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MikeCapeCoral
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 12:35:18 AM

Are BP stations being converted to Shell or other provider in your area? At least two here in SW Florida so far.
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skydone7
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Message Posted: Jul 29, 2013 12:58:01 PM

Not around here.
MikeCapeCoral
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2013 12:33:22 AM

Thanks for all the good posts to this question.
MertieMan
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Message Posted: May 13, 2013 5:09:56 AM

It doesn't matter if they become Joe Blows, the gas is still all the same, coming from the same terminal.
63pioneer
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Message Posted: May 13, 2013 4:45:36 AM

Haven't seen any yet!
streetirsx
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Message Posted: May 7, 2013 7:23:28 PM

Not sure, but here in the Northern Plains Marathon stations have started to become Shell stations
KrispyKreme
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Message Posted: May 7, 2013 3:37:55 PM

Marathon bought BP's Texas City refinery, but that's it. BP continues to operate it's retail outlets in the southeast though, those were not sold to Marathon. Sometimes brand changes simply have to do with a regional convenience store chain switching brands.
1OILMAN
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Message Posted: May 7, 2013 3:17:57 PM

Word is Marathon has bought out BP in the south east.
MIT05
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Message Posted: May 7, 2013 6:07:16 AM

Have not heard, we still have BP & Shell here.
pbarbee
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Message Posted: May 7, 2013 2:40:13 AM

Yes, lots of our BP stations are now Shell
borsht
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Message Posted: May 7, 2013 2:39:01 AM

Nearly all the old BP stations have changed to independents in North California.
sagnat
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Message Posted: May 7, 2013 1:38:10 AM

We don't have any BP stations in my area.
51stovi
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Message Posted: May 6, 2013 10:16:15 AM

Have not seen this happening in the Nashville area.
gvan
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Message Posted: May 6, 2013 10:01:19 AM

Haven't seen any trend of any conversions in this area.
bluenvoy
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Message Posted: May 6, 2013 9:36:24 AM

Not here. Many are run by Mapco.
Dale Jr.
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Message Posted: May 6, 2013 9:29:58 AM

Not here.
RNF
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Message Posted: May 6, 2013 6:42:15 AM

No change here.
DanFMA
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Message Posted: May 6, 2013 5:49:32 AM

Had a Getty become BP.
BulletRC
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Message Posted: May 6, 2013 5:16:34 AM

In this area, Mobile, Alabama, I know of one BP that converted to Shell, another BP converted to Citgo.
danindenver
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Message Posted: May 4, 2013 5:53:20 PM

Actually, this has been in the works for years.
All of the BP stations in Colorado went away in 2006.
I remember because I did audits on some of them to check the progress of the conversions.

It's a shame, too, because I loved the coffee bars at the BP stations.
I never went to them before the change, because I never realized that any gas station could have decent coffee.
Ours changed to Conocophillips, and again, just don't have any concept of what fresh coffee is all about.

1OILMAN
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 2:22:54 PM

Word is BP has sold its assets in the southeast to Marathon. That will require a lot of rebranding.
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 8:20:43 AM

Not that I've seen in Wisconsin
RalphHightower
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 6:13:10 AM

A BP converted to Marathon last year
MIT05
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 5:41:58 AM

Have not heard of this here.
vulcan96
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 5:01:18 AM

not here in oHIo
Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 11:55:09 PM

On Dec 13, 2012 10:27:15 AM, BuzzLOL wrote:

>.. Speedway is one of the 10 offbrand names that Marathon sells under...

Marathon Petroleum uses only two brand names: Marathon and Speedway. They acquired other chains, but converted them to either Marathon or Speedway.
Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 11:46:19 PM

We went through a conversion a few years ago where nearly all the Texaco stations changed to something else, usually Shell. This was a FTC condition on the merger of Chevron and Texaco. Toward the end of the transition period, "Texaco with Techron" popped up for the Texaco stations that decided to get fuel from Chevron. They were theoretically promoting competition, but they left Houston with an awful lot of Shell stations.
Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 9:56:45 PM

On Jan 13, 2013 7:59:26 AM, MertieMan wrote:

>Brand names mean absolutely nothing as the gas all comes from
>one terminal within a given area such as yours.

May be true in your area, but you can't generalize for the whole country.

We had some rookie on here who tried to tell us there was no difference between 87 and 89 octane gasoline either. Well, the Texas Department of Agriculture had better not catch them pulling that stunt.
DI
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 4:47:57 PM

MertieMan claims "Brand names mean absolutely nothing as the gas all comes from one terminal within a given area such as yours."

While the latter is a true statement ("the gas all comes from one terminal within a given area such as yours"), the former is not necessarily true ("Brand names mean absolutely nothing").

Additives are blended into the generic gasoline at the terminal. Some stations only use the EPA LAC (Lowest Additive Concentration); branded stations (BP, Shell, etc.) use their own proprietary additive package.

==

BuzzLOL writes "Speedway is one of the 10 offbrand names that Marathon sells under."

Speedway is a whole-owned subsidiary of Marathon. As one of the largest c-store chains (1,400 stations), I'm not sure I'd call it an "offbrand".

"Shell is actually foreign Royal DUTCH Petroleum company."

And, to be fair, you should probably capitalize "Royal" also. Royal Dutch Shell is somewhat unique in that it has co-headquarters in The Hague, Netherlands and in London, England.
MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 8:59:26 AM

Brand names mean absolutely nothing as the gas all comes from one terminal within a given area such as yours.
2Tall
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 4:18:40 PM

not here
BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 11:27:15 AM

.. BPs (they don't want you to realize that stands for foreign British Petroleum) being converted to APs (AMERICAN Petroleum company) around here... AP currently at $2.89/gallon here...

.. Speedway is one of the 10 offbrand names that Marathon sells under...

.. Shell is actually foreign Royal DUTCH Petroleum company...
dangasman
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 5:01:56 PM

our station was bp until last feb. no sign all summer, now changing to marathon around here 14 stations in all.
JCLNC
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:58:40 AM

I haven't seen any changes in Greensboro, NC.
PaylessKY
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:29:48 AM

Those BP may be franchise station with the agreement having run out or are under new ownership. In my area several Shell stations formerly owned by Road Ranger were sold to Speedway. Speedway put there own brand name on the stations.
MikeCapeCoral
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:22:18 AM

A big thank you to all of you that replied to this question.
Merry Christmas.
medic6133
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 5:17:21 PM

The BPs around here (Westchester, NY) don't seem to have changed.
borsht
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 5:13:50 PM

Im my area the BP's I'm familiar with became small independant regional dealers
maxstar
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 4:46:19 PM

Gas_Buddy explained it pretty clearly. The franchise agreement probably expired and the other company had a better deal. I would not base a trend on two stations.
BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 4:11:26 PM

.. Shells becoming Marathons, Valeros, Stop&Shops, Speedways, and Stop'n'Go's here... Most BPs and Shells priced 40c above other stations, so with no or few customers, they're being ditched...
BUSSY
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 2:38:19 PM

No BP stations in this area.
Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 12:37:44 PM

Are you asking if they're being converted as it being a company changing one of it's brands or signs to another name, then the answer is no. BP and Shell are entirely separate companies.

Gas stations owners/operators often own multiple stations, sometimes the same brand, sometimes different brands, just as different brands of auto dealerships are owned/operated by the same company. As franchising agreements run out (just like car leases, apartment leases, cable or mobile phone contracts or internet agreements), gas station operators sometimes will change brands because the new franchise will cost less, provide more support, etc. While gas station owners/operators don't frequently change brands (because they build up name recognition in the community), stations do change brands without any hidden motives.

And, it's also possible that BP or Shell (or any other distribution line) might decide to change their marketing strategy and reduce or increase its presence in a given market.

Note that there are (I believe) about 6,800 gas stations in Florida (as an example, there are more than 200 in the city of Orlando alone). To simply say that two two gas stations in southwest Florida, a very large area, changed from one brand to another isn't really significant unless you have more to add to your original post.
OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 11:36:39 AM

Still two separate companies here in south Mississippi
WEPSMAN
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 10:33:35 AM

Still BP here.
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 8:57:40 AM

Haven't seen any around here. But east of the Rockies BP has discontinued its relationship with the am pm convenience store chain. Maybe some of the stations took that opportunity to change gasoline brands as well if their contract was up.
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 8:32:10 AM

not here
LKnight598
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 8:30:35 AM

I wish! I use the BiLo fuel discount card and it's only accepted at Shell stations at the present time. Unfortunately, the only Shell stations are on the other side of town, but we have several BP stations on the near us on this side of town. It would be great if they did!
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 8:18:39 AM

not here
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 8:02:58 AM

not here
RadarIN
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 7:04:23 AM

They are changing them here.
jes
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 6:54:37 AM

Not where I live.
RalphHightower
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 5:42:05 AM

I haven't seen any changing brands.

[Edited by: RalphHightower at 12/10/2012 5:42:55 AM EST]
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