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Dirty_Ol_Dog

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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2014 7:17:25 PM

This may sound a bit weird, but it just might work if people get on board and participate. If you want prices to drop buy less gas. On average the two car family has a 100 liters of fuel stored in their tanks at a given time. If you just buy what you need for that day, Instead of filling up once a week of more the station will store the gas...not you.. if you get more people to do this the more gas stays in the underground tanks. If your favourite station can only buy half what they normally get a few weeks in a row. It sends a pretty clear message to the vendors that we have the last say...not them. I hope the peeps out there will join me in my BUY WHAT YOU NEED protest. I only use 60 liters or so every two weeks so I need people to join me.....are you up to the challenge?
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2014 7:35:36 PM

"since I live on the central coast of CA, where prices are so high, I usually buy 2 gal at a time."

Unless you can't afford to buy more than 2 gallons at a time, buying 2 gallons at a time is a waste of time and effort. Even if you expect prices to change between your 2 gallon fillings, and prices changed by 5 cents per gallon, the most you'd save (if prices went up after you bought a tank of gas) or would spend extra (if prices lowered after you bought a tank of gas) is about 75 cents (a 15 gallon tank).

Unless you're that consistent on saving on everything else you buy (not buying an unnecessary laptop or tablet, not spending anything on cable TV or internet services, not buying an unnecessary bottle of water or cup of coffee, not driving any amount whatsoever out of your way so you don't waste gas travelling unnecessarily, buying a car more than the absolute minimum you need (for financing and insurance reasons), avoiding any unnecessary clothing buying or entertainment you don't absolutely need, you're spending significantly more than you'd "waste" by buying a full tank of gas instead of 2 gallons at a time.

Even if your time isn't worth anything, you could easily end up spending more by driving to gas stations (and using gas) to get your next 2 gallons of gas.

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GasMiserGod
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 1:54:25 AM

Or, the gas station owners can just raise the price by a penny or two, and wait you out. You may have the final say in where, and how much; but they have the final say insomuch as, can you get away without buying fuel? I'm always amused at talk of boycotts on gas stations. Once the gas is in the ground, the carrying cost of keeping it there is static. All the owners need to do is wait until everyone has run through the boycott gas they bought, raise the price, and reap the rewards. It would make more sense, economically speaking, to buy gas when you need it. If you can keep demand static, the price is likely to drop in an attempt to drum up more business.
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xbAG
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 10:40:33 PM

since I live on the central coast of CA, where prices are so high,
I usually buy 2 gal at a time.
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the3gould
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 11:40:20 PM

by only purchasing what gas you need at the moment you run the risk of the price of gas going up then getting all at one time
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rodmiser
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 5:38:55 PM

ok
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Mikeyl
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2014 9:48:06 AM

Uh, really?

You will use more gas getting to and from a station each day (not to mention the waste of time). You are still buying the same amount of gas (for your regular travels), so what's being saved?

You need to use less gas period! Stop driving to the corner store. Let your kids ride the bus to school or (heaven forbid) WALK! Tune up your old car, lawnmower, and gas trimmers or trade them in for newer, more fuel-efficient or non-gas using models (this is easier said than done, but if you can do it, then do it!).

Use less gas - save more money. Less demand will lower the price of gas due to supply staying the same.
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DVader1138
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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2014 3:06:58 PM

This is completely illogical. Everyone will be using MORE gas this way by making more frequent trips to gas stations. Most people leave their engines running while in line for the pump. Even if most don't USUALLY leave their engines running, they will right now because it's summer and they will want to run the A/C. Either way, the stations won't be selling less gas per week, they will be selling the exact same (if not more). Plus, their daily customer count will go up. The stations with convenience stores will probably sell more items inside.
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CatwomanMN
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2014 10:28:31 AM

I would rather have a full tank of gas so I can get out of "Dodge" when I need to. And my 10 gas cans. While you are waiting in line at the gas station I will wave as I go by.
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CatwomanMN
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2014 10:21:52 AM

I've been doing this for a long time. It hasn't helped. We can only win by drilling and refining our OWN oil, then we can have prices well under $1.00 a gallon. Get rid of or tie the hands of the EPA and oust the majority of Congress and get your wish. JMO
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gasgestapo
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 2:54:55 PM

Drive less, pay less. Take the dogs for a walk to the store the next time you're craving Cheetos.
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borsht
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 10:04:44 AM

Over the long haul, buying what you need or filling up makes no difference in the amount of gas purchased.
If you make more trips to the station, you may be using more gas.

Just drive less. Ask yourself, " Is this trip necessary.
old fashioned common sense works!!
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catfish99
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 7:25:20 AM

And of course, the last statement can easily be proven false:
Gas Buddy 1 year chart
Prices peaked five times in the year before falling back, 7/20, 9/1, 11/25, 1/1, 4/20.
Prices continued to move in the same direction ten months out of twelve over the end/beginning of the month.
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Tommyguns45
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Message Posted: Jun 7, 2014 9:21:48 AM

On hot days allot of gas is wasted in "fumes" that would cost more to a customer. Best idea is dont buy gas at the end or first of month. Its always higher since they know the Pension checks are due.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Jun 7, 2014 8:20:03 AM

I don't get it. If 10 people use 10 gallons of gas in a 10 day period and they fill up on 10 different days, that is 100 gallons of gas. If these same 10 people buy 1 gallon of gas 10 days in a row, that is still 100 gallons of gas. The consumption is the same. The only difference in real life would be, do you waste more gas by hauling the excess around with you or do you waste more gas waiting in the gas line on a daily basis.
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catfish99
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Message Posted: Jun 7, 2014 6:56:43 AM

This is just the old "too many eggs" scheme. It has been debunked many times before. Here is the Snopes version:
Snopes.com
By the way, the US has storage capacity for something like half a billion barrels of refined gasoline
EIA storage capacity report
Currently there are only about 200 million stored:
EIA gasoline stocks
That leaves about 55 gallons of unused storage for each car in the US.
Don't think you are going to overwhelm them, dude.
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HeavyDuty_cache
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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2014 5:08:38 AM

Post some prices so you help your Ontario drivers find the lowest price for fuel.
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Dirty_Ol_Dog
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Message Posted: Jun 3, 2014 11:43:40 AM

" Are we up to the challenge?"

I don't know if you are up to the challenge or not, That's what you need to decide. Are you suggesting that you speak for the entire forum or is that a Royal "we"? ...never mind I think I know the answer already.

" What challenge? You didn't provide any."

Sure I did. The challenge is; are you willing to spend a few extra minutes a day, or every other day, at the gas station to keep as much gas in their tanks and not in the tanks of everyone's vehicles. If the gas station owner normally gets X amount every few days, then by forcing them to store the gas you would normally buy in their tanks instead of you keeping it, they will have to cancel a refill tanker. If it happens often enough and at enough stations the only thing oil companies can do is either cut production, or lower prices to encourage sales.

" First, you're not telling anyone to use less fuel"

You're absolutely correct I'm not telling people to do anything, I leave that up to those who think they know it all to do the "telling" I'm just offering suggestions and ideas, in the hopes of starting a conversation on the subject maybe even getting others to do the same.
The idea isn't to use less gas, but to change where the bulk of the gasoline is stored. At $3.60 a gallon in the states, or $1.30 a liter in Canada, I don't think there are many people left out there that haven't cut their consumption to the bone.

"So you're suggesting that instead of buying X amount every week (or two weeks, or whatever), you buy half that, so it lasts you half the length of time between normal fill-ups, and you end up buying gas twice as often as you did before."

That's close, but no cigar. I'm suggesting people only buy what they need for that day or two days. If enough people choose to purchase their fuel this way, I think the effect will be felt by the station owner, and his supplier. It will certainly inconvenience the protester though.

If you are happy with saving 50 cents a tank , rushing from one station to the next because they drop their gas price by a penny, then good for you and keep up the good work "gas price posting" I just think the real benefactor is the station owner, he gets all kinds of people trying to save a penny.

If any real change is to be made, there has to be a real effort made, I'm not knocking the price poster they do a great job of remembering the price until they get home and punch it into the computer. I don't do it because it's usually hours from the time I get fuel and when I'm able to relay the information.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2014 8:32:01 PM

Are we up to the challenge?

What challenge? You didn't provide any. After nearly a year on this website, rather than post gas prices to help your fellow Ontario Gas Buddy members be more knowledgeable shoppers, you offer a suggestion that's been made numerous times before.

First, you're not telling anyone to use less fuel than they're currently using. What you're saying is hold off buying a full tank of gas, and somehow that will cause the gas stations to a problem with ordering. Let's make it simple. You use 60 liters every two weeks. So what you're saying is that you use 30 liters a week. Unless you're not driving, and therefore not using gas, if you only buy 30 liters of gas, that will only last you half your normal shopping time, meaning that at the end of the first week, you'll have used your gas (half of what normally lasts you two weeks) and you'll need to get another 30 liters to use for week 2 (the other half of what you'd normally get, that would normally last you two weeks).

So you're suggesting that instead of buying X amount every week (or two weeks, or whatever), you buy half that, so it lasts you half the length of time between normal fill-ups, and you end up buying gas twice as often as you did before.

So what message does this get across to anyone? Even if gas stated in the underground tanks for a couple extra days, it's not a serious impact because you're still using the same amount of gas over the long run. It's no different than a gas station being closed for several days Christmas or because of bad weather. If you're still driving the same amount, then you're eventually using the same amount of gas, the only difference is if you get it today or you get it in a couple days.

Now, back to gas price posting......
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