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yodudebc

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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2011 3:03:40 PM

I've seen people stop short to avoid venturing into an amber and get rear-ended.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2014 5:17:56 PM

Having worked in a downtown office, dodging red light runners as I walked from my parking spot, I lost all desire to listen to any arguments against them. Put them everywhere, and increase the fines. Threaten my life with your car and I don't much care that you don't like being caught on film.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 9/28/2014 5:18:45 PM EST]
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krazkar
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2014 3:25:54 PM

Against.
All it does is collect money, it does nothing to solve the problem of running a red light.
Plus here many are speed on green also.
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gmc48
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2014 3:22:48 PM

Opposed.
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justinemt14
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2014 12:33:55 AM

Against.
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 10:54:39 PM

Ohio Supreme Court Slams City That Blocked Anti-Camera Vote
The law director of Maple Heights, Ohio was left with egg on his face as the state Supreme Court wholly rejected the legal arguments he came up with to block a public vote on red-light cameras and speed cameras. In a unanimous decision Friday, the six justices insisted that the city’s attempts to drag its feet and avoid a public vote on the operation of speed cameras and red-light cameras violated the clear legal requirement of the state constitution that the council put a measure on the ballot “forthwith” once the signatures are certified.
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TriniB
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 10:44:59 PM

For, absolutely.
Everyone of my GasBuddy do follow the regulation, especially for Traffic Lights. So, we are not really worried about cameras on Red Light. It's rreally for those who beak the law and even more important, a danger to orhers.
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Jackson126
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 9:28:54 PM

Against
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 7:26:16 PM

New Jersey Governor Slams The Door On Red-Light Cameras
Red-light cameras in New Jersey will almost certainly go dark before Christmas. Governor Chris Christie (R) on Thursday said that he was unlikely to support renewal of the program that expires December 16, and his approval is necessary. Christie appeared on New Jersey 101.5 radio’s “Ask the Governor” program to deliver the message to state lawmakers that it would not be worth their time to put a reauthorization measure on his desk.
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toms1120
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Message Posted: Sep 24, 2014 8:51:49 AM

Against
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justinemt14
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 5:02:42 PM

Against.
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 10:54:59 AM

New Jersey Senate Committee Votes To Ban Out-Of-State Photo Tickets
Democratic and Republican members of the New Jersey Senate Transportation Committee are in full agreement on one thing: Red-light cameras and speed cameras are about making money, not improving traffic safety. The panel on Tuesday unanimously approved a measure modeled after a South Dakota law that would immunize the state’s residents from photo enforcement tickets issued by other jurisdictions.
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2Tall
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2014 9:49:05 AM

for
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weddy11
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Message Posted: Sep 8, 2014 10:17:55 AM

against
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nichols
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Message Posted: Sep 8, 2014 10:04:08 AM

against most of the money goes to private companies
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FieroGT
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Message Posted: Sep 5, 2014 7:30:27 PM

For. Will pay for a lot more cops.
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justinemt14
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Message Posted: Sep 5, 2014 5:52:12 PM

Strongly against.
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BigHorne1
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Message Posted: Sep 5, 2014 10:54:11 AM

totally against.
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Sep 5, 2014 10:22:15 AM

Florida: City Council Embraces Accident Causing Cameras
After two years of photo enforcement use in Clearwater, Florida, the data show that accidents increased where red-light cameras were installed. At a work session on Tuesday, the city council celebrated the results.
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OilerFan
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2014 1:46:03 PM

I don't have a problem with them.
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badbobKY
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2014 1:19:18 PM

against
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nru
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2014 1:08:11 PM

They ruled them unconstitutional here - should be everywhere. Those who give up their liberties for security shall have neither.
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ggg452
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2014 12:33:07 PM

Whatever gets people to stop at a red....
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2014 12:28:09 PM

REDFLEX INDICTMENT SHOULD COME AS A SURPRISE TO NO ONE
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2014 12:27:21 PM

That the pro-camera side must resort to such tactics is indicative of the moral climate of the entire industry. If red-light cameras truly made roads safer, their supporters would not have to resort to obfuscation and numerical sleight-of-hand to justify their existence. If red-light cameras truly benefited entire communities as their supporters claim, the camera companies would not have to resort to bribery to secure contracts.
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2014 12:26:08 PM

Earlier this year the Tampa Police Department (TPD) claimed that red-light cameras had reduced crash rates by 29 percent, but a closer look at the data showed that TPD only counted accidents that occurred within 25 feet of the intersection. According to WTSP, neighboring communities use a much wider radius around intersections for accident reporting. A WTSP news investigation determined that accidents occurring between 25 feet and 50 feet from the intersection (the sweet spot for rear-enders) actually jumped 68 percent after the cameras went up.
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Aug 31, 2014 12:25:06 PM

Anti-camera activists have known about the flawed nature of the pro-camera studies for years. In fact, the academic community has roundly criticized the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, a leading camera proponent, for its shoddy research methods.

Fraudsters exist all up and down the camera revenue pipeline, and some of them don’t hide their subterfuge behind densely worded research reports and impenetrable statistical analyses. They simply rig the data and hope nobody notices.
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weddy11
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Message Posted: Aug 29, 2014 9:46:57 AM

Against. Until they do it correctly, I am against.
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EZEd
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Message Posted: Aug 29, 2014 9:37:00 AM

Red light camera companies are corrupt organizations, and should be investigated under RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act). In addition to the executives in these companies, there are hundreds of local and state politicians and police officials who have improperly accepted bribes and "campaign donations" from these companies.

Investigate them! If they are indeed guilty, put them in jail, and put them out of business!
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 10:54:18 AM

California: Red-Light Camera Companies Ignore Reporting Law
Red-light camera companies have been ignoring new reporting requirements set by California law, and the judiciary has overlooked the ongoing violation. In 2012, the state legislature adopted a measure that was supposed to “make sure that drivers’ rights are protected.” Among other things, it required camera vendors to file an annual report with the state Judicial Council listing the number of violations captured; the number of citations issued with a breakdown of how many were right-hand turns; the percentage of tickets tossed out by the court; and the number of collisions before and after camera installation.
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RBMart
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 9:41:16 AM

Against.
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lled
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 8:39:04 AM

against
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psm80134
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 8:35:48 AM

Against, on principle.
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jdmd6613
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 8:32:32 AM

FOR
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Jackson126
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 7:55:26 AM

Aganist
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pvdray
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 7:42:11 AM

against
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toms1120
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 7:16:55 AM

For
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justinemt14
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 11:44:27 PM

Against.
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 9:31:30 PM

You can apply those findings to 99% of cities across the USA...
read below:
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 9:30:12 PM

Already bruised by an ongoing bribery scandal, the City of Chicago’s red-light camera program took another body blow recently, thanks to the city’s own Office of Inspector General (IGO).

The IGO conducted an audit of the Chicago’s red-light program to “determine if red-light camera installations were made based on the Chicago Department of Transportation’s (CDOT) stated primary criterion of reducing angle crashes to increase safety.”
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 9:29:57 PM

The audit sought to answer nine specific questions posed by members of the Chicago City Council, including the following:

• Has the City installed, and is the City installing, red-light cameras in locations with the highest number of angle crashes?
• Has the City used, and is the City using accurate data in determining the location for red-light cameras?
• Is CDOT following its own prioritization steps for red-light camera relocations?
• Which City departments, consultants, and/or employees of Redflex are involved in the decision to install or relocate red-light cameras, and how?
• What is the total cost of the camera system, including installation and annual maintenance?

The findings, or lack thereof, are stunning. In its cover letter to Mayor Emanuel and other city officials summarizing the results, the IGO states the following:
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 9:29:40 PM

Our audit’s findings can be summarized in two simple points.

First, CDOT was unable to substantiate its claims that the City chose to install red-light cameras at intersections with the highest angle crash rates in order to increase safety. Neither do we know, from the information provided by CDOT, why cameras in locations with no recent angle crashes have not been relocated, nor what the City’s rationale is for the continued operation of any individual camera at any individual location.
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 9:29:23 PM

Second, our audit uncovered little evidence that the overarching program strategy, guidelines, or appropriate metrics are being used to ensure the RLC program is being executed to the best benefit of the City or the general public. Specifically, we found a lack of basic recordkeeping and an alarming lack of analysis for an ongoing program that costs tens of millions of dollars a year and generates tens of millions more in revenue.
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Aug 21, 2014 8:36:09 AM

Redflex Officials Charged With Bribery, Fraud, Conspiracy
The former head of US operations for Redflex Traffic Systems was indicted Wednesday by a federal grand jury. Karen Finley, 54, was charged with nine counts of mail fraud, three counts of wire fraud, three counts of bribery and one count of conspiracy to use bribes to win and expand a lucrative red-light camera contract with Chicago, Illinois worth $124 million.
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Manolo1
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Message Posted: Aug 21, 2014 8:35:17 AM

Two Ohio Cities To Vote On Traffic Camera Bans
Red-light cameras and speed cameras have been put to a vote at the ballot box in eight Ohio towns, more than anywhere else in the nation. Residents of Cleveland and Maple Heights on Monday submitted petitions to raise that figure to ten.
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BigHorne1
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2014 4:44:06 PM

totally against.
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gvan
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2014 4:27:42 PM

Until they straighten out the mess in this area (Chicago) I'm against them. It seems there have been short yellow lights, undetermined spikes at some locations where ordinarily there were only a few violations a day and bribery. Indictments have been served on a city official and the past president of Redflex USA.
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badbobKY
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2014 11:05:33 AM

against
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EZEd
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2014 9:59:24 AM

Against.

Where there are traffic cameras, there is corruption. RedFlex, ATS, ACS: all traffic camera companies have been caught bribing public officials. When is the US Department of Justice going to investigate these companies for racketeering?
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carinthuist
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2014 1:16:42 PM

against
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WilhamClouse
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Message Posted: Aug 19, 2014 11:08:00 AM

Against. Problem here is they are not just red-light cameras, they are also speed-on-green.
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