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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2013 11:47:13 AM
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traffic cop

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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 10:02:30 PM
To Hemond:
yep!
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petromonitor

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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 2:56:46 PM
Probably, never.
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Hemond

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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 2:39:21 PM
Yes it is getting to be a personal discussion, but why not? Its a better use of bandwidth and GB resources than what goes on here. After all most of the posters here don't bother to express an opinion. They just answer yes, no, maybe, never, nope, perhaps, no way, I wish, etc, ad nauseum, ad infitum. They can't be bothered, they just want gas points. Some even just type a 'y' or an 'n'. Just scan down the list of responses here. IMO they are wasting bandwidth. It is far more productive to have a personnel discussion on something unrelated than to clutter the board with meaningless one word responses. They are only interested in points. Does any sane person read them? I just scan down 'til something substantial pops up. I belong to numerous message boards and this is the only one where people post these inane single word responses. It is an abusive practice and as bad as trolling. There are several threads on the forum where posters complain about this. The mods agree it is abusive but express puzzlement as to how to change this abusive behavior. Some have expressed requiring a minimum word count. Can you imagine that? They ought to simply stop awarding gas points for posts and the one word responses would stop.
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traffic cop

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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 2:08:48 PM
Hemond, this is getting to be more personal chat than topic discussion. So I'll just say that I visited the Tahoe area when I was young and adore it. The Reno altitude and amenities would be more to my liking.
I sent you a buddy request; we might continue such discourse on the white boards.
And except for a brief, fluke price drop, we'll never see $2.00 gas again.
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slumberina

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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 5:24:46 AM
no
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twt

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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 3:56:22 AM
Not ever, again.
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Hemond

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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 3:31:50 AM
QUOTE :::Wyoming is a better state to be in if all Hell breaks loose. I'm inclined to abandon the high-tax excessively controlled Northeast, except the family connections are strong here.
If you like the idea of family connections to Boston, perhaps select Las Vegas to live. There are numerous , cheap , direct flights daily into McCarren from Logan on Virgin and Southwest and all the conventional carriers. Its pretty cheap for me to fly into Vegas from PVD so its doubly cheap from Logan. Vegas and Nevada have all the advantages that Wyoming has. Extremely low taxes and low housing costs. Its a huge city with every feature imaginable. Its not just the Belagio you know!!!! Not the best for snowboarders however, you have to travel to Mammouth MT in CAli or Brian Head in Utah. A very long drive. Nevada like Wyoming is a free thinking conservative state, you can open carry your firearms there if you desire. Crime is thus low compared to blue states. If Vegas is too big, then Reno or Carson City are choices. You can easily fly into Reno from Boston and its a short drive to Carson. Smaller cities. Slower paced. Reno has terrific access to Lake Tahoe - skiing paradise. Best of both worlds there. The wonderful landscapes and mountains of California without having to deal with the crushing taxes and insane overbearing liberal policies by living in Nevada.
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pbarbee

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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 2:55:49 AM
Probably never, but then never is not nearly as long as it used to be.
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04Ram1500

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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 12:22:00 AM
Never
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04Ram1500

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Message Posted: Apr 3, 2013 12:21:59 AM
Never
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herbiepopnecker

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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 11:04:57 PM
Sure, when the US finally switches to the metric system we will see $2 for a liter of gas
Exactly right!
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Work4aliving

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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 10:32:25 PM
Gosh is everyone drinking the "KOOL AID", the hey is happening to our country. What about our seniors, and vets, and just people in gp. Where did our backbone go, seems sometimes its turned to jelly? Did it die with all the old timers? Come on get real, we are in trouble here. Stand up, get mad, don't let them take your rights away....have they not taken enought. Where's our GRIT????? My daddy used to tell me, "girl no pain, no gain". How about it............
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Hemond

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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 7:57:37 PM
QUOTE::::Teach me snowboarding, Hemond? ::: It takes a while to pick it up. Not easy at first like skiing because your feet are locked in, the balance is extremely weird/unnatural, and you are moving sideways. It took me 3 visits to the slope on 3 different days before I was able to stand up on a snowboard. If you are physically fit there is no reason you can't learn to ride though. It isn't just for teens. I see guys all ages riding, including grandpas. Since you are in Boston, go to Wachussetts some evening. They have a nice learning area separated from the main slopes. Over on the left side. Don't even buy a ticket. JUst go over to the learning area and try to doodle around. Walk up 20 feet, put one foot in and try to stand up, skate around. Like I said it might take you a couple of visits. Prepare to be exhausted. Quit after at most 2 hours of falling down and go home. You will be saying to yourself "How the blank can anyone stand up on this thing." I guarantee about the 3rd visit you will suddenly be able to stand up and slide. If you can't borrow a snowboard from someone, go into the ski lodge/school and rent a board for the evening. After you get the ability to slide, you have to judge how far up the mountain you can comfortably go. May as well stay at Wachusetts. Buy a lower mountain ticket and stick to the green slopes for a season.
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redx590

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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 7:17:35 PM
nope x(
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Bill0925

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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 7:08:57 PM
Sure, when the US finally switches to the metric system we will see $2 for a liter of gas
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Lalaann

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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 10:53:04 AM
Hopefully not!
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tkawashima

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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 10:47:16 AM
no
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traffic cop

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Message Posted: Apr 2, 2013 10:35:51 AM
Wyoming is a better state to be in if all Hell breaks loose. I'm inclined to abandon the high-tax excessively controlled Northeast, except the family connections are strong here.
There's a book titled, "How To Make Money Like A Republican." One of the first pieces of advice: Move to a red state! You can keep more of your money so you don't subsidize lay-abouts and illegals so much.
The idea of pulling up stakes and setting up an extended-family spread in a place like Wyoming is certainly appealing. And if I install a 500-gallon gasoline storage tank I don't have to get five regulatory agencies' stickers on it.
Teach me snowboarding, Hemond?
[Edited by: traffic cop at 4/2/2013 10:40:11 AM EST]
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Hemond

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 7:08:38 PM
QUOTE::::Assoc. Justice Kagan has said she admires much in Europe, and believes that US Courts should include other nations' case law as valid precedents for US law, thus trumping the US Constitution. (And to think she got confirmed!)::: Isn't this an astounding statement? Justice Kagan lives in a country where her 1st Amendment rights allows even a US Supreme Ct. Justice make what is essentially a treasonous statement. QUOTE :::Take a look at parts of Wyoming this past winter who got into the $2.50 range.::: And what state is neighbors to the Bakken deposit? Oil pumped from the Williston basin gets cheaply and quickly trucked over to one of the refineries in Wyoming and then another short truck to local distributors. Also, being a business friendly and low tax state makes a difference. Don't forget the low state gas tax too. Hmm, why am I living in my own state? High taxes, business hating, sanctuary city, welfare magnet state? Hmmm, also skiing is terrific in Jackson Hole. Hmmm.
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jcpatriots

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 5:55:08 PM
As a national average? Absolutely not. In local areas? Probably. Take a look at parts of Wyoming this past winter who got into the $2.50 range.
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traffic cop

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 2:07:59 PM
Hemond, I think work4aliving is on to something.
Obama and his element have long admired the "soft socialism" of the European model. This was a major impetus to Obamacare. (I acknowledge that after it went through the political meatgrinder, it's more hybrid than "Euro.")
Steven Chu at the beginning of the first term said he wanted to see US gas prices "more in line" with European. With a new Sec'y of Energy coming in, we'll see what happens. The current nominee, Prof. Earnest Muniz of MIT, is known to have very strong corporate ties to "big oil," BP especially.
Assoc. Justice Kagan has said she admires much in Europe, and believes that US Courts should include other nations' case law as valid precedents for US law, thus trumping the US Constitution. (And to think she got confirmed!)
Obama has 4 years to advance a Euro-vision for the US. It may not be called Euro-socialism, but look for such elements to be brought in.
Including Euro-style taxes on gasoline.
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weddy11

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 9:44:17 AM
No
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streetirsx

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 9:35:42 AM
Never
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Hemond

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 8:15:11 AM
QUOTE ::::Its just talk now, but they are talking about bumping up the gas tax to 1.10 ::: The US has its own law and last I looked we don't grovel at the feet of European law. That figure is the recommendation of the IMF. An international body of Euro quasi-intellectuals who think they know best how to mind everyone else's business. Although Obama would no doubt like to grovel at the feet of yet another European group, he knows this time it would be going too far. If he tried this people would burn the White House to the ground.
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GustheCat2

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 7:41:00 AM
No
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Work4aliving

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 4:42:14 AM
Its just talk now, but they are talking about bumping up the gas tax to 1.10 that means 5.00 or more a gallon. What the heck is it going to take to get these jerks out of office. Get off you gas butts and get out there and vote. Good gosh. We have a chance to turn it around, although small we still have it. Come on ya all, I know as Americans we can come together no matter which side you sleep on.
We have been down this road before and came together as a people, we can and I will believe we will do it again.
[Edited by: Work4aliving at 4/1/2013 4:45:07 AM EST]
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olympusman2004

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 3:57:30 AM
n
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holymasamune

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 2:15:44 AM
no
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jks21

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Message Posted: Apr 1, 2013 12:06:54 AM
LOL
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fiberguy

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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2013 11:35:32 PM
no
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RalphHightower

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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2013 8:17:46 AM
I wish.
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MIT05

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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2013 7:28:50 AM
Yes.
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RadarIN

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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2013 7:06:01 AM
no
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DanFMA

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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2013 6:30:28 AM
Never again.
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RNF

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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2013 6:22:07 AM
No
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catladyNM

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Message Posted: Mar 31, 2013 2:06:01 AM
We can always hope!
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traffic cop

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 11:58:19 PM
Good points, Hemond. For decades we got used to the Soviet empire and the Berlin wall, taking them for granted and assumed they would always be with us.
BUT...
Untold millions of lives were ruined because of that evil system--and millions were murdered outright. And a lot of our blood and treasure was spent containing that threat.
The same applies to China, and more so. We're talking billions of ruined and destroyed lives.
Lastly--when these evil regimes implode, there is no assurance that liberal democracy will replace them. Just consider the increasingly totalitarian Putin. And look at what's replacing Middle Eastern dictators?
Sure makes me grateful for what we (still) have here in North America. I guess I can cope with these gas prices...
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jonjon57

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 11:57:47 PM
No
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Julassa

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 8:47:02 PM
No way. I wish, but nope.
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Hemond

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 4:33:28 PM
Yup, the oil commodity market will collapse when China collapses. China is in the midst of totally unsustainable growth. It can't continue at a blistering pace. They can't continue building a new coal fired electric plant each week nor more ghost cities indefinitely. They are doomed to collapse. Plus they have no female children coming along to marry and produce a new generation of workers to sustain the elderly generation. They are a dead end society. When they collapse, so will all the commodity markets, oil, copper, steel, coal, currently being sucked up worldwide.
[Edited by: Hemond at 3/30/2013 4:34:40 PM EST]
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stlhawk

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 3:28:11 PM
Not in my lifetime.
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Maxer105

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 2:29:41 PM
no
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beachd8

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 2:25:31 PM
When a politician figures out how to tax breathing, he/she will do it . . . no, we won't see gas at $2 per gallon unless we're watching an old TV show or movie.
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Hemond

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 2:20:50 PM
QUOTE :::Can we please dispense with the third grade level drivel. You're supposed to be a grown-up. Right? ::: Now that I've reworded my response in a more mature way, do you have a mature response to my premise that raising gas taxes is the last thing most politicians will do? The feds haven't done it since 1993. Most states haven't done it in 10 years or more. A handful of states have raised it of late. But the politicos did it the same way they handle pig manure. With distaste. And they are holding their breath for the next ballot box.
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Boyrr

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 2:10:09 PM
maybe in your dreams
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davisadm

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 2:01:44 PM
I think we all know the answer to this question.
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crmedic

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 1:37:45 PM
I don't think so! New government regulations, increasing fuel taxes and corporate greed will make sure that we never see $2.00 gasoline.
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Hemond

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 1:25:32 PM
::::That will be the day when we are switching to the metric system and using the Liter measurement. $ 2.00 per Liter = about $ 7.50/gallon. Its coming, just wait ...::: Thank goodness the metric system switch failed. There is no good reason to go to metric. The only reason it was attempted is more of the nonsensical Euro-worship that permeates those in power.
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Hemond

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Message Posted: Mar 30, 2013 1:20:59 PM
QUOTE :::Can we please dispense with the third grade level drivel. You're supposed to be a grown-up. Right? ::: Very well , I will express it more maturely. I wouldn't put anything past the present occupant of the White House, the People's House which he has currently placed off limits to us little people. An occupant who seemingly worships at the altar of European superiority , an occupant who bows to rulers of foreign states. An occupant who pushes his green agenda at any cost including the bankruptcy and impoverishment of the US citizen. No, I wouldn't put anything past the current occupant.
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