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RONBLOOD

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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 2:53:00 AM

a mail campange to all 525 senators and legislators to put a halt to energy speculation and let the price roll back as fast as it goes up..
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nourdives
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2013 11:20:35 PM

Think they will listen?
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sobie76
Rookie Author Detroit

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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2013 8:34:48 PM

I all ready tell them What I think when it comes time to vote.
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: May 30, 2013 7:36:43 PM

What does a low plain around Rome, Italy, have to do with senators, legislators or energy speculation?

[Edited by: CelticHeart at 5/30/2013 7:37:58 PM EST]
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Mikeyl
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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 10:53:40 PM

Rookies!

It's his first message. Let 'em be.

Although, most posters do have a point. Speculation won't stop until it's made illegal. But, since Wall Street buys these people lunch (Morton's Steakhouse, Hyde Park Steakhouse, ya know...), that probably won't be changing anytime soon.
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DJRIO
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 9:51:29 AM

the actual number is 535 not 525. who do you think the speculator are ?
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smugutu1234
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 7:38:10 AM

Like they care.
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: May 8, 2013 10:51:16 PM

Do not have any of those crooks here just common criminals.
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kiatoindos
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Message Posted: May 8, 2013 9:49:05 PM

Their basically useless and they have government gas card
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the1roadhog
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Message Posted: May 1, 2013 7:45:08 AM

Fat chance
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sunnyz
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2013 11:39:07 PM

The congress and senators don't care. It doesn't effect them. They vote as they please, and tack on billions of dollars in spending bills to anything they do pass.
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borsht
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2013 11:12:55 AM

True speculators are a buffer and serve to stabilize prices. It's the manipulators, it's thieves who move in to manipulate the prices. This is not speculation, it is thievery done with a purpose and vergence.
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catfish99
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2013 11:42:18 AM

I agree on the political class - they are horrible with few exceptions. However, not doing stupid things like meddling with worldwide commodity markets is not shafting the "little people".
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jrfan6767
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Message Posted: Apr 4, 2013 12:42:21 PM

damn politicans always want more more more but dont care about the little people
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CptSteve
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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 9:24:25 AM

1 post and 895 points in two years being on GB?!
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smugutu1234
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2013 1:45:13 PM

A lot of the problems we are having today are because of our senators and legislators since they have their own agenda(s) in mind and not what is good for the country.
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HeavyDuty_cache
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2013 8:35:03 AM

If you think this will work, please explain how the US Congress is going to stop or ban energy speculation throughout the world?

Oil is a internationally traded commodity do you expect other countries to honor a US ban on energy speculation?

Is it just going to be a ban on speculation in the US markets or is the US going to impose its law on no energy speculation on other nations by force or just ask them nicely (Pretty Please)?
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EvergreenON
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2013 7:05:23 AM

Will it change something
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HeavyDuty_cache
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 12:30:22 AM

So you want to move further from a free market economy to a Socialist/Communist economy?

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maxstar
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 6:48:41 PM

Exactly what are you agreeing with EvergreenON?
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EvergreenON
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 5:57:22 PM

Agree
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mr_thumper
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 6:38:10 PM

Far too many politicians, on BOTH sides of the aisle, are in the pockets of big oil! Don't expect any relief from D.C.
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1OILMAN
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 1:25:59 PM

It does....just not at retail.
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catfish99
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 6:32:13 AM

And "energy speculation" keeps prices lower for many things we all use. Buying futures allows UPS to give Amazon lower shipping prices at a known cost to them, and we get the savings. It allows airlines to offer discounted prices well before a flight. It lets your local heating oil company offer you a price for the winter, so you don't get slammed with a huge increase if there is a shortage.
Boy, we need to ban that stuff.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 9:01:29 PM

Okay, but supposing that there
is energy speculation.

Three very quick questions:
First, how do you think that your e-mail campaign will stop international speculation?

Second: Why do you think prices will roll back, let alone "as fast as it goes up"?

Third, if you're saying end speculation, are you willing to say that investors, to include investment and retirement funds (of which you may be part) should no longer invest in energy?

A fourth question: Even if you get Congress to halt energy speculation, say they pass a law that there can be no investment speculation, are you willing to accept that in other fields? Such as medicine, or housing or foodstuffs, or the stock market? Or accept Congressional involvement in most other businesses?

Just wondering, as a long time member of Gas Buddy, don't you think it might be more useful to post gas prices a little more frequently for the benefit of your fellow Seattle Gas Buddy members? In two years of membership, you've averaged one gas price post every six months. If you posted only one gas price post a month, just one, you'd increase the information you're providing your fellow members by five times, helping them be more knowledgeable shoppers. That just might be more beneficial than starting a thread that says "mail your Congressmen and women" without any further explanation of such an idea might work. But that's just my opinion.

[Edited by: Gas_Buddy at 2/26/2013 9:07:33 PM EST]
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1OILMAN
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 3:17:52 PM

Will they do the same for all commodities?
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 12:22:23 PM

So the member that has only updated a handful of prices in two years of membership is now going to lead an mail initiative?
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catfish99
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 5:26:49 AM

Okay, why do you think the price of gas rises faster than it falls? The real answer, though you might not want to hear it, is you.
Consider two stations in a town, both selling at $3 a gallon. They each sell out their tanks in two days. Now, the wholesale price rises 10 cents a day for five days. Station A buys first and his price goes up, but B holds at 3. Everyone buys from B, and he has to buy a day early. So now he goes to 320, and everyone buys from A, who sells out in a day since he is at 310. He rebuys and goes to 330, which sends everyone back to B. Obviously, at the end of the week, both are going to be at the new 3.50 price.
Now, consider the opposite - it starts at 350 and drops 10 cents a day for five days. Station A buys new gas, drops to 340. Everyone runs to A, he sells out, drops to 330. Everyone stays at A, he rebuys, but has no incentive to lower his price. He is already at max business, because B is still stuck at 350. Eventually B will have to take a loss on the gas and match, but at the end of the week the price will still be higher than expected because the competition is skewed. After a couple of weeks both stations will have the same cost on gas in the tanks again, and prices will normalize.
So consumer behavior drives prices up quickly, but down slowly.
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