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BuzzLOL

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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 4:42:47 PM

.. Gas Buddy keeps sending us emails here claiming gas is going to $3.35/gal., and some stations did go there, but still plenty in the $2's and no reason to pay more...

.. WHY is Gas Buddy working against us..?? . More like 'Gas Enemy'...!!
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traffic cop
Champion Author Boston

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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 2:59:09 PM

I just checked Toledo OH and Toledo WA gas prices.

In Ohio, they're in the low $3 range; in Washington, they're hovering mid-$3.

I don't know what you're talking about, BuzzLOL. Unless you have some discount program, like a supermarket-affinity discount card which drops your price as you pick up shopping points.

Or are you just trying to make some kind of a splash?
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MIT05
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 7:28:52 AM

$3.40's here.
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xbAG
Champion Author California

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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 9:23:31 PM

I live on the central coast of CA.
We have not seen under 3.61 a gal for quite a while.
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BMWer
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 3:19:07 PM

No $2's in Canada...still in the high $3's
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 2:32:51 PM

BuzzLOL:

".. I know there are station owners watching this site, getting emails from this site, and even posting on here... that's no secret..."

So?

I would expect that gas station operators and owners would be on this website, just as any and everyone else, in virtually every profession is. I would expect them to look at prices, in part because it's an easy way to understand the pricing trends in their areas, as well as see the compettion without resorting to the older method - Side note: Years ago, early in our relationship, significant other managed a gas station on a military base; one of the daily weekday activities (or at least every other day) was to learn the prices for the 10 relatively nearest gas stations, and be competitive (competitive meaning X cents above average, not the lowest price, so that the base was a convenience, and not to take away business from the community intentionally. End of side note.

Why should they not get e-mails from this website? It's available to all members, some who choose to receive the e-mail notification, some who choose to not receive them.

Yes, some gas station operators and owners post gas and diesel prices on here. Some post for their own stations, some post for their own and other stations, and some gas stations, in arrangement with Gas Buddy, submit prices under the GB Direct program. Why shouldn't gas station operators and owners post fuel prices, assuming that they're posting accurate gas prices, just as we assume you (and I) and others post accurate prices?

And who said it's a secret?

Suggesting that gas station operators and owners shouldn't take part in this website is like suggesting that auto dealers shouldn't pay attention to what others in the business are doing, that Starbucks shouldn't pay attention to the competition, that Apple shouldn't pay attention to others in the computer or entertainment business, and on, and on, and on. Sorry, but I have no problem, personally, with gas station, or energy, or speculators, etc., being part of this website, providing they are following the rules of price posting.

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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 11:05:43 AM

.. I know there are station owners watching this site, getting emails from this site, and even posting on here... that's no secret...
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PithyOpiner
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 12:51:32 PM

Maybe GasBuddy sold out to the oil industry. We may all be working for the oil giants and not even know it. Holy cow, Batman!
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 5:02:26 AM

If you have pump prices in the twos, you are lucky, we don't have such pipe dreams.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 12:21:58 AM

BuzzLOL:

"The point is, the GasBuddy price raise emails seem to be aimed at psychologically softening all drivers up to the idea of a higher gas price so we will become resigned to the increase... and not resist it... and some stations instantly raise their price to the new GB predicted level...

.. As long as there is even one station still under $3... or under the predicted $3.35... I'm planning my route to go by there about once a week to fill up."

First, why would Gas Buddy have any reason to soften up all drivers to the idea of a higher price, let alone our becoming resigned to the increase? There's no incentive for Gas Buddy to do anything like that.

Second, why would gas stations raise their price, instantly or otherwise, simply because Gas Buddy predicted a price level? You're saying that gas stations - or perhaps the entire oil industry - responds to a small website, the primary purpose which is to allow members to keep each other informed for the least expensive places to shop for fuel? You're saying they don't react to market conditions and their competition, but rather to arbitrary projections by a couple of people at a website? You actually think that gas stations read that Gas Buddy sent out e-mail price projections and they raise their prices automatically, and don't care that their competition might keep prices as low as possible in order to take away the other stations' potential customers?

And yes, I know you said you're planning your route in order to find the under $3 gas station, the $2.99 a gallon gas station, that you didn't say you'll drive out of your way to go to it, but you really will plan your trip in order to find one of the only two $2.99 gas stations in your area?

If so, I hope you'e also saying that you absolutely never waste any money on anything else, whatsoever. That you have the absolute least car that meets your needs, that you got the absolute best price and the absolute lowest financing charge and subsequent insurance, that you didn't spend one cent whatsoever on any unnecessary option. And I hope you're also saying that you didn't spend anything beyond the absolute minimum for cable television (for that matter, that you don't spend anything on it), that you have the absolute least expensive telephone plan with the minimum of messaging that is needed, that you didn't spend anything more than you needed to for television or internet. And, I hope you're also saying that - if your car gets 20 miles to the gallon, at $3 a gallon (or, in your case, $2.99 a gallon), each mile driven costs 15 cents worth of gas - that you're saying that you absolutely never drive on an unnecessary trip, that you always take the most direct route in order to not waste a cent of money on gas.

Until you tell us that you are so dedicated to not spending a penny (let alone a dollar) on anything unnecessary, be it bottled water or a cup of Starbucks, a bottle of Pepsi or a donut at the pastry shop, then your telling us you're driving out of your way to save pennies a gallon is a sham.
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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2013 10:47:12 PM

.. The point is, the GasBuddy price raise emails seem to be aimed at psychologically softening all drivers up to the idea of a higher gas price so we will become resigned to the increase... and not resist it... and some stations instantly raise their price to the new GB predicted level...

.. As long as there is even one station still under $3... or under the predicted $3.35... I'm planning my route to go by there about once a week to fill up...

.. I don't care what the "average gas price" is... I don't pay that...
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AFOS
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 3:56:55 PM

I don't get any of these GB warning messages (don't need then, I do my own forecasting which from what I've seen others post is better). The point is I think you had to sign up to get these so go ahead sign off them if you don't want them.
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BUSSY
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:30:47 AM

No $2 gas here
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PDN57
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 10:21:35 AM

2 what a liter? Not that low here
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TrixieNY
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 8:04:47 AM

++ POST ++ SOME ++ GAS ++ PRICES ++ MR ++ ADDITION ++ SIGN++ THANKS ++ FOR ++ YOUR ++ COOPERATION++
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 7:13:52 AM

Gas Buddy is not working against you, they are just fore warning you of a possible gas hike within your area. I get these emails all the time.
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jcpatriots
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 7:03:12 AM

Lol. I WISH it was in the $2's here... :/
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jack4141
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 5:03:32 AM

Hmm
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gougenator
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 3:13:56 AM

$2s are coming back!!! ,keep it up!! (i mean keep up the drops!) :)
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xbAG
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 2:15:00 AM

gas here, central coast of CA. is in at 3.61 at the cheapest
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beachd8
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 1:04:51 AM

It's okay with me if the prices drop back to 3.35.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:40:11 PM

How is Gas Buddy working against you? It's merely sending you an update of an expected change. It's not as if the oil industry is saying "Gas Buddy notified it's members of a potential price increase; let's move on that and raise prices..."

What's the "Gas Enemy" for? Because they're not "claiming" that gas will go to another price than what they're telling you?

A simple check of the Gas Buddy Toledo site shows that the average Toledo gas price is $3.29 and that (most recently) prices have been rising. You wrote that there are "still plenty in the $2's and no reason to pay more. I'm not sure how many $2 gas prices you've posted recently, but the gas price charts for Toledo, as of a few minutes ago show only two gas stations selling regular for $2.99 a gallon, and many many more selling gas for $3.35 a gallon. Regardless of how you come up with there being no reason to pay more than "in the $2's" (whatever price "in the $2's is supposed to mean), and unless all the Toledo members are posting erroneous except you (and I assume you have been posting gas prices for comparison and information), it seems the facts don't support what you're saying, and the facts seem to indicate that Gas Buddy management, at least as of now, is more accurate than what you're saying in the original post.

Sorry, but there being only two stations selling gas for $2.99 a gallon seems to make your topic name, " + Sill in the $2's +" very inaccurate.

Perhaps you can post more of the $2 prices to substantiate your post.
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Buddy2264
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 11:39:35 PM

Saw @2.97 poster here briefly before the holidays, but now back into the $3.25 plus range.
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AFOS
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 10:55:32 PM

Seem to be a bunch of $3.35s posted this evening most notably by Speedway (as usual in Toledo). I guess GasBuddy was onto something.
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WEPSMAN
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 9:23:25 PM

Pushed over $3 here today.
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mr_thumper
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 5:54:10 PM

Wow, $2 a gallon? Where? I'm on my way!!! (certainly not out here in La-La land!)
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sagnat
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 5:43:15 PM

The times I have gotten a price spike warning from GB the warnings have been spot on.
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HeavyDuty_cache
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 5:03:54 PM

Who is Gas Buddy sending emails to? I never ever get an email from them.

This would be better if it was posted in your local forum since not all areas "still have plenty of the $2's and no reason to pay more..."
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