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kishoreCA Champion Author Ventura Posts:3,117 Points:392,895 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 1, 2012 12:23:59 PM Ignore kishoreCA Report Abuse Do you get mad at old citizens who drives really slow? (We all might reach that stage one day, so I feel sad for them to having to drive at that age.)

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Do you get mad at old citizens who drives really slow?
(We all might reach that stage one day, so I feel sad for them to having to drive at that age.)

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traffic cop Champion Author Boston Posts:1,242 Points:536,315 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: May 18, 2013 6:46:39 PM Ignore traffic cop Report Abuse Once the IRS-administered Death Panels in Obamacare are up and running, each year there will be fewer of us Baby Boomers on the roads to annoy you.
puddy Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:13,645 Points:3,266,925 Joined:Dec 2003	Message Posted: May 18, 2013 10:06:00 AM Ignore puddy Report Abuse I don't
jimmy544 Champion Author Boston Posts:4,112 Points:653,855 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: May 18, 2013 9:04:21 AM Ignore jimmy544 Report Abuse Yesterday I saw a young woman driving erratically on the Mass Pike. What was she doing? Apparently texting. She was looking down all of the time and was wandering around in the center lane. A long blast from my horn did get her attention but she almost hit someone twice. She needs removal from the driving population... maybe she will remove herself but will probably hit some older person too.
Weaslespit Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:8,907 Points:312,420 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: May 17, 2013 12:56:56 PM Ignore Weaslespit Report Abuse "When the ignorant stereotyping of older drivers stops, I, for one, will be happy to stop pointing the finger BACK at inexperienced, over-confidant younger drivers." Start a thread dealing with those idiots and I'll support it as well (throw-in cockey and arrogant as well). Posting as such in this thread however is just a deflection from the point at hand. This thread is not saying that 'all old drivers drive really slow'... EVERY demographic has poor drivers.
geobmw Champion Author Miami Posts:6,181 Points:1,403,195 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 10:29:32 PM Ignore geobmw Report Abuse always
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,182 Points:133,525 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 10:07:08 PM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse ::::When the ignorant stereotyping of older drivers stops, I, for one, will be happy to stop pointing the finger BACK at inexperienced, over-confidant younger drivers.:::: Enlightening isn't it? The older folk have a thick skin and have learned to take it when some ignorant fool yuppie freely discriminates against them and uses insulting oldster stereotypes. Yet they go ballistic when the elders turn the tables and roast their sorry butts. They are spoiled and have a thin skin. Too bad. Toughen up.
GAJDHI Rookie Author Montreal Posts:42 Points:1,198,400 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 8:27:08 PM Ignore GAJDHI Report Abuse Not at all, but they are more careful
73amx Champion Author Allentown Posts:1,173 Points:459,765 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 8:17:59 PM Ignore 73amx Report Abuse most do the speed limit, except Mario Andretti
fatfed Champion Author San Antonio Posts:2,865 Points:476,415 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 8:02:05 AM Ignore fatfed Report Abuse They are probably driving the speed limit
krazkar Veteran Author Calgary Posts:288 Points:275,560 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 7:51:13 AM Ignore krazkar Report Abuse Any driver driving slow...
ReddevilNO Champion Author New Orleans Posts:3,371 Points:581,190 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 7:05:21 AM Ignore ReddevilNO Report Abuse No, not really because, that's better then the most I've seen from a lot of the younger ones.....
Maintroll Champion Author Lexington Posts:8,634 Points:1,703,135 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 5:17:07 AM Ignore Maintroll Report Abuse I have seen a hell of a lot worse things from younger driving idiots, like a couple of young ones that got me involved in a road rage incident the other day for absolutely nothing as they were totally driving reckless weaving in and out of traffic on a major road.
rumbleseat Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:22,926 Points:3,530,310 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: May 16, 2013 1:26:38 AM Ignore rumbleseat Report Abuse "Again with the (incorrect) sterotyping if young folks. Give it a rest!" When the ignorant stereotyping of older drivers stops, I, for one, will be happy to stop pointing the finger BACK at inexperienced, over-confidant younger drivers. [Edited by: rumbleseat at 5/16/2013 1:30:28 AM EST]
jscdig Champion Author Maine Posts:7,274 Points:756,375 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 4:48:19 PM Ignore jscdig Report Abuse I find that I don't drive as fast as I used to now that I'm retired. I'm not under any time constraints so there's no point in hurrying.
jrfan6767 Veteran Author Kansas Posts:403 Points:41,770 Joined:Mar 2013	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 3:22:43 PM Ignore jrfan6767 Report Abuse the only thing i will say is if its time to give up driving then do it
mybigtruck Sophomore Author San Jose Posts:130 Points:198,900 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 3:20:40 PM Ignore mybigtruck Report Abuse The reality of it is, we're all going to be there one of these days. Leave them be. We should be mad at the idiots who hold up traffic while they text in one hand and eat with the other. Run them off the road!
Weaslespit Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:8,907 Points:312,420 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 2:42:29 PM Ignore Weaslespit Report Abuse "So would younger drivers. It would give them complete freedom to get as blown out on dope/alcohol as they wanted every night. There would be no worries about getting home without getting caught by the cops if the car was driverless." Again with the (incorrect) sterotyping if young folks. Give it a rest!
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,182 Points:133,525 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 10:58:47 AM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse Quote::::older driver would use the google driverless car.::: So would younger drivers. It would give them complete freedom to get as blown out on dope/alcohol as they wanted every night. There would be no worries about getting home without getting caught by the cops if the car was driverless. I predict this feature will be primarily used by the young, not the old.
nichols Champion Author Halifax Posts:6,846 Points:1,832,000 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 9:16:42 AM Ignore nichols Report Abuse older driver would use the google driverless car. As I get older I find that would I love this idea.
Carusle Champion Author Atlanta Posts:11,430 Points:2,254,000 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: May 2, 2013 10:00:39 PM Ignore Carusle Report Abuse give em room
Weaslespit Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:8,907 Points:312,420 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: May 2, 2013 7:49:29 PM Ignore Weaslespit Report Abuse "$10K/yr for a 19-year-old is believable. Give him a DUI with a couple of accidents and a few lesser violations, put him in a new Mustang registered in a high-theft district...$10K is possible. We used to have lots of ultra-affluent international students in my districts in BMWs (5-series) and up. They paid lots." You should probably add a higher-priced region as well (East or West coast) ;) "Gentlemen, we're re-heating this old casserole again and again. Let's agree that older drivers TEND to be safer (if annoying) and younger male drivers TEND to be higher risk (and infuriating)." Agreed!
rumbleseat Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:22,926 Points:3,530,310 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: May 2, 2013 6:59:51 PM Ignore rumbleseat Report Abuse I get maximum discount. If I moved to my former province, and added a teenage driver, even with my discount, my rates would go up $3,500/yr, and that is a teenage driver with no convictions or accidents! That is not exaggeration. At least in Manitoba, I can have a teenage driver without affecting my premium.
pawnkingfour All-Star Author Georgia Posts:561 Points:141,540 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: May 2, 2013 6:37:01 PM Ignore pawnkingfour Report Abuse I guess we noticed old drivers to be driving slower, but if we look at the speedometer, majority of them are really close or at the posted speed limit.
traffic cop Champion Author Boston Posts:1,242 Points:536,315 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: May 2, 2013 6:10:05 PM Ignore traffic cop Report Abuse $10K/yr for a 19-year-old is believable. Give him a DUI with a couple of accidents and a few lesser violations, put him in a new Mustang registered in a high-theft district...$10K is possible. We used to have lots of ultra-affluent international students in my districts in BMWs (5-series) and up. They paid lots. Hemond, I'll bet your nephew's truck is registered to his mother and he's not on the policy. If you can, find out their insurance carrier and notify them. Things might change when Mommy is spending $3500+ a year or more! Gentlemen, we're re-heating this old casserole again and again. Let's agree that older drivers TEND to be safer (if annoying) and younger male drivers TEND to be higher risk (and infuriating). Let's move on to desert.
Weaslespit Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:8,907 Points:312,420 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: May 2, 2013 2:50:20 PM Ignore Weaslespit Report Abuse "But some groups are more prone to certain risks than others." I certainly don't disagree with that! "The insurance industry sure thinks young guys are a hazard. What does a 22 yo pay for liability? $3000 to $6000 to $10,000 a year? What does grandpa pay? $400 a year?" $10K per year? C'mon... $400 per year? Doubtful. I would think that the insurance companies have an age in mind where once you hit it your rates start to go back up - although probably not back up to $10K <s>. [Edited by: Weaslespit at 5/2/2013 2:53:14 PM EST]
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,182 Points:133,525 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: May 2, 2013 2:07:09 PM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse :::Consider homeowners on a flood plain pr coast Those closest to the water will drive up the insurance rates for those further up-slope.::: Well, I live maybe less than 1/4 mile from the shore and maybe 20 ft above sea level. My homeowner's rates are quite cheap. Don't even need flood insurance. I'm kinda hoping some global warming occurs so I can have an ocean front home.
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,182 Points:133,525 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: May 2, 2013 2:03:42 PM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse :::The elders who are higher in risk tend to be removed from their drivers' pool because of self-limiting factors: infirmity, death, etc. This doesn't occur so much with the young men. ::: Sure it does. When they kill themselves by hitting a tree at 90mph. Or wind up paraplegic or in a vegetative state in a state institution. They remove themselves by self limiting factors. [Edited by: Hemond at 5/2/2013 2:08:52 PM EST]
traffic cop Champion Author Boston Posts:1,242 Points:536,315 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: May 2, 2013 1:43:23 PM Ignore traffic cop Report Abuse Hemond, insurance rate setters can generalize, but I urge restraint in polite discussion. All young men suffer because of the smaller, yet statistically significant, risk takers. Consider homeowners on a flood plain pr coast Those closest to the water will drive up the insurance rates for those further up-slope. The elders who are higher in risk tend to be removed from their drivers' pool because of self-limiting factors: infirmity, death, etc. This doesn't occur so much with the young men. Ask a RI cop about any "immediate hazard" procedures and get back to us, would you?
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,182 Points:133,525 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: May 2, 2013 1:26:07 PM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse ::::Hemond, you're overgeneralizing in that younger men are more commonly high-risk, but you're implying that it's a universal trait.::: The insurance industry sure thinks young guys are a hazard. What does a 22 yo pay for liability? $3000 to $6000 to $10,000 a year? What does grandpa pay? $400 a year? There is a reason for this disparity. Most claims are by the 22 yo's. Not grandpa.
traffic cop Champion Author Boston Posts:1,242 Points:536,315 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: May 2, 2013 12:42:17 PM Ignore traffic cop Report Abuse Like the old Certs mint add, I want to say, "Stop! You're both right!" Weaslespit, True: there are bad drivers in all age groups. But some groups are more prone to certain risks than others. Hemond, you're overgeneralizing in that younger men are more commonly high-risk, but you're implying that it's a universal trait. I have a very responsible 21-year-old son, with only a small parking mishap when he was inexperienced. (BTW, he's in Bible college.) Hemond, ask someone in law enforcement about RI's options for action by law enforcement or the DMV. List out his accidents and ask them to check for other driving infractions to be compiled. Provide the U-tube link. Also inquire: is he listed on the insurance policies of the vehicles he drives? That's a common way parents keep insurance costs down. If he resides in MA, I've told you how you can proceed. Minor consolation: He'll hopefully survive and outgrow this.
Weaslespit Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:8,907 Points:312,420 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: May 2, 2013 9:20:10 AM Ignore Weaslespit Report Abuse "Lets try an experiment. This weekend, starting with the weekend newspaper. Lets count up the number of traffic fatalities. Make 2 columns. One for those over age 60 and another for those under age 60. Lets compare how many dead tally up in each column. I'd like to place a bet that the under 60 column will be overbrimming with fatalities while the over 60 column will be empty." Do I really need to point out the glaring flaw with this 'experiment'? "Hemond may be overgeneralizing, but he has a valid point. That's why young men have higher insurance rates." I don't disgree with that - I mentioned a few posts ago that should another thread be created to discuss the merits of younger drivers there are far worse decisions made than our elder statesmen on a more frequent basis. Dangerous driving is far worse than being annoyed with regards to the topic of this thread... I see plenty of dangerous driving from any age group that commutes on a daily basis. "Weaslespit (love your moniker!)" Thanks! [Edited by: Weaslespit at 5/2/2013 9:21:48 AM EST]
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,182 Points:133,525 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: May 1, 2013 11:28:45 PM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse :::Further on "Immediate Hazard" reporting for an elder/high risk driver. :: Are you saying I could file a complaint against my 21 yo nephew? Anonymously? He is your typical dangerous airheaded young driver. Totaled 3 vehicles already in the 5 years he's been driving. (that I know of). A menace to all. He has a youtube vid posted of him and a buddy doing wheelies on I-95 at 70mph through downtown Providence. The kid is a menace and for his own protection should have his licence yanked. I thought for sure 3 serious wrecks would do it. But I guess the courts don't give a hoot when you are a young offender. I'm prepared to help my sis pick out his coffin. Just hope he doesn't take any one with him when he checks out. [Edited by: Hemond at 5/1/2013 11:31:26 PM EST]
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,182 Points:133,525 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: May 1, 2013 11:20:13 PM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse :::: Hemond may be overgeneralizing, but he has a valid point. That's why young men have higher insurance rates.::: Lets try an experiment. This weekend, starting with the weekend newspaper. Lets count up the number of traffic fatalities. Make 2 columns. One for those over age 60 and another for those under age 60. Lets compare how many dead tally up in each column. I'd like to place a bet that the under 60 column will be overbrimming with fatalities while the over 60 column will be empty. Btw, how can truth be overgeneralizing?
traffic cop Champion Author Boston Posts:1,242 Points:536,315 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: May 1, 2013 10:17:43 PM Ignore traffic cop Report Abuse The context of my point, worthy Hemond, when saying "when considering accidents, emember that elderly don't heal as well as they used to," is that at a certain age (late 80s and up) it may really be time to retire the driver's license. This is not an absolute; it varies. For those who are getting infirm, any accident sufficient to pop an airbag can be quite traumatic, even if they're properly belted in. Weaslespit (love your moniker!) Hemond may be overgeneralizing, but he has a valid point. That's why young men have higher insurance rates. My generalization: the more you combine the following, the more lethal the situation: maleness +immaturity (ages 15-25) + alcohol + speed + bravado
Weaslespit Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:8,907 Points:312,420 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: May 1, 2013 3:11:03 PM Ignore Weaslespit Report Abuse "The elderly are not the ones getting into collisions. Its the younger ones who are crashing. Presumably they heal quicker. Good thing too what with all the mayhem they cause on the highways." First off, 'experienced' drivers cause accidents too. Secondly, your disdain for all of these 'younger' drivers is extreme. No demographic has the market cornered on safe driving...
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,182 Points:133,525 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: May 1, 2013 2:36:27 PM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse ::::When considering accidents, emember that elderly don't heal as well as they used to. ::: Agree, but isn't that fairly irrelevant? The elderly are not the ones getting into collisions. Its the younger ones who are crashing. Presumably they heal quicker. Good thing too what with all the mayhem they cause on the highways. Plus, and although I have no evidence, it just seems that when some drunk crashes , he doesn't even get injured. Despite possibly killing the folks in the car they hit. Like the drunk going the wrong way on the interstate who hit my cousin head on. My cousin died while the drunk walked away without a scratch.
gomondizer Champion Author Missouri Posts:1,052 Points:119,230 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2013 2:08:00 PM Ignore gomondizer Report Abuse Someone earlier commented about an elderly person driving 10 to 15 mph below the posted speed limit. A few years ago in the small town where I lived, there four elderly gentlemen who would each drive about 10 to 15 mph period! It was always a pleasure to meet them on the road, because that meant you wouldn't be getting in behind them. On the other hand, I did know an elderly gentleman who when he was cautioned to drive carefully said, "Don't worry-- when they see this old man coming with the hammer down, they just get out of the way!" Take your pick.
traffic cop Champion Author Boston Posts:1,242 Points:536,315 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: May 1, 2013 1:50:56 PM Ignore traffic cop Report Abuse Further on "Immediate Hazard" reporting for an elder/high risk driver. If you're concerned about somebody whom you think should no longer be driving, ask a cop or your DMV about available procedures. 1) It might be done anonymously 2) You might ask a local cop to do it for you. 3) There might be another appropriate individual, such as a caregiver or doctor who is authorized to file the form. nru's experience shows that there may be resistance, and using a third party or anonymous reporting ("gramdma, maybe it was one of the neighbors!") may help preserve family peace. When considering accidents, emember that elderly don't heal as well as they used to.
2Tall Champion Author Maryland Posts:12,777 Points:2,941,380 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: May 1, 2013 1:12:29 AM Ignore 2Tall Report Abuse no
traffic cop Champion Author Boston Posts:1,242 Points:536,315 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 11:22:00 AM Ignore traffic cop Report Abuse nru tells us, "We finally wrestled the keys from my father who at 83..." Bravo, nru! Doctors and families need to be responsible, even if the elder is stubborn. Part of the responsibility requires increased willingness and availability to drive your elder around and be otherwise involved. In Massachusetts, cops have the "Immediate Hazard" form. A cop will explain on it (and attach relevant police & accident reports) explaining why somebody (anybody!) should have his license suspended, which happens immediately upon processing. A captain or higher must sign off on it. Then the MV people will schedule a hearing and review the driving record, medical factors, the instigating incident, etc. I've filed this not only on elders, but also repeat DUI's, reckless drivers, and inveterate jerks. Ask a cop if your state has a similar procedure.
RNF Champion Author Indiana Posts:7,101 Points:2,873,985 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 6:42:56 AM Ignore RNF Report Abuse No. My biggest concern is the (usually young) driver who drives at a speed well above the speed limit. Fortunately, I pass them later. They are pulled over on the side of the road by a police officer.
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,182 Points:133,525 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 6:26:20 AM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse My 21 yo nephew just totaled his 3rd vehicle. This time the truck his mummy bought him. The dude is a menace and should be forcibly taken off the road. No doubt some pot smoking played a part. How he kept his butt out of jail for this crash amazes me. He is far more dangerous than 100 elderly . Yet, he is back on the road with another brand new truck. What a waste of a nice truck. I would have loved it and would have taken good care of it.
blckwolf Veteran Author North Carolina Posts:285 Points:74,045 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Apr 29, 2013 11:09:40 PM Ignore blckwolf Report Abuse I don't mind an older driver driving a little slow (say, within 5 MPH hour of the speed limit - though, I will pass as soon as I can). What I can't stand, is someone who SHOULD NOT be on the road, because they are driving 10-15 MPH below the limit. They are a danger to themselves and other drivers. Additionally, there are cognitive issues when they get to this point that they are too scared to drive the speed limit. I was behind an older couple the other day, and we came to a four way stop. He just wanted to sit there and let the three other cars in a row go through, rather than take his right of way and go. If you are THAT timid and afraid of getting in an accident, DON'T DRIVE!
nru Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,748 Points:983,225 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Apr 29, 2013 11:00:53 PM Ignore nru Report Abuse We finally wrestled the keys from my father who at 83 was getting to be too erratic at the wheel. It's not getting old, it's not driving safely - they should take the keys from anyone who texts or puts on makeup while driving also. Has nothing to do with speed - I feel safer at 250kph on the autobahn than 55mph here - too many fools are given license in this country.
Weaslespit Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:8,907 Points:312,420 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Apr 29, 2013 10:00:26 PM Ignore Weaslespit Report Abuse "So it seems to me the original intent was to rag on senior citizens. I merely defend senior citizens. I am 66 years old myself." Yes, this thread focuses on 'experienced' drivers but I think it would be a misnomer to take that as saying no other demographic is guilty of poor driving habits. If you created a thread criticizing younger drivers for driving too aggressively I would agree with it as well.
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,182 Points:133,525 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Apr 28, 2013 10:33:42 AM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse :::You Seem To Be Offended By Anyone Who Has A Opinion To The Contrary.::: Not at all. I am offended by politically correct discrimination. In the US there are politically correct groups which are off limits to criticism. Some examples are blacks, gays, illegal immigrants, and muslim terrorists. Some examples of groups who are not protected by political correctness are the elderly, white males, (especially white men over age 50), Catholics, Israelis. It is open season on these groups. Feel free to hurl vitriol at them. On this board the discriminatory statements made against elderly drivers is poisonous despite clear evidence that they are the safest drivers.
Hemond Champion Author Providence Posts:8,182 Points:133,525 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Apr 28, 2013 10:22:01 AM Ignore Hemond Report Abuse To noblegiant: Why are you capitalizing every word in your sentences?
noblegiant Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:2,065 Points:942,470 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Apr 28, 2013 12:26:15 AM Ignore noblegiant Report Abuse To Hemond, You Seem To Be Offended By Anyone Who Has A Opinion To The Contrary. I Too Do Not Like Drivers Who Drive Erratic, On The Phone As If Their Sitting On The Living Room Couch. I Put Up With The Afternoon Commute With Senior Citizens On The Road Everyday But That's Not The Problem It's The Morning Retired Commuters With Little Or No Regard That's My Contention And It Won't Change. I Too Have Logged In Many Miles Over 36 Years As A Truck Driver Etc. Note: If You're Not Selfish You Should Understand.
gassprite Champion Author Toms River Posts:1,075 Points:137,915 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2013 11:16:49 PM Ignore gassprite Report Abuse Yes. But I wish I didn't. I can sense my own reaction time getting slower as I age so I know they're doing the right thing to take their time when they drive.
Vin63 Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:1,840 Points:455,245 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Apr 24, 2013 10:02:39 AM Ignore Vin63 Report Abuse No. Driving slow is fine. It's the erratic driving that is difficult to adapt to.