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kishoreCA

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2012 12:23:59 PM

Do you get mad at old citizens who drives really slow?
(We all might reach that stage one day, so I feel sad for them to having to drive at that age.)
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 12:56:31 PM

"Bigotry toward the young? More like a realistic assessment. The reality is youth and youth culture is highly prejudicial toward the old."

You see what I mean JediCharles?

hemond - Vice-versa is also true, no?
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 12:39:11 PM

Bigotry toward the young? More like a realistic assessment. The reality is youth and youth culture is highly prejudicial toward the old.


I realize only old people read newspapers today (or for that matter have the ability to read), but if you happen to read a newspaper this morning what do you see? After a major holiday like Labor Day, the morning paper is filled with the death tally. How many 2AM car crashes occured?

How many accidents where a car hits a pole at 80mph? How many where the driver is going the wrong way in the high speed lane of the interstate? How many where the car goes airborne and hits a tree 6 ft. above the ground? How many 2AM crashes where the car hits something and splits in 2 pieces?

Do you suppose its your granny in a walker who is going 80mph and hits a tree at 2AM? Nope. In fact the 100s and 100s of deaths which occurred over this weekend are little more than 1 column of news in the local paper.


Yet if that same granny I referenced jumps the curb and drives through the front window of Dunkin Donuts, its national news. The calls for testing and restricting of licenses are legion. Including several threads on this board.

Our culture pooh poohs the slaughter each weekend out on the highways by youth while at the same time goes apoplectic when some oldster drives slow - or makes the slightest driving transgression.

What you call bigotry is in fact a realistic assessment. The popular attitude is old folks should stay in their wheelchair, in the their nursing home and pick out their casket.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 12:23:28 PM

"Hemond, I really enjoy your posts. But things here have degenerated into a spitting contest (no offense intended, WeasleSPIT)."

LOL! None taken.
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 12:17:20 PM

Hemond, I really enjoy your posts. But things here have degenerated into a spitting contest (no offense intended, WeasleSPIT). Several posters are making very discourteous assumptions about others, which detracts from serious discussion.

rkwagon, we don't know quite what happened with your wife in the parking lot, but I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt. As we age, we like a larger "comfort zone" around us, in many ways (financial, emotional, etc.) This is true of how we position our car, I'm afraid: in the left lane, in the parking lot lanes, etc. It's credible that the old crone (1) occupied that comfortable middle-of-the-lane and (2) failed to pull to her right.

Mertieman, you and I are the exceptions. I also have a Class A license, and have driven professionally for almost 50 years. Now retired, I do part-time gigs in a cab. Thus, we keep our driving skills sharp, but I'll bet you've noticed you're not placing your tandems quite right everytime you dock. It's because our spacial awareness deteriorates.

This is something society really needs to address as we old coots, I mean "Boomers" grow in numbers and years. Unless they're planning on solving it with the Obamacare death panels. (Ulp!)

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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 8:59:34 AM

"Hemond, in your attempt to sound the most tolerant of all demographics, your last sentence reasonated with a bit of bigotry of the young, wouldn't you say?
Just sayin'."

Which is a common rsponse from him if you go through the history of this thread. He is best ignored...
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TheJediCharles
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 1:39:25 AM

Hemond, in your attempt to sound the most tolerant of all demographics, your last sentence reasonated with a bit of bigotry of the young, wouldn't you say?
Just sayin'.

[Edited by: TheJediCharles at 9/3/2013 1:40:06 AM EST]
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 1:03:07 AM

:::: Well You Seem To Know And Done It All!! It's No Wonder No One Has A Better Opinion Than You On This Subject. :::


Correct, and hatred toward minority groups is not one of the things I tolerate as I live the lifestyle with those groups. In the US it is politically correct to offer callous comments toward elderly. As rgtwgn does in his posts.

Old folk are treated like dirt, like imbeciles, as rw did in his comments and thinks nothing of it. Who can blame him as old folk are considered disposable in the US, nuisances, better off 6 feet under.

Ironic, the elderly have the money, the power, the influence, and the connections to run things, yet we admire silly nitwits like no talent singers and murderers in the NFL..

I'd much rather share the road with some sober 80 year old grandma than some clubbie blown out on purple lean/drank/MDMA.

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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 12:27:02 AM

To Hemond, Well You Seem To Know And Done It All!! It's No Wonder No One Has A Better Opinion Than You On This Subject. Yes I Have Cracked A Beer With A Brother From The Hood!! Because I Am A Brother From The Hood In Philly!! As I Stated Before Any Racial Overtones No Matter Has Nothing To Do With This Thread, "Hard Head"!!
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 12:05:16 AM

To Noblegiant. This is a public forum where any and all ideas are discussed. You are welcome to complain to the mods if you wish. Or you may use the ignore button if my message doesn't agree with your worldview.

As for your claim that I hate Jews, Blacks and GAys. Hmmm. I live in the ghetto with blacks and hispanics. I bought a house here. I'm more than able to get a home in the 'burbs, the beach, or the mountains - but reject such a boring existence. My neighbors are ghetto blacks. Have you ever cracked a beer with some 'bros from the 'hood in your backyard? I have. Can you say the same? I used to casually ride with some black motorcycle riders. I was the token white boy (their word). Can you offer anything similar?

I attended a Jewish middle school and high school. Although a Gentile, I've been an honorary bagel stuffer since age 12. My best lifelong friend since age 21 is a Jew. My second family is Jewish. If I was ever to emigrate, (which I've considered) it would be to Israel as I feel a kinship. I've made a stab at learning Hebrew. Can you say anything similar?


As for hating Gays, hmmm. I used to love hitting the gay nightclubs. Why? the people were more interesting/fun, the drinks were honest, the music was the best, and there was no trouble. As a 20 something I preferred the gay club circuit in NYC, Boston, and Montreal. Why? It was just more fun. So I have more than a passing acquaintance with gay boys whom you claim I hate. Can you say anything similar?




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noblegiant
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 9:58:45 PM

To Hemond, You Are The Very Reason This Thread Needs To Be Eliminated, You Act As If It's An Open Forum To Discuss Your Hatred For Blacks, Jews And Gays Etc. Which In Fact Has Nothing To Do With This Thread At All. I Guess Next You'll Be Comparing This Thread To The Civil Rights Movement In Your Somehow Twisted Way. Like I Said Before Everyone Has An Opinion That May Not Agree With Yours And They To Might Offer Their Opinion Without Your Distorted Views On The Subject.
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 8:09:22 PM

"Sheesh, she's a lot older than me, and I can't even swim across the local pond. Do you thing she drives slow?"

Non Sequitur... Please try to make sense.
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 4:38:42 PM

I wonder if Diana Nyad , age 64 drives slow? At age 64, would she be considered an 'old biddy'? She completed a 110 mile swim using her own batteries. A distance a Chevy Volt would need over 3 recharges of its batteries to cover. Link here.

Sheesh, she's a lot older than me, and I can't even swim across the local pond. Do you thing she drives slow?

[Edited by: Hemond at 9/2/2013 4:41:31 PM EST]
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cougfanSC
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 3:16:47 PM

No - at least they look at the road instead of trying to text and drive
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 3:08:07 PM

"So I will do as the monitors of this thread say to do, and push the ignore button and remove you!"

That is best. He thinks he knows all, he is best ignored! He doesn't even seem to recognize the hatred in his own posts. Sad.
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eyegotgas2
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 3:15:42 AM

More so on highways than in town. There are congested spots in town going posted speed limits could get you in trouble.
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 2:51:18 AM

QUOTE :::So I will do as the monitors of this thread say to do, and push the ignore button and remove you!::::



Err, didn't you already do that once over on the Volt thread? You boasted about it with glee - as you are doing now. Why did you take me off ignore? I too have an ignore list. But I don't boast about putting people on it. And they never, repeat never come off it.


But I digress. The fact of the matter is there are those of us who take issue with prejudicial remarks directed against minority groups. In this case your uncalled for slander against elderly people. And the term is "old biddy" - there is no such expresion as an 'old bitty'.

And I know enough to read what you wrote. Your wife crashed , therefore she wasn't in control of her car. If she had been looking ahead she would have seen any hazard coming and could have avoided it. If your wife had been looking ahead, the other driver could have flipped upside down and burst into flames without it affecting your wife one, err... bit.


[Edited by: Hemond at 9/2/2013 2:52:16 AM EST]
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dracer377m
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 2:11:03 AM

At times this bothers me, but I give out of state and older people a break.
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rkt wgn
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 2:00:26 AM

You are a real winner. What makes you think you know everything about what happened that day. If the" old bitty" would have kept her car on her side of the road , nothing would have happened, and I wouldn't have had to repair my wife's car. Why don't you just admit that you are a jerk trying to get under my skin, and keep your stupid remarks to yourself!
So I will do as the monitors of this thread say to do, and push the ignore button and remove you!
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Sep 1, 2013 12:31:45 AM

QUOTE:::: I mentioned that some old bitty ran my wife off the isle way in the shopping center, causing damage to her car. :::


First of all , there is no such thing as an "old bitty". The hateful derogatory slur you are referencing is "old biddy". In addition, maybe use aisle next time instead of isle. An isle is a piece of land surrounded by water.


Second, your wife was not in control of her vehicle. She wasn't looking ahead of her. If she was, she would not have gotten into trouble. A good driver maintains control of their car, your wife was not in control. She needs to work on that.


Third, the use of hate filled slurs towards the elderly is all too common in our country. You are following along with that prejudicial hate, going along with the crowd. Would you call your mother an old biddy? How about your grandmother? No? Then why call a stranger this hateful name?

I stand by my earlier statement. You wouldn't use the N-word in reference to blacks, nor the F-word in reference to gays. What gives you the right to call an old person an equally hate-filled name?

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ranger2k
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2013 12:29:10 PM

I drive slower because its more fuel efficient and remember the gas crap of the seventies. Drive like you have an egg between your foot and gas pedal. Besides I still do the speed limit which is 10 to 15 miles per hour slower than most.
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noblegiant
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2013 12:19:55 PM

This Thread Needs To Be Eliminated Because It's Too Opinionated,Sensitive And There Are Surely Valid Points With Any Perspective.
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toms1120
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2013 11:13:04 AM

What's "old"?
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2013 10:14:27 AM

Very good post traffic cop.
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2013 9:13:43 AM

You need to feel sorry for yourself my friend. I am elderly and I still possess my CDL license which I use everyday in my job. I have been driving for well over 50 years and I think I can match wits with many younger drivers that don't know the flow of traffic. Don't forget, in most cases that elderly driver has many more years of experience than you do, and you are going to get old and resent these remarks, if you manage to live long enough.
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2013 9:10:06 AM

no but i do get i get irritated at young guys like you in black trucks that think they own the road.
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2013 8:55:03 AM

I get somewhat annoyed about drivers driving under the speed limit in the left lane....never paid too much attention to their age. However, I'm more annoyed by speeders taking chances and driving recklessly.....this is more than likely NOT older drivers.
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rkt wgn
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2013 1:56:39 AM

Hemond,
I can't even begin to comprehend why you say that I discriminate against blacks,gays, and Jews, just because I mentioned that some old bitty ran my wife off the isle way in the shopping center, causing damage to her car. What in the heck has that statement have to do with what happened? If she ran you off the road , I'm sure you would have had some real choice words for her!
You need to get a life!
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2013 9:56:45 PM

rkt wagon, your wife's unfortunate experience is demonstrative of something I am increasingly aware of as I age (66): Our spacial awareness deteriorates. Only ten years ago I would be impatient with oldsters who would back-up-and-correct five times to get out of a parking space, when it could have been done in one, if they would only close the distance to the parked cars. But no! they stay 10 feet, or more, away: reverse-forward-reverse-forward-reverse-forward-reverse-and finally go.

I'm beginning to do that myself (ulp!) and I take conscious measures to note where the ends of my van are. That woman who forced your wife to the curb just didn't know where the edge of her vehicle was. Glad it didn't cost you too much. Had she hit your wife, she would likely have blamed your wife for not yielding sufficient room for her in the parking lane.

Old drivers in the left lane are there because they know just where their car is located, and are comfortable with it. This will increase as we Boomers age more.
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2013 2:55:47 PM

Well I'd Sooner see an old slow driver any day verses some clown yaking on a cell phone or text messaging.
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2013 2:17:04 PM

:::I'm more concerned with inattentive drivers, they can come at you from nearly any direction (even on the freeways).:::


Yup, even head on. No lack of people going the wrong way in the high speed lane. Particularly drunks. Very common to encounter people going the wrong way on one-way streets too.
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2013 1:02:48 PM

No problem with slower drivers, as long as they stay over in the slower speed lanes. I'm more concerned with inattentive drivers, they can come at you from nearly any direction (even on the freeways). Keep your eyes open, and be ready for anything ...
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TheJediCharles
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2013 12:46:11 PM

Age is not really the issue. Even slow drivers isn't really the issue.
As long as a driver is keeping to the right, and not going under a posted minimum, it's nobody's business how slow one goes.
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2013 11:23:54 AM

no. i just go around them.
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2013 10:46:27 AM

no
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2013 10:30:35 AM

"The problem here is your wife's total inattention to the driving environment. If she spent more time paying attention she would have never gotten in trouble in the first place."

Clearly, somebody has an inability to read;

"My wife had the misfortune of meeting an old lady in kohls parking lot, and the old gal decided to take her half of the isle way out of the center of the drive."

Comprehend, then post. It is obvious that had his wife not been paying attention, the "bitty" would have been paying to repair both vehicles...

"In addition, do you despise blacks, gays, and jews as much as old people? Would you call your mom an old bitty. The prejudice freely displayed toward old people in this country is sickening."

Wow, way to go off on a tangent that has nothing to do with anything but your own hatred... one need only scroll below to see your sickening posts regarding all young people (whereas rkt's story was about a single "bitty" - not a generalization like your sad comments).



[Edited by: Weaslespit at 8/30/2013 10:35:28 AM EST]
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2013 1:48:19 AM

QUOTE rktwgn:::::there wasn't room to spare,and my wife had to hit a small curb, which was better than being rammed by the old bitty.:::


The problem here is your wife's total inattention to the driving environment. If she spent more time paying attention she would have never gotten in trouble in the first place.


In addition, do you despise blacks, gays, and jews as much as old people? Would you call your mom an old bitty. The prejudice freely displayed toward old people in this country is sickening.




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rkt wgn
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2013 1:32:10 AM

My wife had the misfortune of meeting an old lady in kohls parking lot, and the old gal decided to take her half of the isle way out of the center of the drive . She was headed right for my wife's side of the car, and as usual, there wasn't room to spare,and my wife had to hit a small curb, which was better than being rammed by the old bitty. As it turned out, she tore a small chunk out of the tire and put a small scrape on the polished rim about 1inch long. I ended up buying a new tire, only because I didn't trust the one with a chunk out of it. Got a good deal on the tire from amazon.com for $120 no tax free shipping. My son is an engineer at a tire facility and he did a small amount of filing and smoothing of the rim edge and you can hardly see it, then he installed the tire balanced it and it was ready to go. Got lucky there
It could have cost about $500 for a new tire, rim and installation balance etc. drives as good as ever.
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kishoreCA
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Message Posted: Aug 30, 2013 1:08:20 AM

got this from another gas buddy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaIbpSaEoYc
nice one to watch.
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 10:26:18 PM

"I see old folks driving their Buicks slow in my area on a regular basis.....

I see this quite often .................."

Again - quit trolling with your auto propaganda.
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 10:22:16 PM

Not sure about "old people", but I've seen plenty of sand champaign metallic gold pearl Toyota Camry, Corolla, Sienna, and occasionally Buicks or Honda Accords driven by slow pokes of all ages. Also seen drivers of all ages drive drunk, drive slow, block lanes, swerve, road rage, ect. About the only thing I seen related to an elderly drive isnearly getting hit by somebody I thought was drunk, but by the time the police caught up, she was an elderly woman who was senile and already been in one wreck that day and very easily in the 40 minutes I followed her while on the phone with the police, she could have hit way too many people.
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 8:51:36 PM

I see old folks driving their Buicks slow in my area on a regular basis.....

I see this quite often ..................



[Edited by: contiki at 6/16/2013 8:55:19 PM EST]
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Weaslespit
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 8:01:09 PM

"Old drivers drive slow in their Buicks.............."

Quit trolling threads with your auto propaganda.
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 3:03:16 PM

Old drivers drive slow in their Buicks..............
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 1:46:45 PM

Drive around slower drivers
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kishoreCA
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 1:23:29 PM

can't agree more - bluenvoy.
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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2013 9:00:49 AM

Not always. I have seen some young men and women(especially Asian women) who are the biggest stoppers of traffic flow in the state.
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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2013 6:51:12 AM

Back off the old drivers, because there are some younger ones on cell phones that drive not only slow, but causing accident's more than any older drivers, from where I see it. I look at them on cell phones one after another talking on cell phones as I sit on my porch, and one ran into me one day in the rear, because the person was on the cell phone, besides I'm one of those old folks, and If anything, I would get a ticket for speeding, anywhere from 5 t0 10 mile over, but I've be trying to slow my roll. So There!!!!!!

[Edited by: ReddevilNO at 6/5/2013 6:57:59 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Jun 3, 2013 12:19:19 AM

I have to agree, texting has gotten really out of hand. Even with ontario's "distracted driving" law passed a few years ago, I still see lots of drivers, mainly young women, texting away! I don't mind people on phone calls so much but texting takes ones eyes right off the road. Bad news.
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Message Posted: Jun 3, 2013 12:08:23 AM

yy
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2013 11:46:12 PM

QUOTE ::: i am seeing an increase in number of drivers texting or talking on phone while driving.:::


I've personally witnessed 2 accidents now where the driver was texting. For the 2nd one I stopped and gave a statement to the police. It was a pleasure to help nail that texter. She was a 35 yo woman who didn't even realize she sideswiped her victim.

The first one I didn't stop, and I regret that decision every day. I watched the 20 something guy rearend his victim . Again he didn't realize he hit someone.

Just look around you next time you are out and about. At least 75% of people have a phone epoxied to their skulls. Or they are looking down.

It is no longer safe to ride a motorcycle or a bicycle. The texters are much more dangerous than the drunks, as texters engage in their addiction 24/7. Drunks are only out weekend nights. If you commute by bicycle its a certainty you will be plowed into by a 30 something texter eventually.


[Edited by: Hemond at 6/2/2013 11:48:23 PM EST]
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