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Titanic1985 Champion Author South Carolina Posts:6,293 Points:361,095 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2012 12:39:30 PM Ignore Titanic1985 Report Abuse I've seen other Topics regarding whether you rotate your tires and how often, but I've not seen how you rotate your tires. According to the Owner's Manual and most tire garages, front wheel drive vehicles mandate moving the rear tires to the opposite side in the front of the vehicle and moving the front tires to the rear on the same side. Research of this has shown that changing the tire to the opposite side insures longer tire life since the tire is rotating in the opposite direction. There are exceptions such as the Chevrolet's Corvette V-tread tires must remain on the same side (they are uni-directional). Placing this type of tire on the opposite side of the vehicle would cause excessive heat and wear and could result in a heat-related blowout. Rear drive vehicles usually require same side front to rear rotation. The question here is how do you rotate your tires (not if or how often)?

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I've seen other Topics regarding whether you rotate your tires and how often, but I've not seen how you rotate your tires. According to the Owner's Manual and most tire garages, front wheel drive vehicles mandate moving the rear tires to the opposite side in the front of the vehicle and moving the front tires to the rear on the same side. Research of this has shown that changing the tire to the opposite side insures longer tire life since the tire is rotating in the opposite direction. There are exceptions such as the Chevrolet's Corvette V-tread tires must remain on the same side (they are uni-directional). Placing this type of tire on the opposite side of the vehicle would cause excessive heat and wear and could result in a heat-related blowout. Rear drive vehicles usually require same side front to rear rotation. The question here is how do you rotate your tires (not if or how often)?

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yodudebc Champion Author Vancouver Posts:5,616 Points:546,750 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2013 7:55:37 PM Ignore yodudebc Report Abuse I let the dealer do it every oil change (8000km), Titanic. When Winter tires need to be put on or pulled off, I make sure their position is chalked onto the sidewall.
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Coco0828 Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,011 Points:165,515 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Mar 26, 2013 11:49:53 AM Ignore Coco0828 Report Abuse Front to back.
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DoctorOH Champion Author Cleveland Posts:4,883 Points:1,080,325 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 1:21:30 AM Ignore DoctorOH Report Abuse Not yet I only have 1975 miles on my tires
Carusle Champion Author Atlanta Posts:11,446 Points:2,256,925 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 9:17:58 PM Ignore Carusle Report Abuse Keep em on the same side front to back or.
gas_phil Champion Author Sacramento Posts:1,620 Points:129,765 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 9:12:12 PM Ignore gas_phil Report Abuse The tires will rotate by themselves while on the move. Oops wrong answer. I'll drive it to Les Schwab and they'll balance/rotate it for free since it came from there. Front to back, same side only (unidirectional tires.)
rick_evans Champion Author Boston Posts:3,739 Points:1,036,635 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 8:17:03 PM Ignore rick_evans Report Abuse Front to back, same side, as recommended in the manual.
ricebike Champion Author New Jersey Posts:10,048 Points:1,858,645 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 7:59:19 PM Ignore ricebike Report Abuse six months to once a year yes, i use the "modified cross" pattern on my front wheel drive and rear wheel drive vehicles i don't need/want directional tires
pacecar68 Champion Author Oakland Posts:4,666 Points:868,070 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 7:59:10 PM Ignore pacecar68 Report Abuse how ever the tire shop does it. the follow the "recommended" procedures.
outlaw329 Champion Author Austin Posts:7,637 Points:1,378,405 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 7:32:26 PM Ignore outlaw329 Report Abuse Do it myself most of the time.
FieroGT Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:14,337 Points:2,509,035 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Mar 7, 2013 6:26:30 AM Ignore FieroGT Report Abuse Take the car to Discount Tire. They rotate tires for free.
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down2fumes All-Star Author Jacksonville Posts:737 Points:178,105 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 8:05:01 AM Ignore down2fumes Report Abuse steel belts. front to back on the same side.
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contiki Champion Author Ontario Posts:8,518 Points:568,265 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 7:18:33 AM Ignore contiki Report Abuse The Honda dealer does the X pattern on both vehicles...........
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bluenvoy Champion Author Nashville Posts:14,992 Points:1,879,590 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:31:01 AM Ignore bluenvoy Report Abuse Can't on my car. The rear tires are a different size then the front.
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BT1288 Champion Author Lincoln Posts:22,120 Points:1,426,310 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 8:54:18 AM Ignore BT1288 Report Abuse I don't rotate mine, since I have 245/45/17's on the front and 315/35/17's on the rear.
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traffic cop Champion Author Boston Posts:1,260 Points:539,165 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 12:14:08 PM Ignore traffic cop Report Abuse OKAY! I'm a true believer now--front-to-back-to-front, same side only. I'm just an old fogey, and was thinking of the day when we'd rotate to move every tire so it had a turn at the front-right. Even if it was a five-wheel rotation with the spare. If we were doing that, then there would be a lively discussion about various rotation patterns. Can't do that with a doughnut!
golfer7332 Sophomore Author Toronto Posts:206 Points:77,490 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 12:04:22 PM Ignore golfer7332 Report Abuse Front to back same side only regardless of what the manual or tire manufac says. I have one bad experience with using cross pattern and the car developed severe vibrations after rotation of tires. It turned out the steel belt shifted in one of the tires from rotating in reverse. Maybe tires are better made now but I wont gamble with that just to get some extra usage. Unless you're doing lots of one direction turns on daily drive, otherwise front to back is sufficient to even the wear for all tires.
down2fumes All-Star Author Jacksonville Posts:737 Points:178,105 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 10:51:11 AM Ignore down2fumes Report Abuse Front to rear on the same side only
Titanic1985 Champion Author South Carolina Posts:6,293 Points:361,095 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 10:28:45 AM Ignore Titanic1985 Report Abuse Hello traffic_cop. I agree with your statement. Your statement is more factual than mine when you said, "so many people just assume that a product will last and serve its purpose indefinitely without proper handling, maintenance, and application." My statement was based on my own experiences as I am particular about maintaining my equipment. Using the small engine example, the manufacturer recommends replacement of the oil every 25 hours. I buy engine timers for all of my engines since only the lawn tractors have them. In the case of both engine failures I had, the manufacturer's repair facility declare warranty, but the "zone representative said it was dirt in the oil and no warranty". An engine usually doesn't fly apart (literally) due to dirty oil, which was not the case. You sound like you were on my telephone call with tirerack.com as the man I spoke with said the biggest issue was that many people never rotate their tires and a question like yours was out of the ordinary. Take care :-). MGY
traffic cop Champion Author Boston Posts:1,260 Points:539,165 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 8:44:10 PM Ignore traffic cop Report Abuse Thanks, Titanic1985. The manual for my 09 Toyota AWD says same-side, back-to-front-to-back, so that's what I'll do--Even though my gut would like to see every tire take its turn on the right-front. I'll respectfully disagree with your final sentiments in paragraph 4, below, that it is "sad" that we consumers "must be concerned with eery minute aspect of use..." What I regard as sad is that so many people just assume that a product will last and serve its purpose indefinitely without proper handling, maintenance, and application. That's what instructions are for! How many people find, say, their wax peeling because they didn't clean the surface properly or applied it outside the prescribed temperature range? Thanks for your research and thoughts.
Titanic1985 Champion Author South Carolina Posts:6,293 Points:361,095 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 5:22:18 PM Ignore Titanic1985 Report Abuse Hi traffic_cop. You asked me if the tire manufacturer had a different recommendation than that of the vehicle's manufacturer which do you follow? I really answered that on December 6th, based on available facts. A tire, unless specifically designed for a particular vehicle such as a Chevrolet Corvette, may be installed on any vehicle of any design. To properly answer your question, it would be necessary to know the reasons and/or the rationale of the tire manufacturer for mandating a particular tire rotation pattern. Another question is, does going against a vehicle's recommendation ensure liability (e.g. a total catastrophic tire failure) or lack of achieving the tire's predicted mileage? I relate your question to a small gasoline engine. Unless its design is specifically for a particular application, the manufacturer doesn't know what its use will be (e.g. a push lawn mower, a pressure washer, a generator, etc.). I've had issues over the years with chipper / shredders which are considered severe use. The big box home retail stores sell them cheaply and often they fail before the warranty period. I've had two engine failures and was refused warranty. I now have a 4" chipper / shredder specifically engineered with a commercial grade Honda engine designed for this severe service. Yes it costs a great deal more money, but it has been trouble-free. I called tirerack.com with your question and their answer was to go with the recommendation of the vehicle. They answered that a tire manufacturer does not know the type of vehicle their product will be install on, except those specialty tires like the Corvette's. They also could not explain why a tire manufacturer would recommend a particular rotation pattern, especially considering they are not designated to a particular side of the vehicle when purchased. I hope that answers your question :-). If I might add, it is sad in today's marketing world where you pay the going price for an item and must be concerned with every minute aspect of its use for fear it will break and/or not be covered under a warranty. Best Wishes - MGY
gator2002 Champion Author Calgary Posts:11,026 Points:2,570,250 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 10:59:56 PM Ignore gator2002 Report Abuse Front to rear, rear to front.
traffic cop Champion Author Boston Posts:1,260 Points:539,165 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 9:59:51 PM Ignore traffic cop Report Abuse Then there is the matter of car owner's manual and tire manufactureror's recommendation. Which should prevail? Titanic1985, your thoughts?
cv Champion Author Raleigh Posts:15,221 Points:3,269,505 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 6:49:35 AM Ignore cv Report Abuse I do my own and swap front to back.
RacerGene Champion Author Alabama Posts:1,703 Points:366,225 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Dec 16, 2012 5:44:47 AM Ignore RacerGene Report Abuse Front to back