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Nickeybasenji

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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 11:27:18 AM

Everything that we consume is a commodity right? Gas boycotts dont work right? The proposal is to not consume any commodities for one day of the week, lets say wednesdays. It would amount to a national holiday where no one goes to Costco,Wallmart,Mcdonalds,coffee/donut/fast food places,bottled water etc..and oh yes gas stations. Just buy what you need to survive that day but not fast or convenient foods.The idea is to create a backlog of commodities.No sales,no deliveries required hence millions of gallons of fuel not used because of the backlog of commodities created by that one day of not consuming.I believe this idea would work but the glitch is to get millions of people coordinated.Ive read a lot of ideas on boycotting and i think this one is out of the box but like all the gas boycotts proposed,coordination is the key and i dont know how to do that on mass.
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33gort33
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2013 8:56:37 AM

and getting EVERYONE to do it on a specified day....good luck with that.
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1OILMAN
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Message Posted: May 1, 2013 4:23:42 PM

Any way, welcome aboard. Many of us have been waiting for the next "gaspricegenius" to arrive.
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the1roadhog
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Message Posted: May 1, 2013 7:46:59 AM

Fat chance
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Nickeybasenji
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 2:34:38 PM

Sorry i put spellcheck on but it didnt catch everything. And i think i made the word scenariolist up.
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Nickeybasenji
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2013 2:27:44 PM

So how is attacking my grammar and spelling stayoung on topic. It seems like something petty a speech writer for an american politician would do to discredit an apponent. I never made any claims as a qualified economist but then again neither has anybody else. I would welcome an economist to run a scenario that would shut me down. We all got together internationlly on Earth Day and that was just for electricity. Are we such a glutenous society that we can't do without a Big Mac, Starbucks, bottled water for a day and it would be an international effort not just north america. Yes it would probably mean some loss of wages, but when you go on strike for a case at work you don't usually make up the money you lost. It was always the intention to affect the larger retail/corporate outlets and not thje smaller ma and pa outfits. As individuals we are powerless to affect anything as a single voter.It needs to be organised as a world movement. Hey I only come up with the idea. I challenge any economist to say it wouldn't have some kind major effect. It might just clean up the air we breathe. There's been some nagative,defeatist attitudes from some unqualified scenariolists. How does that go again "Are you an american or an american't." ( Once upon a time in Mexico ,Jony Depp )
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Michael29644
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2013 11:16:58 PM

L98,

Nickey's "plan" cannot be executed any better than if you stood on the ground and tried to jump up to the moon. Occasionally, some newbie finds the Boycott forum and posts a variant of this same lame idea and thinks they've made some huge discovery. They're either trolling or severely misinformed.
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catfish99
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2013 10:37:00 AM

OK, I'll play.
Let's say Mr. Costco CEO "has a chat" with the oil companies. It would go something like this:
Mr. Costco: I want you to lower your oil prices.
Mr. OilCo: We don't set prices, we sell oil at auction. The bidders set the price. We deliver the oil to the high bidder.
Mr. Costco: Then lower your profit on refining oil into gas.
Mr. OilCo: We make about a dime a gallon. We could refine for free and it would not make a difference in retail pricing. Why not lower YOUR prices, Mr. Costco?
Mr. Costco: We make a penny or two a gallon. Looks like Nickeybasenji had a very poorly thought out plan.
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L98
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2013 10:15:36 AM

sounds good like a lot of things but execution of any plan is the hard part,especially boycotts,wildcat strikes..people talk but few actually do
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Michael29644
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2013 9:07:46 AM

I believe Mr. Spelling and Grammar Bee award winner doesn't understand if his "plan" actually did work, how much, much more money people would lose in lost wages than would ever save on gas. But I guess it's asking too much to be an economics major, too. And he wonders why everyone thinks this plan is inane.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2013 2:32:48 AM

"those who are numb from the neck up."
That was from your post. We aren't supposed to take that as an insult?
Take an economics course, see how the world REALLY works.
The economy of the USA CAN'T, and WON'T, shut down one day every week, with the rest of the world humming along.
But if I ran a gas bar, or a tv store, or a restaurant, and you could get people to forgo purchases one day a week, I would shut down that day, and pocket what I pay in expenses for an open day, because I know people would only have bought what they wanted and needed the day before, or would buy the day after.



[Edited by: rumbleseat at 4/14/2013 2:36:59 AM EST]
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Nickeybasenji
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2013 10:27:06 AM

Ok ill play your little report prices game but when i looked there were no prices listed in the box ,It might be sight glitch. Oh and i didnt start the insulting of you intelligence,I believe somebody used the word stupid in thier one word argument,so dont feel insusted if it doesnt apply.
So ,on the topic of "the economy or the business world would adjust" I absolutely agree with you but there is a huge point your missing and i think a lot of people are. If you follow it through,If Costco, to use as an example suffered a drastic loss of sales that one day each week, in the corporate world ,thats a huge efect ,and if they knew it would happen 52 times in a year there would be a lot of various corporate ceo's wanting a chat with the oil companies.Of course its all hypathetical,it would never happen.

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Michael29644
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 8:44:39 AM

"So if 20 million people dont go to McDonalds that day are they going to east twice as much the next day. are you telling me that wouldnt have a domino affect and thats just McD ."

Look up the term fungible commodity then get back with us. Or don't. All you do here is troll. You don't participate in the site in any meaningful way. You won't be missed.

"It affects the hole corperate world."

There's a corporation that sells holes? Is its name Acme?

"Oh and does anybody give a rats if gas is two cents cheaper ten miles away."

If I was going to be in the area of that station later, then yes I would.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 4:52:35 AM

Still not posting gas prices I see.
Look, I said already this "idea" was not only not new, but won't, and can't work.
You are still going to USE as much food, as much gasoline, as much electricity, etc.
Similar ideas have been proposed in various media as far back as I can remember. I remember people wanting to protest gasoline that hit 35 cents per Canadian gallon!
The truth is, it only takes a couple of cycles for the economy to adjust, and if you could actually convince several hundred million people that the retarded idea of shutting the economy down for a day would do anything concrete, supply and work schedules would adjust, there would not be a weekly mass panic to get rid of ANYTHING. Stores don't even have sale prices on day old bread any more!
Insulting us does nothing to convince us of any intelligence in your "idea", but your total lack of participation in helping members monitor gas prices doesn't make you a very valuable member.

[Edited by: rumbleseat at 4/12/2013 4:55:37 AM EST]
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olympusman2004
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2013 1:27:33 AM

could work
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Nickeybasenji
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2013 9:50:59 PM

Of course im looking for a reaction ,Mariowerkx, but not from those who are numb from the neck up. The idea wouldnt work with some consumer goods but if you dont drink a case of beer on wednesday do you drink two on thursday, ok bad example. If you dont eat two big macks on wed. do you make up for it on thurs. So if 20 million people dont go to McDonalds that day are they going to east twice as much the next day. are you telling me that wouldnt have a domino affect and thats just McD . It affects the hole corperate world. Oh and does anybody give a rats if gas is two cents cheaper ten miles away.
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2013 9:42:57 PM

This guy is just a troll posting only for reaction.
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raiste62000
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2013 3:17:58 PM

Pizza Pizza???The amount of time it would take to organize that big of a flash mob is too insane to even consider.

Second, it would take more than one day a week to achieve a minimal bump in the system.

Third, businesses will adapt and adjust their shipments accordingly.

Fourth, "insert witty headline here" enjoy the week people, its almost Friday!!!
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Michael29644
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2013 9:40:58 PM

>PatAZ do you share a brain with Michael29644 .Ok you guys win ignorence
>trumps stupid.

Do I even need to point out the irony of that post?
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Coco0828
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2013 9:20:46 PM

I don't want to walk
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catfish99
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2013 9:35:51 AM

Please post a source for your last claim, Nickey. It is absolutely false.

PS - the site was not created "so gas prices go down". It was created to show people where to find the lowest current price on fuel so they could save money.

[Edited by: catfish99 at 3/16/2013 9:38:45 AM EST]
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Nickeybasenji
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2013 10:35:04 PM

Alright.its nice to see some people have actually thought the idea through.Heres an other thought to reenforce the idea. Remember the big power outage we had a while back when the quality of the air actually improved.
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2013 6:24:37 PM

Too radical? Too stupid!
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HeavyDuty_cache
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2013 8:23:12 AM

You join the site and only make 4 forum posts, no fuel prices?

You do nothing that actually contributes to the site to help people find the lowest fuel prices. All you do is go directly to the forums.

This is another reason why topics should only be started by users with a car.

[Edited by: HeavyDuty_cache at 3/13/2013 8:25:39 AM EST]
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JustMe10
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2013 7:25:32 AM

Could work.
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scottyboy
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2013 5:09:04 PM

way too far out there
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Marc56
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2013 10:17:47 AM

I could do that.
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EvergreenON
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2013 7:06:27 AM

Good idea but will need general support
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area_51
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 3:30:57 PM

yes
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scottyboy
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 9:51:57 PM

wont ever work
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scottyboy
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 9:51:32 PM

yes
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2013 6:08:09 PM

So, based on your idea, why aren't there massive price decreases of everything after a hurricane shuts everything down?
Based on your idea, why aren't there massive price decreases of everything after a blizzard shuts everything down?
Full shelves, trucks not moving, everything is in place, arranged by Mother Nature, for your plan to work!

Strange, but it doesn't. Why? Economic reality, which could be explained by any child who has operated a lemon-aid stand or sold cookies.
You actually, haven't stopped consuming! You are just shuffling dollars from one day to the next. Remember when ALL stores and malls shut down Sundays? Were there massive price drops? No, of course not.

Don't by any means think this silly, unworkable idea is yours, or is new, it is probably many years older than you are.
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Nickeybasenji
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 10:30:21 PM

PatAZ do you share a brain with Michael29644 .Ok you guys win ignorence trumps stupid.
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PatAZ
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:39:33 PM

Uhhh stupid not radical.
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Michael29644
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 9:28:29 PM

>So it wouldd be nice if there could be a more intelligent,thought out
>argument than just "stupid".

Oh, the irony.
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 7:52:11 PM

Ignore this thread just another non-contributing member looking for a reaction!

[Edited by: MARIOWERX at 2/27/2013 7:52:51 PM EST]
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Nickeybasenji
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2013 2:11:22 PM

Ok i only had a small area to write in so if i could be allowed to elaborate. A trucker could explain to you about the delivery on time system that big box stores use to restock the shelves. So if for example if all the Costcos didnt meet 80% of their sales on a given day then there would be a sht. of trucks that didnt have to move the next delivery day right? So full shelves means they cant take any more deliveries. Those trucks arent moving so their not burning any fuel,do the math ,how many kazilion gallons is that. Everybody whines that they are powerless to affect the large corporations. woulddnt this be a way for you as an individual to affect the the price of fuel.So we are talking millions of people affecting sales of everything, yes donuts too maxstar.So if you dont have to deliver it then a backlog or surplus of fuel is created,suplus equals lower prices right? Thats just basic supply and demand math. But like i stated before how do you get millions of people to join any boycot,it has to be done on a massive scale .I'm only proposing an idea its up to someone with advertising and marketing skills to take over.So it wouldd be nice if there could be a more intelligent,thought out argument than just "stupid".I was hoping this idea wouldd expand poeple's thinking than just gas boycotts.I realise this site was created to report gas prices ,to what purpose,so the prices go down, how is that working for you.
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HeavyDuty_cache
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 12:20:50 PM

Did you join the site just to post your one idea? You couldn't even post a price or two for your area?

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Michael29644
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 11:17:16 AM

"McDoubles are commodities! Who knew?"

Does that mean I can buy them on the futures market? I could have short sold them when the pink slime story hit the news and made a fortune.
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catfish99
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2013 5:15:19 AM

McDoubles are commodities! Who knew?
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 5:59:04 PM

So the plan is that if I give up donuts for a day gas prices will drop? Let me know how that works out.
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1OILMAN
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 5:39:01 PM

If you get paid $1 per day for each day of a month does it matter if you get a lump some or actually just $1 per day? Would the entire banking system backlog because you skipped a day? Wonder why that doesn't happen when they are closed?
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Michael29644
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 4:25:16 PM

No, not a radical idea, just a stupid one. Congrats on becoming a member of the 1/120 Club(tm).
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