33:53 AM

Much more work than years gone by. Hopefully you post a link to pic's.
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2014 12:18:13 AM

Sounds like it was an impressive show for the times. Now, we have to have the music transmitted by FM radio (there is a sign that tells viewers what frequency to tune to) and everything is computerized. Technology is great, but it is still a lot of work.
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2014 11:47:20 PM

I'm getting tired thinking of all the work you have to do.

I do remember the old days when helping my cousin (next door from us) do all their Christmas stuff. It was great seeing all the cars coming by and seeing the display in the local Buffalo Evening News. I was their electrician and music hookup guy but like I said, it was just a tape recorder in those days.
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2014 11:41:49 PM

I have totally eliminated candy of any kind from my diet. I am determined not to fail at this during the Halloween holiday. I cannot take the left-overs to MY work, since I am retired on disability (20 years now), but my wife is a pediatrician, so the kids at her clinic like when she brings the candy there. I won't even have "sugar free" candies (most have sugar alcohol, which they don't count but I do).

As for the Christmas show, yes, it is neat to have the father/son thing going. Unfortunately, we are limited in what we can set up until the leaves stop falling and the grass stops growing, hopefully another week. Until then, we can only do the aerial lights and stuff on the house. Then we can set up the controller boxes, wireless relays, power lines, and all the ground-mounted lights & figures. Then we configure & test the electronics, before we can start programming all the songs. We have to get all of that done before Thanksgiving.
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2014 9:31:34 AM

Problem with the Halloween candy is...... that's about the only time of the year I consider "free candy" if not given out for Halloween. I don't eat candy otherwise.

We don't normally get any kids for Halloween but buy a little "just in case"

GB, it's great it's a "father and son" thing with the Christmas scene! I love getting in the car and visiting the places we know are extra special.
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2014 9:08:02 AM

If buying Halloween candy; only purchase candy you can't stand. This way you're not tempted to eat it, and take any leftover candy to work after the holiday.
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2014 11:14:52 PM

Son and I did more work on the Christmas decorations today. Lots of people walk for exercise past our house and they stop to talk, but most of them realize how long it takes for me to get everything set up, all the extension cords, etc...., and then testing and programming the show. I think they all appreciate the results.
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2014 9:20:48 AM

The granddaughter and future husband will be holding off their honeymoon for a few months also, for a more convenient time for them.

It's great to have the other granddaughter and 2 year old here. I picked them up yesterday from the airport. Construction was a PITA traveling through mostly all construction to and from the airport.

My neighbor said in NY they could only build one mile per year, as per union rules, even if the state was building the road. It takes forever here, so I would think it's the same.
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2014 11:22:34 PM

Hopefully, my travels will be limited to less than a 50 mile radius, maybe a little more, until the end of the month when our daughter and her husband leave for their honeymoon (just celebrating their first anniversary this week). The will drive here, park their car at our house, and (after a night's rest) I will drive them to O'Hare in Chicago (& I will then drive back). A week later, I will go back to pick them up.
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 12:42:59 AM

I'll be making 6 trips to the airport in these next two weeks. 600 miles picking up and dropping people off at the airport.

For you, it's like going out for a cup of coffee but for me it's like driving to San Francisco.

It'll be great seeing the GD and the two year old great grandson again. I can't wait! He's so cool! Last time he was here, he chest bumped me in the leg many times in a row, showing he's the tougher one of the two of us.

It must be a daddy-son thing he and his daddy does.
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2014 12:18:12 AM

Party!
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2014 12:32:29 PM

Things are getting busy here also. Thursday the bachelorette party, Friday the bachelor party here, and Sunday the wedding. I'm not sure when the wedding practice is. I'm hoping to go to only the wedding and will be here for the bachelor party.
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2014 12:12:40 AM

Actually, it is 2 extra pills to take each day. I hate all those pills and swear I am just going to stop taking any of them!

Going to be getting pretty busy, though. Sunday, we have NFL Football (go Packers,...) Monday I have a class in Peoria (4+ hrs total drive time) and our daughter + son-in-law will be coming from Peoria either Monday night or Tuesday morning to visit and help us out around the house/yard a bit. Probably going to do some Christmas setup. The rest of the week, I have something planned every day, plus all the regular stuff I have to do.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2014 12:07:16 AM

Total congratulations on the 35 pound loss since April.

An extra pill to take, huh. I hate taking pills also but only take 3 a day. I also don't like the glucose pin pricks and the 2 insulin injections a day either.
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2014 8:53:50 PM

Happy for you that the sport coat still fits you and looks good. Hope the wedding goes well.

Had two doctors' appointments. Both went ok, but each want me to take one more pill per day (I hate that) and one wants me to have an exploratory procedure done next month (really don't like THAT). Official weigh in leaves me down 35 lbs down from my max in April.
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2014 9:19:25 AM

Off to see the dentist today then to get a haircut for the wedding the 19th. I'll be glad to get that all over with as there seems to be too much activity around here with the preparations.

No change in people around here as they both will be staying with us as they have been.

I dragged out the sport coat and it still fits me. The last time I wore it was about 5 years ago then perhaps 15 years before that. It still is in style and looks a nice nifty black. Now I have to look for my pants and tie.

This Florida living is so casual that I now also have to get hold of a pair of socks. Last time for socks was about 5 year's ago also.
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2014 8:38:45 AM

Had my weight-loss support group meeting last night. The room was more packed than ever, which is a good thing. Several of the regulars told me I look like I have lost weight (which always feels good). My problem is that since I started taking anti-epileptic medicine, I feel sleepy/drowsy a lot of the time and that had reduced my total physical activity. I have been struggling to stay at the same weight, much less lose any more weight.

Today I have TWO doctor appointments, in cities 40 minutes apart. I hope the first one doesn't run too late or I will be late for the second one!
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 5:15:22 AM

One of my new "filler" foods is popcorn. High in fiber, low in fat & calories, yet very filling. My wife special orders her brand that she says is the best microwave popcorn she's ever had, two cases at a time, and she brings it with her when she travels, even when she goes to the hospital. I just get the "smart" popcorn, not the best I've ever tasted, but less butter & salt, better for me, and I can get it cheaper right on the grocery store shelves.
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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2014 12:14:46 PM

I just looked up a few more things I normally eat for a "fast food" thing and was surprised at how many calories they were.

Idahoan instant potatoes and Knorr Fiesta rice sides. 440 and 960 calories, respectively for the whole pkg that I eat.

So far today I've eaten 663 calories. Coffee & Coffeemate, V-8 Spicy Tomato Juice, Raisin Bran and 1% milk. That Coffeemate was 150 calories, alone for one cup of Joe.

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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2014 10:21:54 AM

I tried recording my input, but I just can't do it. I don't remember to write some things down or don't include enough detail for it to be useful.
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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2014 9:20:21 AM

Have you considered writing down everything your eating to see which foods you are overdoing?

When I used my food spreadsheet I saw I ate 300 calories of Coffeemate daily. When looking at the Coffeemate container info it seems low on calories but measuring the gms. eaten it comes to the 300.

On my spreadsheet I list any foods I might eat monthly and when I eat any of them I put the 1 or 2 servings eaten and it automatically calculates the calories, fat, pot, sugar, carb, protein, chol, sodium, and fiber for the day.

When I seriously try to lose weight I use it. If you have any interest in seeing it let me know.

I think I will use it today and see if I can start using it again.
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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2014 6:55:12 AM

I started putting on a few pounds, so I have to do what I can to stop that upward trend and get back on track to lose more weight. I am nowhere near where I want to get yet.
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Message Posted: Oct 5, 2014 9:11:21 PM

The kids are great...and always teaching us something. Last night, the 6 year old was pretending she was typing a letter on her make-believe computer and at the end she said..."hashtag", enter.

I couldn't believe she was quoting a "Twitter" entry.

In 10 days we will also have the 2 year old (for 6 days) so that will also be great.
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Message Posted: Oct 5, 2014 7:39:32 PM

Ok, for our sadness, here is something that should pick up our spirits and give a chuckle:Our almost 2-yr-old granddaughter, Ginny, pronounces "muffin" as "nuffin." Our daughter, Ginny's mom, bought a freshly home-baked muffin at the farmers market and when they got home she gave some of it to Ginny before daddy (Joel) realized they were home. When daddy spotted his little cutie and that she was chewing on something, he was concerned what it was, where she got it, etc... This conversation ensued:

Joel: Ginny, what are you eating?
Ginny: Nuffin.
Joel: What's in your mouth?
Ginny (insistant): Nuffin, Dada!
Joel: Ginny, show me what's in your mouth!
Ginny: NUFFIN, DADA!

Mommy had to step in there... but it was difficult because she was laughing so hard!

I wish they had that one on video!

[Edited by: GBGuy at 10/5/2014 7:42:36 PM EST]
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