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contiki

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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 7:56:40 AM

Are we witnessing the last gasp of the V8 engine?

The days when a V8 engine was standard equipment, or perhaps an inexpensive option on bread-and-butter family vehicles is receding into dim memory.

Only one of the old “Big Three” North American automakers — Chrysler — still offers an eight-cylinder motor in non-high-end sedans (Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger), though V8s are still available on the sporty Ford Mustang, Dodge Challenger and Chevrolet Camaro.

But otherwise, passenger-car lineups are limited to four- and six-cylinder power plants, with added power provided through turbocharging. The only other large-volume domestic V8s are found in pickup trucks.

The affordable V8 had its high-water mark in the 1960s. A brace of oil crises in the 1970s sent fuel prices soaring and pushed the U.S. government to begin mandating fuel-economy standards, and later carbon-dioxide emission levels, all of which have translated into fewer cylinders under the hood.

Full story here.....

Do you think the V8 engine has had it's day.......Tell me how you see it.......
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contiki
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2013 4:39:34 PM

Fuel Pump says "Nope, they will be around for some time to come. Fewer in numbers, but
they still have their market notch."

I think the V8 engine will be much fewer in numbers for the future....

I see them more for heavy hauling in big trucks..........

I think pickups will be the norm with turbo change V6's because weight is also much a factor these days..............
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noblegiant
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2012 1:20:30 AM

Hope Not!! If They Just Make It More Fuel Efficient
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kellyoneal
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:44:46 PM

no
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W707
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:44:07 PM

got alot of V-8's around here plus a few V-10's
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DerTaubman
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:24:17 PM

Increasingly draconian EPA fuel mileage requirements will drive V-8's to extinction.
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FuelPump
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 11:28:26 AM

Nope, they will be around for some time to come. Fewer in numbers, but they still have their market notch.
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bluenvoy
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 10:37:14 AM

For most cars anyway.
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Banjoe
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 7:55:02 AM

The V8 will phase out of passenger cars as the smaller engines ramp up to deliver the same performance.

Can't see the big displacement machines being replaced in highway trucks, major motorhomes, or weight hauling pickups. These will transition to diesels in the near future.

I will miss all the rumbling, ground-shaking nastiness of a big V8 when they're gone.
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contiki
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 7:41:23 AM


LKnight598 says "In cars, most likely. However, I think we'll see the V8 engine in pickups and trucks will be around for quite a while longer."

I agree with LKnight598............
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LKnight598
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 8:00:27 PM

In cars, most likely. However, I think we'll see the V8 engine in pickups and trucks will be around for quite a while longer.
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FuelPump
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 1:48:57 PM

They will be around for some time to come, fewer in numbers, but they will not disappear. Look for more and more efficiency in all engines, including the V8.
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diesel8888
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 1:38:55 PM

I think it is heading to this direction.
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Snowchoux
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 11:51:03 AM

No, it will be around for some time.
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geobmw
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 9:39:42 AM

no
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FieroGT
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 5:13:05 PM

Could be. The auto power plants are changing rapidly, getting smaller and lighter.
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contiki
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:57:46 AM

I believe V8 engines will be a thing of the past when you consider what 6cylinder engines with turbo charge can do these days......

Some heavy trucks maybe need V8 engines but that about all.........

[Edited by: contiki at 11/14/2012 7:59:44 AM EST]
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russells350
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 7:29:27 AM

no
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OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:23:22 AM

Americans and their love/need for larger cars, trucks and vans will keep the V8 engine from disappearing like the Dodo bird ...
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contiki
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2012 8:05:28 AM

Titanic1985 says "This is a good topic :-) . Thanks contiki - MGY"

Thank you Titanic1985 for your support..........
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bluenvoy
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 2:31:44 PM

Trucks will still have them.
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WhiteRaven48
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 10:31:12 AM

The other day there was someone in the media predicting sub $2 / gal gas again within a few years. If that happens I'd predict a resurgence in the V8 engine, but a much better line of V8 engine, including that of the new Corvette.
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Titanic1985
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 8:54:32 AM

Hi contiki. There will always be a need and love for the V8 engine (e.g. pickup trucks and large "real" SUVs), but I do think the days of the V8 engine in automobiles are numbered. Only high performance and ultra luxury cars will have them and due to low volume production their cost will rise significantly. The V8 will continue to become more efficient and have a smaller displacement.

One thought I had involved issues in the 1980s with lighter duty rack and pinion steering on the Ford T-Bird. The suspension was fine with a turbo four engine, but failed repeatedly with a V8, due to the heavier weight of the V8 engine. Once manufacturers get "locked into" lighter, less durable front-ends, the V8 will not be an option.

This is a good topic :-) . Thanks contiki - MGY
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contiki
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 7:42:27 AM

I think because of economy/weight considerations they will take a decided back burner if not all but disappear from cars in coming years.

I agree.......think the V8 engine will be a a special order or option......
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PupDog
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2012 4:58:54 PM

I think because of economy/weight considerations they will take a decided back burner if not all but disappear from cars in coming years.

MOPAR has a pretty impressive V-6 with variable valve timing and drop out cylinders and that seems to be the trend for cars these days in the latest engine technology that I have seen at the auto show at the State Fair of Texas this year. Those are highly modified engines that will kick major ass in the HP dept, and do well for their weight. Use fully synthetic engine oil in them if you get one though, as engine work on those will be prohibitive for all that is in them.
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STEVE853
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2012 2:41:45 PM

V-8 Engines will never go away!
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gmc48
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2012 2:36:40 PM

V8s will not die. As a matter of fact they will keep improving. The new LT1 coming from GM looks to be very promising.
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CactusBobs
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2012 12:47:17 PM

This is just one of the reasons light duty pickup trucks sales are through the roof

People want what they want and will find it and get it

even if what they want does not come in car form anymore

the EPA only thinks it has control over the people
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contiki
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2012 11:39:20 AM

Not having a V8 engine doesn't seem to be missed all that much..........

You can get similar power and torque from some V6 (or even some 4 cylinder!) using turbocharging or supercharging, with similar reliability and even BETTER gas mileage than that of a V8 engine.......

You can see now that most 'mid-class' sedans that 'always' had V6 power now make do now with turbo 4 cylinders.....

Not many people seem to be complaining either................

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DasAuto92
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 11:20:06 AM


But V8s are likely to live on in imported high-end luxury vehicles from Japan and Germany for some time, for the simple reason that customers expect them.

Mercedes-Benz’s current line of SUVs is a case in point. The ML 550 and ML 63 AMG, $76,500 and $100,900 respectively, and GL 450 and 550 ($75,900 and $95,900), come with standard V8s in the upper range. The ground-pounding revised G-Class is also V8-powered, with a 382-horsepower 5.5-litre unit for $120,000 and a 536-hp biturbo version of the same engine on the G 63 AMG model.

According to your copy & paste....NO
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kellyoneal
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 10:39:49 AM

no
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2004VHO
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 10:35:53 AM

I sure hope not.

V-8's wil be needed in trucks for a LOOOOng time, IMO. Businesses & companies need the added V8 torque to get shipments/supplies/packages moving.
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contiki
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 9:45:03 AM

I feel in the future with most V8 engines, it will be a special order or option when buying a new vehicle.............

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noblegiant
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 12:14:23 AM

Possibly But I Doubt It, They'll Probably Make Them More Fuel Efficient In The Future.
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 11:07:19 PM

I see no reason for a vehicle short of a half-ton truck or capable of three rows of passengers to have more than four cylinders. Especially since the manufacturers have now been deploying direct injection and turbocharging throughout their lines.


[Edited by: Sneakers55 at 10/25/2012 11:09:11 PM EST]
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jessjames
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 8:35:55 AM

No
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WES03
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 8:30:23 AM

No but the numbers don't lie. There will be less of them.
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contiki
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 8:29:30 AM

GM unveils new V8 for 2014 Corvette......

October 24, 2012

6.2-litre engine boasts cylinder-deactivation....

The almost-all-new 6.2-litre small-block V8 General Motors'll stuff into the 2014 Chevrolet Corvette will be the sports car's first with cylinder deactivation.

Working alongside a new direct injection setup, that active fuel management system should help the LT1 – which the automaker unveiled October 24 – net better than 26 mpg (9.0 L/100 km) highway.

Power and torque are also up compared to the current LS3 small-block; it should turn out an estimated 450 horsepower and just as many lb.-ft. of torque.

GM calls the redesign of this fifth-generation small-block – to be built in Buffalo, New York – its most significant ever. It shares just a handful of parts with the outgoing Corvette mill.

Read about it here.......
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russells350
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 7:38:17 AM

no
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 7:18:39 AM

no
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 6:15:20 AM

No. Chevrolet introduced a new V8 yesterday for the Corvette. It'll probably be added to their trucks.
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jes
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 5:15:06 AM

I doubt it.
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Bluebird333
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 3:54:28 AM

I can't see the v8 disappearing for good.
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FreddFfish
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 1:32:35 AM

I think we're seeing the end in the more mainstream vehicles, even far fewer in trucks. GM has just launched a revised small V8 though which is still reasonably efficient. Hopefully they will stay alive but I'm not optimistic.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 7:44:02 PM

Pretty much except in trucks and specialty cars. In 10 years, who knows? I'd be willing to bet that the 2025 Corvette will have a turbo 4 cyl.
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STEVE853
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 7:43:42 PM

Never
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14smoke
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 6:22:42 PM

The days of the V8 are far from over. Too many of them out there right now and they are becoming more and more efficient too. This has been wondered before, to OPEC oil crises in the 1970's and from time-to-time since then, and the V8 is alive and well.

This is "I hope" reporting by the author of the article.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 5:42:16 PM

No
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 5:38:07 PM

no there will still be a demand for them
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psm80134
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 1:48:32 PM

I certainly hope the V8 engine isn't going away.
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FuelPump
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2012 11:07:29 AM

I think the will be around for a long time to come. In lower numbers, but they will continue to exist. Look for more efficient V8's in the future.
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