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MikeCapeCoral Champion Author Cape Coral Posts:1,911 Points:415,845 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 12:35:18 AM Ignore MikeCapeCoral Report Abuse Are BP stations being converted to Shell or other provider in your area? At least two here in SW Florida so far.

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Are BP stations being converted to Shell or other provider in your area? At least two here in SW Florida so far.

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MertieMan Champion Author Lexington Posts:14,763 Points:2,891,385 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: May 13, 2013 5:09:56 AM Ignore MertieMan Report Abuse It doesn't matter if they become Joe Blows, the gas is still all the same, coming from the same terminal.
63pioneer Champion Author Texas Posts:1,000 Points:52,380 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: May 13, 2013 4:45:36 AM Ignore 63pioneer Report Abuse Haven't seen any yet!
streetirsx Veteran Author North Dakota Posts:322 Points:119,700 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: May 7, 2013 7:23:28 PM Ignore streetirsx Report Abuse Not sure, but here in the Northern Plains Marathon stations have started to become Shell stations
KrispyKreme Champion Author Richmond Posts:18,537 Points:2,902,760 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: May 7, 2013 3:37:55 PM Ignore KrispyKreme Report Abuse Marathon bought BP's Texas City refinery, but that's it. BP continues to operate it's retail outlets in the southeast though, those were not sold to Marathon. Sometimes brand changes simply have to do with a regional convenience store chain switching brands.
1OILMAN Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,069 Points:154,810 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: May 7, 2013 3:17:57 PM Ignore 1OILMAN Report Abuse Word is Marathon has bought out BP in the south east.
MIT05 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,147 Points:1,387,325 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: May 7, 2013 6:07:16 AM Ignore MIT05 Report Abuse Have not heard, we still have BP & Shell here.
pbarbee All-Star Author North Carolina Posts:560 Points:1,382,865 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: May 7, 2013 2:40:13 AM Ignore pbarbee Report Abuse Yes, lots of our BP stations are now Shell
borsht All-Star Author Oakland Posts:774 Points:185,905 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: May 7, 2013 2:39:01 AM Ignore borsht Report Abuse Nearly all the old BP stations have changed to independents in North California.
sagnat Champion Author Riverside Posts:1,134 Points:303,510 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: May 7, 2013 1:38:10 AM Ignore sagnat Report Abuse We don't have any BP stations in my area.
51stovi Sophomore Author Nashville Posts:113 Points:80,165 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: May 6, 2013 10:16:15 AM Ignore 51stovi Report Abuse Have not seen this happening in the Nashville area.
gvan Champion Author Chicago Posts:21,495 Points:2,832,090 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: May 6, 2013 10:01:19 AM Ignore gvan Report Abuse Haven't seen any trend of any conversions in this area.
bluenvoy Champion Author Nashville Posts:14,934 Points:1,873,190 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: May 6, 2013 9:36:24 AM Ignore bluenvoy Report Abuse Not here. Many are run by Mapco.
Dale Jr. Champion Author Illinois Posts:16,204 Points:3,232,075 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 6, 2013 9:29:58 AM Ignore Dale Jr. Report Abuse Not here.
RNF Champion Author Indiana Posts:7,087 Points:2,869,980 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: May 6, 2013 6:42:15 AM Ignore RNF Report Abuse No change here.
DanFMA Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:1,091 Points:1,068,485 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: May 6, 2013 5:49:32 AM Ignore DanFMA Report Abuse Had a Getty become BP.
BulletRC Sophomore Author Mobile Posts:121 Points:253,845 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: May 6, 2013 5:16:34 AM Ignore BulletRC Report Abuse In this area, Mobile, Alabama, I know of one BP that converted to Shell, another BP converted to Citgo.
danindenver Champion Author Denver Posts:5,472 Points:1,233,995 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: May 4, 2013 5:53:20 PM Ignore danindenver Report Abuse Actually, this has been in the works for years. All of the BP stations in Colorado went away in 2006. I remember because I did audits on some of them to check the progress of the conversions. It's a shame, too, because I loved the coffee bars at the BP stations. I never went to them before the change, because I never realized that any gas station could have decent coffee. Ours changed to Conocophillips, and again, just don't have any concept of what fresh coffee is all about.
1OILMAN Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,069 Points:154,810 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 2:22:54 PM Ignore 1OILMAN Report Abuse Word is BP has sold its assets in the southeast to Marathon. That will require a lot of rebranding.
Cihl All-Star Author Wisconsin Posts:545 Points:197,645 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 8:20:43 AM Ignore Cihl Report Abuse Not that I've seen in Wisconsin
RalphHightower Champion Author South Carolina Posts:3,284 Points:685,480 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 6:13:10 AM Ignore RalphHightower Report Abuse A BP converted to Marathon last year
MIT05 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,147 Points:1,387,325 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 5:41:58 AM Ignore MIT05 Report Abuse Have not heard of this here.
vulcan96 Champion Author Ohio Posts:26,871 Points:3,099,750 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 5:01:18 AM Ignore vulcan96 Report Abuse not here in oHIo
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,246 Points:2,139,175 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 11:55:09 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Dec 13, 2012 10:27:15 AM, BuzzLOL wrote: >.. Speedway is one of the 10 offbrand names that Marathon sells under... Marathon Petroleum uses only two brand names: Marathon and Speedway. They acquired other chains, but converted them to either Marathon or Speedway.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,246 Points:2,139,175 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 11:46:19 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse We went through a conversion a few years ago where nearly all the Texaco stations changed to something else, usually Shell. This was a FTC condition on the merger of Chevron and Texaco. Toward the end of the transition period, "Texaco with Techron" popped up for the Texaco stations that decided to get fuel from Chevron. They were theoretically promoting competition, but they left Houston with an awful lot of Shell stations.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,246 Points:2,139,175 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 9:56:45 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Jan 13, 2013 7:59:26 AM, MertieMan wrote: >Brand names mean absolutely nothing as the gas all comes from >one terminal within a given area such as yours. May be true in your area, but you can't generalize for the whole country. We had some rookie on here who tried to tell us there was no difference between 87 and 89 octane gasoline either. Well, the Texas Department of Agriculture had better not catch them pulling that stunt.
DI Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:20,164 Points:4,144,335 Joined:Apr 2001	Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 4:47:57 PM Ignore DI Report Abuse MertieMan claims "Brand names mean absolutely nothing as the gas all comes from one terminal within a given area such as yours." While the latter is a true statement ("the gas all comes from one terminal within a given area such as yours"), the former is not necessarily true ("Brand names mean absolutely nothing"). Additives are blended into the generic gasoline at the terminal. Some stations only use the EPA LAC (Lowest Additive Concentration); branded stations (BP, Shell, etc.) use their own proprietary additive package. == BuzzLOL writes "Speedway is one of the 10 offbrand names that Marathon sells under." Speedway is a whole-owned subsidiary of Marathon. As one of the largest c-store chains (1,400 stations), I'm not sure I'd call it an "offbrand". "Shell is actually foreign Royal DUTCH Petroleum company." And, to be fair, you should probably capitalize "Royal" also. Royal Dutch Shell is somewhat unique in that it has co-headquarters in The Hague, Netherlands and in London, England.
MertieMan Champion Author Lexington Posts:14,763 Points:2,891,385 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jan 13, 2013 8:59:26 AM Ignore MertieMan Report Abuse Brand names mean absolutely nothing as the gas all comes from one terminal within a given area such as yours.
2Tall Champion Author Maryland Posts:12,757 Points:2,937,380 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 4:18:40 PM Ignore 2Tall Report Abuse not here
BuzzLOL All-Star Author Toledo Posts:898 Points:25,565 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 11:27:15 AM Ignore BuzzLOL Report Abuse .. BPs (they don't want you to realize that stands for foreign British Petroleum) being converted to APs (AMERICAN Petroleum company) around here... AP currently at $2.89/gallon here... .. Speedway is one of the 10 offbrand names that Marathon sells under... .. Shell is actually foreign Royal DUTCH Petroleum company...
dangasman Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,018 Points:1,662,460 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 5:01:56 PM Ignore dangasman Report Abuse our station was bp until last feb. no sign all summer, now changing to marathon around here 14 stations in all.
JCLNC All-Star Author Greensboro Posts:902 Points:218,460 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:58:40 AM Ignore JCLNC Report Abuse I haven't seen any changes in Greensboro, NC.
PaylessKY Champion Author Kentucky Posts:8,695 Points:1,576,475 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:29:48 AM Ignore PaylessKY Report Abuse Those BP may be franchise station with the agreement having run out or are under new ownership. In my area several Shell stations formerly owned by Road Ranger were sold to Speedway. Speedway put there own brand name on the stations.
MikeCapeCoral Champion Author Cape Coral Posts:1,911 Points:415,845 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 12:22:18 AM Ignore MikeCapeCoral Report Abuse A big thank you to all of you that replied to this question. Merry Christmas.
medic6133 Champion Author New York Posts:1,108 Points:211,965 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 5:17:21 PM Ignore medic6133 Report Abuse The BPs around here (Westchester, NY) don't seem to have changed.
borsht All-Star Author Oakland Posts:774 Points:185,905 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 5:13:50 PM Ignore borsht Report Abuse Im my area the BP's I'm familiar with became small independant regional dealers
maxstar Champion Author Chicago Posts:18,459 Points:805,545 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 4:46:19 PM Ignore maxstar Report Abuse Gas_Buddy explained it pretty clearly. The franchise agreement probably expired and the other company had a better deal. I would not base a trend on two stations.
BuzzLOL All-Star Author Toledo Posts:898 Points:25,565 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 4:11:26 PM Ignore BuzzLOL Report Abuse .. Shells becoming Marathons, Valeros, Stop&Shops, Speedways, and Stop'n'Go's here... Most BPs and Shells priced 40c above other stations, so with no or few customers, they're being ditched...
BUSSY Champion Author Dallas Posts:9,882 Points:1,536,515 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 2:38:19 PM Ignore BUSSY Report Abuse No BP stations in this area.
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,947 Points:3,030,065 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 12:37:44 PM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse Are you asking if they're being converted as it being a company changing one of it's brands or signs to another name, then the answer is no. BP and Shell are entirely separate companies. Gas stations owners/operators often own multiple stations, sometimes the same brand, sometimes different brands, just as different brands of auto dealerships are owned/operated by the same company. As franchising agreements run out (just like car leases, apartment leases, cable or mobile phone contracts or internet agreements), gas station operators sometimes will change brands because the new franchise will cost less, provide more support, etc. While gas station owners/operators don't frequently change brands (because they build up name recognition in the community), stations do change brands without any hidden motives. And, it's also possible that BP or Shell (or any other distribution line) might decide to change their marketing strategy and reduce or increase its presence in a given market. Note that there are (I believe) about 6,800 gas stations in Florida (as an example, there are more than 200 in the city of Orlando alone). To simply say that two two gas stations in southwest Florida, a very large area, changed from one brand to another isn't really significant unless you have more to add to your original post.
OceanArcher Champion Author Mississippi Posts:5,683 Points:1,323,400 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 11:36:39 AM Ignore OceanArcher Report Abuse Still two separate companies here in south Mississippi
WEPSMAN Champion Author South Dakota Posts:10,503 Points:2,021,000 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 10:33:35 AM Ignore WEPSMAN Report Abuse Still BP here.
AFOS Champion Author Chicago Posts:30,369 Points:3,068,390 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 8:57:40 AM Ignore AFOS Report Abuse Haven't seen any around here. But east of the Rockies BP has discontinued its relationship with the am pm convenience store chain. Maybe some of the stations took that opportunity to change gasoline brands as well if their contract was up.
d_clark All-Star Author Grand Rapids Posts:916 Points:377,485 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 8:32:10 AM Ignore d_clark Report Abuse not here
LKnight598 All-Star Author South Carolina Posts:787 Points:182,715 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 8:30:35 AM Ignore LKnight598 Report Abuse I wish! I use the BiLo fuel discount card and it's only accepted at Shell stations at the present time. Unfortunately, the only Shell stations are on the other side of town, but we have several BP stations on the near us on this side of town. It would be great if they did!
GopherGuy88 Champion Author Ann Arbor Posts:1,330 Points:557,250 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 8:18:39 AM Ignore GopherGuy88 Report Abuse not here
Dennis783 Champion Author Des Moines Posts:13,569 Points:2,698,910 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 8:02:58 AM Ignore Dennis783 Report Abuse not here
RadarIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:5,077 Points:1,053,195 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 7:04:23 AM Ignore RadarIN Report Abuse They are changing them here.
jes Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:16,145 Points:3,348,475 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 6:54:37 AM Ignore jes Report Abuse Not where I live.
RalphHightower Champion Author South Carolina Posts:3,284 Points:685,480 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 5:42:05 AM Ignore RalphHightower Report Abuse I haven't seen any changing brands. [Edited by: RalphHightower at 12/10/2012 5:42:55 AM EST]
MIT05 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,147 Points:1,387,325 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 5:21:20 AM Ignore MIT05 Report Abuse Have not heard of this here.