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TH34
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 7:26:52 AM

Amazing. A fire at a refinery had an almost instant affect on the price of fuel in Baltimore MD. The price of a gallon of regular gasoline went up 15 to 20 cents per gallon only hours after the refinery fire. Why is this exactly? Because the oil executives are scumbags of the highest order.
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nichols
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2013 9:14:31 AM

having a piss in your backyard probably causes gas prices to rise
cv
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2013 5:39:00 AM

Any excuse to raise gas prices is all it takes.
bluenvoy
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 1:47:29 PM

Dishonesty Abounds when it comes to raising the price of gasoline.
ZZZoop
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 12:51:50 PM

>>If anyone has a clue as to why the price of gas would go up 15 to 20 cents a gallon or more within just a few hours everywhere I would like to hear it.<<

TH34, do you have a clue why your claim of a 15-20 cent price increase in Baltimore is not supported by the data on this website? According to the gas price chart for Baltimore, prices started rising 5 days before the refinery fire, and spiked one day before the refinery fire. The total price increase from 11/10 to 11/17 has only been 9 cents/gal. Could it be that you're prone to exaggeration?

>>For all of these places to act at the same time it would appear there is some sort of collusion going on.<<

Well, we all know that collusion is illegal. As a good law-abiding citizen, I'm sure your reported it to the Maryland Attorney General. Make sure you follow up with a report about how the AG responded to your claim.
dfp609
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 11:15:23 AM

Just another excuse to raise prices.
TH34
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 8:36:55 AM

If anyone has a clue as to why the price of gas would go up 15 to 20 cents a gallon or more within just a few hours everywhere I would like to hear it. For all of these places to act at the same time it would appear there is some sort of collusion going on.
MertieMan
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 8:11:13 AM

I suppose now you are going to maintain that the one in Texas recently also caused your prices to elevate. They don't need a reason to raise prices, my friend.
WES03
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 8:00:33 AM

O'Malley's tax increase affected gas prices dramatically also. Tax and spend, tax and spend, tax and spend.
Dale Jr.
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 11:40:18 PM

This makes no sense.
AFOS
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 10:27:09 PM

brerrabitTX...
I tried to combat the stupidity of such posters with sarcasm, but you've probably got the best strategy (for anyone who actually reads the replies before posting). Glad you posted! We were fortunate no one was hurt (I think) in the recent Citgo refinery fire here, but it was a big event.



[Edited by: AFOS at 11/16/2013 10:28:49 PM EST]
brerrabbitTX
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 9:57:57 PM

To all those that suggest in any way shape or form that the refinery incidents are somehow set or intentional then I say to you there is a special place in hell waiting for you.

Have a friend, or loved one die as the result of a well blowout, a refinery incident or other accident in the industry as I and many others of my friends coworkers and neighbors have and then suggest their life was given for a few cents a gallon from you when next buy you next tankful. Matter of fact come on down to Texas and we will gladly meet you anywhere, anytime and you can tell us all about it.

I have been in the industry for 32 years and over that time have lost best friend from high school, a cousin, and had another one lose an arm and an eye.
Not because someone wanted to raise prices, but because finding, producing, transporting, and refining oil into gas is a dangerous, highly volitile process, and sometimes bad things happen to good people.
Camry05
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 3:13:31 PM

Maybe a knee jerk reaction
AFOS
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 2:58:45 PM

MertieMan...
You supposed they're able to predict how much damage before they light the fire and predict how much extra they will make on gas. I guess it didn't work here in Chicagoland. There was a major fire at the Citgo refinery a month or so ago which will take quite a bit of time and a lot of money to repair. Yet prices here barely rose at all. I think they lost their bet on that fire. lol
MertieMan
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 1:45:06 PM

I can't help but believe that a lot of these refinery fires aren't purposefully set to affect prices.
ZZZoop
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 1:31:47 PM

>>A fire at a refinery had an almost instant affect on the price of fuel in Baltimore MD.<<

Did you ever wonder where Baltimore gets its gasoline from?

>>The price of a gallon of regular gasoline went up 15 to 20 cents per gallon only hours after the refinery fire.<<

This website shows Baltimore gas prices spiked by a nickel a gallon. Prices were already rising before the refinery fire.

>>Why is this exactly?<<

Could it be that the mid-Atlantic states get a substantial amount of their refined petroleum products from the Gulf states via the Colonial Pipleline? Nah.

>>Because the oil executives are scumbags of the highest order.<<

Highlighting the value of a Baltimore public school education...

The refinery fire alluded to in this topic occurred at Chevron's Pasacagoula refinery (330,000 bpd capacity). While Chevron did not shutdown the entire refinery, I've not seen any reports on how much capacity was reduced.
TomB2
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 11:48:43 AM

I think it's just a pre-holiday increase, pretty normal as I see it.
forresj
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 9:57:42 AM

"...Very interesting -- I live but a few short miles from the refinery in question ..."

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It must not have been a big fire if you didn't hear about it. I doubt that there was a fire. It's probably more BS to fraudulently raise prices.

It just means that everyone needs to step up their gas conservation to another level. Show the bungholes that we can hurt them too. Don't succumb to their BS.

[Edited by: forresj at 11/16/2013 10:01:10 AM EST]
AFOS
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 9:56:39 AM

OceanArcher...
It looks like the fire in Mississippi has had almost no effect on Mississipi prices (average up a penny or two this week). They went up here more than there.

So...apparently gas prices go up more the farther away you are from any supply disruption. lol.

Or...perhaps there's another reason for the hike in Maryland.
AFOS
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 9:53:37 AM

"they" have standing instructions to light a refinery fire somewhere if gas prices get too low. lol.
Glasman
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 9:32:36 AM

why is there always a refinery fire when gas prices are a little lower ?

CURIOUS.
OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 9:24:20 AM

Very interesting -- I live but a few short miles from the refinery in question
frugalshopper
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 8:59:09 AM

Let us all stay at home this Thanksgiving. Spend as little on gas a possible, and then the prices will have to go down again. The oil companies are greedy and they must be punished.
EdPG
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 8:48:30 AM

many years ago a fire reported in a New York refinery,I rec'd a fax the
Wholesale price was up. With in an hour the fire was out new fax the price was now back to the old price.

[Edited by: EdPG at 11/16/2013 8:48:33 AM EST]
HeavyDuty_cache
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 8:31:03 AM

It looks like prices have jumped almost everywhere. I figured it was just pre-thanksgiving increases.
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