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contiki

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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 8:41:18 AM

Are police officers under pressure to write tickets to fill quota....

It’s hard to argue against a traffic ticket that involves public safety. But if you’re frustrated after getting a ticket for some minor violation, you’re not alone.

In times past, a police officer would often give you a warning and send you on your way.
Not anymore.

According to local resident Phil Palter, there can be up to five cops writing tickets on a Saturday afternoon at St. Pauls Square in Toronto.

More than 58,000 traffic tickets were handed out in the city of Winnipeg in 2010, and another 57,000 in 2011.
These days, it seems, nobody gets a second chance. A hefty ticket is the order of the day.

It’s happening in cities across Canada, but Winnipeg appears to be the worst.
Police there issued 57,000 tickets in 2011. In 2012, city hall asked the police to increase their revenue from tickets by $1.4 million.
Critics say police officers are under pressure to issue a certain number of tickets.

“I think most officers would be happy to provide a discretionary warning,” said Mike Sutherland, head of the Winnipeg Police Association. “The difficulty comes when there are significant work place consequences imposed on officers if they fail to hand out a certain number of tickets in a prescribed period of time.”

Are police officers under pressure to write tickets to fill quota....

Tell me how you see it.....give me your comments on this issue......

As always please keep it friendly...........
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contiki
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Message Posted: Dec 15, 2014 8:03:12 AM

Yes...in my cities and towns............
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hoopitup2000
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2014 10:02:04 AM

Yes. . . .
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contiki
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2014 7:58:41 AM

I think this topic has show more than enough that there is pressure on many police to write tickets to keep cities and town's revenues up........

Toronto, Ontario has proven this by complains by city officals that police are not writing enough tickets and only giving out warnings instead...

Police warnings don't bring in any revenues.................
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Tucsonhomes
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 11:21:11 AM

Sure they are
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GasMiser718
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 11:11:54 AM

Yes I do beleive that, makes money for the city...
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badbobKY
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 8:06:30 AM

yes
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gator2002
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 8:05:51 AM

You bet they are
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dassfg
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 7:51:04 AM

Absolutely! Fort Worth PD just lost Fed & State funds because they got caught with a quota system.
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contiki
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 6:54:42 AM

I saw on CTV NEWS the other night, the city of Toronto, Ontario the police officers are not writing as many tickets as needed......more warnings now by police instead......

The city of Toronto says revenues are way down in their coffers because police officers are not writing enough tickets and tickets are way down from the year before......

The city of Toronto want more tickets issued by police officers because they need the monies and have said so.......

Many cities and towns want motorists to break the law so more tickets can be issued to keep the revenues up........go figure........

More proof that police officers are under pressure to write more tickets and do to keep the revenues up.................

Only in Toronto, Ontario the police are following behind what is expected of them...................

[Edited by: contiki at 12/12/2014 6:56:54 AM EST]
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DerTaubman
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2014 9:39:50 AM

Illegal in Michigan.
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Jackson126
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2014 7:47:53 AM

no
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cDagasGo
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2014 9:36:04 PM

If you worked in a ball bearing factory... would you be under pressure to make ball bearing? Of course not!
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Maintroll
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2014 7:22:44 AM

Not in Lexington, Kentucky as we have Selective enforcement units that monitor traffic areas everyday. They are usually in different locations each day.
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Floridaman2013
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2014 6:43:00 AM

Very few towns across the country ever do this, but there have been a few, one here in Florida that got caught and disbanded.
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contiki
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2014 6:25:42 AM

I saw on CTV news last night, the city of Toronto, Ontario the police officers are not writing as many tickets as needed......more warnings now by police instead......

The city of Toronto says revenues are way down in their coffers because police officers are not writing enough tickets and tickets are way down from the year before......

The city of Toronto want more tickets issued by police officers because they need the monies and have said so.......

Many cities and towns want motorists to break the law so more tickets can be issued to keep the revenues up........go figure........

More proof that police officers are under pressure to write tickets.....


[Edited by: contiki at 12/6/2014 6:30:27 AM EST]
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Tucsonhomes
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2014 12:00:18 PM

I think many, if not most are
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contiki
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2014 11:34:55 AM

I think it is part of the job to write so many tickets per shift.....
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Message Posted: Dec 4, 2014 9:13:22 AM

Of course
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no
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No
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GasMiser718
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2014 1:14:56 PM

Yes I think so... Tax revenue for the city.
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Tucsonhomes
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Some are for sure
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contiki
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2014 7:00:12 AM

I do not know if they are "under pressure", but I think it plays a factor inn their reviews if they do not write enough.

I agree with you WEPSMAN ...........
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WEPSMAN
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 8:49:29 AM

I do not know if they are "under pressure", but I think it plays a factor inn their reviews if they do not write enough.
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contiki
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2014 7:26:33 AM

I still believe there is pressure to write tickets by police officers as part of their duties of the job.....
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contiki
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2014 7:04:36 AM

Ballylane thanks for your posting on the issue......

Inside information to what goes on.......
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Ballylane
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 8:01:44 PM

Yes they are.............How do I know ..........I used to be one. It's not a quota but a means to measure their performance, though it was strange that some of the best officers that wrote few tickets but made many arrests got told to improve their performance/workload.
You know the old adage: s..t rolls downhill well the pressure to write tickets comes from the city managers to the Chief who passes that pressure down to the rank and file via the Superintendents and Inspectors.
Officers and especially the parking enforcement officers really feel the pressure.
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Mikeyy1960
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 7:57:24 PM

yes to generate revenue
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 7:46:33 PM

YES
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contiki
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2014 5:34:08 PM

It may not be a 'quota', but revenue generation is very important for the city budget.

That is very true......

I personally don't think looking for ways to make money off people making mistakes in their driving to maintain a budget in the right way of doing thing yet many towns and cities use this plan...........

Town and cities counting on people making wrong decisions or mistakes in driving in their life to keep revenues up and the budget......not a good thing for sure......

It is a build in system for towns and cities to always get monies.......

[Edited by: contiki at 11/18/2014 5:41:45 PM EST]
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no
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2014 11:33:36 PM

It may not be a 'quota', but revenue generation is very important for the city budget.
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2014 10:44:27 PM

Because the police here are having pension trouble with the Provincial Government, they have slowed down on the tickets. Just yesterday they were told ( by city officials) to fulfill their duties (as the city is short substancial funds). And by gosh red lights are a flashing every where.

[Edited by: DasAuto92 at 11/13/2014 10:46:56 PM EST]
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No
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Sure, generating revenue for cities there working in.
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no
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contiki
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2014 6:24:49 AM

eB40 says " If your a chicken farmer, are you under pressure to raise chickens? "

eB40, It is a interesting way of putting it.........
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If your a chicken farmer, are you under pressure to raise chickens?
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contiki
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2014 6:49:11 AM

I think there is some pressure for policemen to write a certain amount of tickets per shift in most towns and cities............
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Definitely
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yes
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contiki
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 6:43:29 AM

I think it is part of a policeman work to write so many tickets in his or her shift......
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yes
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No
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I don't think so, it's their job.
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contiki
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2014 6:31:27 AM

"It varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, from precinct to precinct, and sometimes from shift to shift. What one police chief does "here" may differ from what that duty supervisor does "there."

But it does seem that there is a trend to use fines and fees to raise municipal revenues."

I agree traffic cop.................
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 11:29:45 AM

I've posted this thought so many times, but here goes:

It varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, from precinct to precinct, and sometimes from shift to shift. What one police chief does "here" may differ from what that duty supervisor does "there."

But it does seem that there is a trend to use fines and fees to raise municipal revenues. This is definitely true with Boston parking fines ("meter maids"), but NOT true with Boston traffic enforcement.

So guard against over-generalizing.
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NO
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If one would consider all the high tech garb an officer must tote around along with the vehicle He drives/patrols with. All the lighting, internet, extra emerg.equiptment, radio system, all heavy duty OEM vehicle components, tracking radar, ETC.

Then How can they afford to give a warning only on the tax-payers dollar while the vehicle is idling away fuel each time a traffic stop occurs? Each mile is a tremendous cost and each stop action. Not including liabilities if they occur. Cost for flashlight batteries, free warning tickets, pen ink, vehicle wash, instant cams, photos, ETC...... more.....
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Absolutely, it's all about Revunue for the city or State!
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contiki
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2014 6:19:48 AM

I think they under pressure to produce so many tickets per shift......

That is what I have heard............whether it is true or not....I couldn't say.........
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