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Mikeyl

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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2014 9:28:53 PM

In my opinion, yes.

If you can find an older pump, look at the "odometer" just below the nozzle housing. You'll see that about 80% of all gas pumped is regular (87 octane). Second, is premium at about 13%. Coming in a distant third is mid-grade (89 octane) with about 7% or so.

Here's the rub. When a refinery switches from one grade of gas to another, they have to shut down, and then set up for the new blend. That take time.

If mid-grade gas was eliminated, could the refinery use that production capacity (including the additional production time that is gained by not shutting down the plant twice to switch grades of gas) and make more regular grade gas? Would this not increase inventories and thus, lower the price a bit?

While it might not be much of a difference, every little bit of capacity increase helps with price, right?

Think about it.
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Thumper52
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 5:30:15 AM

I have never bought it , so...
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dfp609
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 5:40:57 AM

No.
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DaddyD302
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 2:44:34 AM

I guess, since I never use it.
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estroh
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2014 12:36:33 AM

yup
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luvmyrv
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2014 8:00:44 PM

If the oil companies felt they weren't selling enough of it they would be the first to eliminate it.
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alphanyr
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2014 12:46:13 PM

yes
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rrtruck
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2014 12:04:58 PM

I don't see the point in getting gas just 2 octane points higher. I go regular (87) or premium (93), depending on prices at the time.
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TheOldMan25177
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2014 5:43:07 AM

Being a retailer myself, I would welcome the dropping of mid grade...
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estroh
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2014 12:39:39 AM

Yup
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mawtaow
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2014 7:09:32 AM

yes
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tiny1oh
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Message Posted: Sep 28, 2014 7:03:19 AM

yes, if they want
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mrhatandcoat
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Message Posted: Aug 10, 2014 12:34:53 AM

no
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SpeedyGonzoMD
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Message Posted: Aug 10, 2014 12:34:21 AM

Yep, when did you last see an auto manufacturer recommend mid-grade gas for their vehicles?
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estroh
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yup
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BroncoFans
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2014 9:50:09 AM

Yes
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wamster
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2014 9:27:20 AM

No. Some states sell 85 and 86 octane as regular fuel. My vehicle must have a minimum of 87 octane. Traveling through different states this summer, often forced me to purchase mid grade in order to meet that requirement.
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2014 7:16:13 AM

yes
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stonejd
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2014 6:59:54 AM

sure, not sure who uses them
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2014 6:53:05 AM

yes
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Message Posted: Jun 4, 2014 12:21:33 AM

yup
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CentaurChiron
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2014 3:19:49 PM

I have always wondered what is the use of it.
Anyone has an answer?
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jhome
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2014 1:42:24 PM

have never used it but unless having the mid grade raises the price of regular than I have no problem with it being offered
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2014 12:22:04 PM

No
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2014 10:19:24 AM

yes
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2014 10:01:23 AM

NO
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2014 10:00:15 AM

yes
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Dale Jr.
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2014 9:37:41 AM

Can't get rid of 89 octane in Iowa. Most stations that I see use ethanol in 89 octane and sells cheaper than 87 by about 40 cents.
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2014 6:14:15 AM

yes
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SpeedyGonzoMD
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2014 12:06:50 AM

Yep, when did you last see an auto manufacturer recommend mid-grade gas for their vehicles?
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ScottAdams5
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 11:45:45 PM

No.
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 10:03:35 PM

Doesn't matter
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herbiepopnecker
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 9:58:43 PM

No. People should stop buying cars that need it.
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rando991
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 9:32:57 PM

No they should get rid of premium
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DAWGnh
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 9:13:36 PM

no
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RAB2010
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 8:13:56 PM

Think about this -

Handcuff the EPA so that two or three new refineries can be built. That is what is needed.
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RAB2010
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 8:12:53 PM

No. If anything, the low-grade gasoline should be eliminated. It burns dirtier, and leaves more dirt in the engine. All of this is bad in the long run.
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APlus
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 7:56:28 PM

no
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 7:50:10 PM

On Apr 21, 2014 12:28:13 AM, SpeedyGonzoMD wrote:

>Yep, when did you last see an auto manufacturer recommend
>mid-grade gas for their vehicles?

In high-altitude areas, regular gasoline is 85 AKI. Many fuel-injected engines recommend 87 AKI at all altitudes. So, that means mid-grade.

When I was taking my vacation earlier this month, I stopped at a Conoco station in Bentonville, AR that dispensed 87, 88, 89, 90, and 91 AKI fuel. I got 87 AKI for $3.25 a gallon. Cheapest gas I got during my trip. Most expensive gas I got on my trip was $3.58 a gallon but it was E-0.
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 6:39:05 AM

yes
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Boyrr
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 6:35:51 AM

I don't buy it
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 6:05:59 AM

yes
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Seekingone
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 6:05:50 AM

yes
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 5:37:48 AM

no
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Message Posted: May 31, 2014 4:34:21 AM

yes
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Nuzan
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Message Posted: May 10, 2014 5:09:18 PM

Yes. I don't know who buys it.
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Message Posted: May 10, 2014 4:52:22 PM

 
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Rob655321
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2014 9:51:29 AM

I have never purchased mid-grade and don't know anyone that has. Costco got rid of it.
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Awing1
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2014 9:47:57 AM

Yes, Not many people use it. People buy regular or premium gas.
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WEPSMAN
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2014 9:45:50 AM

I use 89 all the time. Why get rid of it?
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ScottAdams5
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2014 7:55:54 AM

No.
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2014 7:50:51 AM

No
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