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contiki
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 8:41:18 AM

Are police officers under pressure to write tickets to fill quota....

It’s hard to argue against a traffic ticket that involves public safety. But if you’re frustrated after getting a ticket for some minor violation, you’re not alone.

In times past, a police officer would often give you a warning and send you on your way.
Not anymore.

According to local resident Phil Palter, there can be up to five cops writing tickets on a Saturday afternoon at St. Pauls Square in Toronto.

More than 58,000 traffic tickets were handed out in the city of Winnipeg in 2010, and another 57,000 in 2011.
These days, it seems, nobody gets a second chance. A hefty ticket is the order of the day.

It’s happening in cities across Canada, but Winnipeg appears to be the worst.
Police there issued 57,000 tickets in 2011. In 2012, city hall asked the police to increase their revenue from tickets by $1.4 million.
Critics say police officers are under pressure to issue a certain number of tickets.

“I think most officers would be happy to provide a discretionary warning,” said Mike Sutherland, head of the Winnipeg Police Association. “The difficulty comes when there are significant work place consequences imposed on officers if they fail to hand out a certain number of tickets in a prescribed period of time.”

Are police officers under pressure to write tickets to fill quota....

Tell me how you see it.....give me your comments on this issue......

As always please keep it friendly...........
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GasMiser718
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2015 4:59:07 PM

I believe they are, or they just enjoy writing them.
Refueler2015
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2015 6:06:32 PM

Although I do believe that ticket quotas exist, I also believe that not enough tickets are written. I see many violators that get away with it. I have no sympathy for people who illegally park in handicap spaces. I see it all over the place. People who abuse the handicap rules because they are too lazy to walk the distance or the ones who think that their time is more valuable than everyone else's.
Happyherman
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2015 5:35:52 PM

I know several cops in Calgary who freely admit they have quotas to fill.
dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2015 4:59:53 PM

I just think taxpayers want to know that they, each officer/officers will just Blow their Whistles occasionally! Like Toot Toot maybe....
Whistle Blasts cause PANIC! "Don't-u-know"....... lol1
eB40
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2015 1:05:52 PM

No, it's their job.
Mininana
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2015 12:10:41 PM

is the pope under pressure to pray?
contiki
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2015 6:49:39 AM

I still believe most police forces have quotas........
MeTaBall
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2015 6:24:19 PM

No
dassfg
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2015 8:20:25 AM

Yes
lilmx5guy
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2015 8:02:57 AM

They may call it a "minimum expectation for job performance", but if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and swims like a duck.
contiki
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2015 7:52:02 AM

I still believe that most police forces have quotas....
subielover2014
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2015 2:40:51 PM

No.I don't think they write enough.I see lots of violations all the time.They should be driving everyday cars(not crown vics or impalas) and not parked on the side of the road.Blend in with traffic and watch for the speeders,weavers,tailgaters,etc.,etc.
contiki
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2015 6:55:53 AM

Mininana has a experience first hand what can happen when by saying " no doubt in my mind... driving along the I-290 north of Buffalo, it's like driving through a cash register. oh, and may I say, contiki, that's a beautifully posed question, you should get extra points... and if you come our way, beware on the I-290 between Grand Island and Amherst north of Buffalo"...

I am glad that you still enjoyed your trip...........
Mininana
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2015 9:23:36 AM

nice story... was driving on a lonely rural road through Oklahoma, Route 62, which we did end to end (Niagara Falls to El Paso) and there he came up behind us, gave a long walk-around to a mirage packed with three weeks clothes for two folks 64 years old... gave us an official warning, along with a wry "do try not to get another one"... that warning, 4-by-6, is one of the treasures of our trip.. and we didn't...
Mininana
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2015 9:20:58 AM

no doubt in my mind... driving along the I-290 north of Buffalo, it's like driving through a cash register. oh, and may I say, contiki, that's a beautifully posed question, you should get extra points... and if you come our way, beware on the I-290 between Grand Island and Amherst north of Buffalo...

[Edited by: Mininana at 2/15/2015 9:26:36 AM EST]
contiki
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2015 7:06:12 AM

I still believe that police officers have quotas they have to keep...

I have been told that by some officers on our town police......

It is part of showing that you are up to the job at hand...
GasMiser718
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2015 12:17:13 AM

Yes I believe they are. Why else would they have speed traps
2Tall
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2015 8:37:14 AM

No
retcap201
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2015 8:23:33 AM

NO
dassfg
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2015 8:15:14 AM

Is the Pope Catholic? Of course police have ticket quotas.
toms1120
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2015 6:47:04 AM

I like Fish2tail's answer, said it all...
Fish2tail
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2015 6:49:44 PM

If you were a chicken plucker... would you be under pressure to pluck chickens? No! It's your plucking job!
cDagasGo
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2015 10:23:02 PM

No
contiki
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2015 6:00:43 AM

I still believe that most towns and cities have quotas to maintain.....

Many towns and cities need the monies from tickets to kept their coffers up....
MeTaBall
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2015 7:01:32 PM

Nope
2Tall
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Message Posted: Jan 25, 2015 11:32:12 AM

no
contiki
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2015 7:01:37 AM

It is sad to say the motorists have to break laws so cities and towns can get their revenues they need so badly.....

They depend on motorists breaking the law...warnings produce no revenues...

It is a shame the it has come down to this situation to get monies for city and town coffers.....
toms1120
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2015 7:42:29 PM

Their job.
Tucsonhomes
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2015 1:40:55 PM

Many of them are
contiki
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2015 1:29:41 PM

Should have read:

eyegotgas2 says " I have gotten a few warnings over the years in BC "

In Ontario not many warnings are given..no money is made by given out warnings.......

My guess is in Ontario they figure warnings don't give any revenues......

Cities and towns need revenues for their coffers......so here is the ticket....
contiki
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2015 6:42:43 AM

eyegotgas2 says " I have gotten a few warnings over the years in BC "

In Ontario not many warnings are given..no money made by given out tickets.......

My guess is in Ontario they figure warnings don't give any revenues......

Cities and towns need revenues for their coffers......
dassfg
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2015 8:23:21 AM

Everyone knows they are
eyegotgas2
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2015 8:21:30 AM

I have gotten a few warnings over the years in BC
eyegotgas2
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I don't know but it makes you wonder
contiki
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2015 8:10:40 AM

Most police have another name for it and it is not called quatas..........

Different police forces different names.............
contiki
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2015 6:19:23 AM

Illinois just passed a law outlawing quotas....

You won't see that happening here in Ontario...too much money being made...
gvan
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2015 11:52:59 AM

Illinois just passed a law outlawing quotas....doesn't mean they won't exist though.
contiki
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2015 6:37:36 AM

traffic cop says " People need to raise hell in places like Toronto. "

What good would be achieved........this is the way business is done....

Toronto wants it's revenues......and will get them.....

Police will do what is expected of them to keep a job.....

[Edited by: contiki at 1/2/2015 6:38:59 AM EST]
WilhamClouse
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yes
traffic cop
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2015 11:59:19 PM

I'm still on the same page with you, Contiki. With quotas, cops go to where they can get the most tickets the fastest--your proverbial speedtrap, for example. Enforcement should be a balance between the officer and the first two levels of supervisors (typically, sergeants and lieutenants--this varies). They should be guided by their overall law enforcement needs, with input from the community and informed parties such as traffic and accident analysts.

Traffic enforcement can be useful for various other agendae, such as suppression of gang activity (I loved impounding some goon's car), discouraging commuters who short-cut through residential streets, and the like. But revenue? An absolute never!

People need to raise hell in places like Toronto.
contiki
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2015 6:34:14 AM

Many cities and towns want you to break the law to keep up revenues...

Toronto, Ontario has proven this by complains by city officials that police are not writing enough tickets and only giving out warnings instead...

Police warnings don't bring in any revenues.................

I think is sinful to expect motorists to break the law to keep up revenues for many cities and town....

[Edited by: contiki at 1/1/2015 6:34:46 AM EST]
vabites
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2014 7:57:32 AM

Just goes to show you the municipalities view ticketing violations as a revenue stream vice a public safety concern. This will lead to higher fines as citizens wise up because the scumbags putting pressure on the LEOs are drug addicted (money being the drug in this case).
dassfg
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2014 7:50:52 AM

Of course. The Chief invents a different name (minimum expectation instead of quota) and enforces his quota system.
contiki
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2014 7:07:50 AM

Toronto, Ontario has proven this by complains by city officals that police are not writing enough tickets and only giving out warnings instead...

Police warnings don't bring in any revenues.................

They want motorists to break the law to keep up revenues...go figure...
contiki
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Message Posted: Dec 15, 2014 8:03:12 AM

Yes...in my cities and towns............
hoopitup2000
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Yes. . . .
contiki
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2014 7:58:41 AM

I think this topic has show more than enough that there is pressure on many police to write tickets to keep cities and town's revenues up........

Toronto, Ontario has proven this by complains by city officals that police are not writing enough tickets and only giving out warnings instead...

Police warnings don't bring in any revenues.................
Tucsonhomes
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 11:21:11 AM

Sure they are
GasMiser718
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 11:11:54 AM

Yes I do beleive that, makes money for the city...
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yes
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You bet they are
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