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razzputinn Rookie Author Gary Posts:3 Points:285 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 1:20:18 PM Ignore razzputinn Report Abuse When the normal differential is usually 10 cents. Shell in Valpo has been charging 30 to 40 cents more for mid-grade over the cost of regular, while many other stations are sticking to the normal 10cent difference. I won't accept that pricing from Shell even though I like to support stations with a mechanic, flat tire repair and an air station to fill your tires.

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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 1:20:18 PM

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When the normal differential is usually 10 cents.

Shell in Valpo has been charging 30 to 40 cents more for
mid-grade over the cost of regular, while many other stations
are sticking to the normal 10cent difference.

I won't accept that pricing from Shell even though I like to
support stations with a mechanic, flat tire repair and an air station to
fill your tires.

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MertieMan Champion Author Lexington Posts:14,793 Points:2,896,585 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Nov 29, 2012 5:19:23 AM Ignore MertieMan Report Abuse It should be no more than .10 cents per gallon. They are ripping you off.
AFOS Champion Author Chicago Posts:30,406 Points:3,074,115 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 10:06:23 PM Ignore AFOS Report Abuse Regarding the original post. There's Speedway in your area and somehow they continue to maintain a differential of 10 cents between grades. So unless Speedway has just hiked prices you can get a good deal on mid grade at Speedway. And a super good deal on premium if you happen to need that. Since premium costs 45 cents more at wholesale today and has been 40-50 or more cents above regular for months, not sure why Speedway continues to price gas this way at the pump. Of course they offer no services, but maybe you can find a "service" station with similar pricing. [Edited by: AFOS at 11/28/2012 10:08:21 PM EST]
brerrabbitTX Champion Author Houston Posts:1,030 Points:18,285 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 9:22:13 PM Ignore brerrabbitTX Report Abuse Do you people understand business at all? Apples sell for $1 Bananas sell for $2 So a fruit salad made of 50% apple and 50% banana sells for $1.50. If prices for apples stay the same and bananas go to $3 each do you still sell the fruit salad for $1.50 or does the price go to $2? You wizards of Wall Sreet would be out of business in a week. If a retailer has a price increase what is he supposed to do? Leave the price where you like it and take a loss to keep you happy? 75% of what you all rant about goes on in every business in America and for them you think it's just business as usual but when it happens to gas prices, it's all about greed. Well do me this favor explain how exactly they are making all their money and exactly who in the supply chain is making it, I really want to know.
gougenator Champion Author Dallas Posts:29,862 Points:3,245,900 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Nov 28, 2012 8:55:42 PM Ignore gougenator Report Abuse since regular is so tightly competitive , some stations are engagung in "grade gouging" now to pad thier pockets!
Dennis783 Champion Author Des Moines Posts:13,599 Points:2,704,860 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 7:35:45 AM Ignore Dennis783 Report Abuse Here midgrade is 13 cents lower than regular (always messes up newbies who post the lowest price as regular)
myphenix Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,285 Points:363,425 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 7:30:48 AM Ignore myphenix Report Abuse sneeky
sheba24 Champion Author Long Island Posts:2,310 Points:633,030 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Nov 27, 2012 6:56:14 AM Ignore sheba24 Report Abuse Because their crooks.
bowler360 Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,980 Points:500,750 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 3:13:44 PM Ignore bowler360 Report Abuse Because they can.
brerrabbitTX Champion Author Houston Posts:1,030 Points:18,285 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 2:44:20 PM Ignore brerrabbitTX Report Abuse As another poster pointed out, what is normal? The normal should be calculate the wholesale price of regular and the wholesale price of premium because midgrade is usually a 45/45/10 blend. 45% regular, 45% premium and 10% ethanol. Unfortunately since ethanol has become the norm at 10% of your gas refiners now make a sub octane regular of about 84.6 octane. When you add 10% ethanol it become 87 octane regular. Unfortunately to make a midgrade 89 octane fuel you have to add more than 45% premium to get the 89 octane midgrade. So this raises the price. Then throw in the fact that in the midwest there is and has been a shortage of VGO. Vapor gas oil is the component that raises octane in finished gas. This has caused a spread between regular and premium of as much as 60 cents a gallon. That is priced into the mix. The spread between grades in not "normal" but in fact driven by the wholesale cost of gas.
PithyOpiner Champion Author Stockton Posts:16,215 Points:1,598,520 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 26, 2012 2:27:58 PM Ignore PithyOpiner Report Abuse I don't know, but I got 40 cents off at Safeway yesterday. Gas for $3.07 is what I am talking about.
dangasman Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,031 Points:1,665,800 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 12:21:12 PM Ignore dangasman Report Abuse we have 40 cents difference around here. a suppler went out of business that makes addatives for prem fuel.
bluenvoy Champion Author Nashville Posts:14,977 Points:1,877,640 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 8:43:39 AM Ignore bluenvoy Report Abuse 18 cents is the high here between grades. 10 cents is the low.
HeavyDuty_cache Champion Author Omaha Posts:12,980 Points:2,484,435 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 8:36:40 AM Ignore HeavyDuty_cache Report Abuse I really have not seen that. Around here Regular is usually 10¢ to 12¢ higher than our midgrade E10. We might be able to look at the situation in your area if you posted some of those 30¢ to 40¢ prices.
reb4 Champion Author Chicago Posts:19,122 Points:1,823,100 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 8:19:13 AM Ignore reb4 Report Abuse big difference. Noticed it's about 20 cents at stations by me.
WEPSMAN Champion Author South Dakota Posts:10,513 Points:2,024,475 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 9:30:17 PM Ignore WEPSMAN Report Abuse Normal here is .10 but I see a range from .05 to 15.
albie_4197 Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,031 Points:608,255 Joined:Sep 2001	Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 8:33:35 PM Ignore albie_4197 Report Abuse Sheetz don't know how to price between different grades of gas here in New Philadelphia, Ohio
nycztony85 Veteran Author New York Posts:330 Points:44,380 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 8:00:23 PM Ignore nycztony85 Report Abuse there noob
PatAZ Champion Author Tucson Posts:9,249 Points:122,380 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 7:43:07 PM Ignore PatAZ Report Abuse No one doing that here, not even that much between regular and premium.
rick_evans Champion Author Boston Posts:3,729 Points:1,034,685 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 7:31:24 PM Ignore rick_evans Report Abuse Because they can.
AFOS Champion Author Chicago Posts:30,406 Points:3,074,115 Joined:Jul 2001	Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 6:51:11 PM Ignore AFOS Report Abuse WHolesale for premium in your area (Chicago terminals) has been running 40-50¢ over regular for many months (currently 47) . "Fair" pricing would place mid grade somewhere near half way between. I gassed at a Shell today (in Ottawa IL) where midgrade was only 10¢ more than regular, but premiun was (fairly) price another 40¢ above midgrade. [Edited by: AFOS at 11/8/2012 6:53:01 PM EST]
nigelb Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,465 Points:1,392,730 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 6:18:25 PM Ignore nigelb Report Abuse Greed, plain and simple.
ricebike Champion Author New Jersey Posts:10,043 Points:1,857,670 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 6:14:47 PM Ignore ricebike Report Abuse wow, report them and find out why the huge price gap for mid-grade octane i can see that much difference between regular and premium, but between regular vs. a mixture of premium/regular blend shouldn't be that high [Edited by: ricebike at 11/8/2012 6:17:04 PM EST]
ZZZoop Champion Author Virginia Posts:16,382 Points:3,127,310 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 5:50:54 PM Ignore ZZZoop Report Abuse >>...while many other stations are sticking to the normal 10cent difference.<< Sounds like you have many other choices for mid-grade gas at a price you like. What's the problem? Your most productive action is to post as many gas prices as possible as frequently as possible.
dlgrote Rookie Author Stockton Posts:22 Points:4,120 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 5:22:31 PM Ignore dlgrote Report Abuse to take advantage of unattentive drivers.
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,984 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 3:17:45 PM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse First, I don't think there is a "normal differential", let alone it being 10 cents. Where I am currently (in Northern Florida), the "normal differential between grades is 14 cents between regular and mid-therade, and 14 cents between mid-grade and premium. At otherr stations the "normal differential" is 20 cents between regular and mid-grade, and 10 cents between mid-grade and premium. And at still other stations, there's a 20 cent difference between regular and mid-grade and 20 cent difference between mid-grade and premium. Second, razzputinn, you wrote "I won't accept that pricing from Shell..." You haven't said anything about which grade of fuel you buy, regular or mid-grade, but if you buy regular, why be concrened about what the station charges for mid-grade. And if you buy mid-grade, simply base your buying on price (if that's the most important thing to you) rather than basing your buying on what's not "normal differential". But if you live in the area you don't know "Why are some stations charging FORTY cents more for midgrade", chances we, across the United States and Canada don't know about the pricing at one specific Shell station in Valpo (wherever that is). Ask the gas station how they came about their pricing; if anyone can answer your question about one specific gas station, that one specific gas station should be able to. Now...how about posting prices for the gas stations in Valpo? [Edited by: Gas_Buddy at 11/8/2012 3:21:05 PM EST]
BuzzLOL All-Star Author Toledo Posts:902 Points:25,645 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 1:37:21 PM Ignore BuzzLOL Report Abuse .. There was a push a couple years back to make the difference between grades 20c, but it mostly failed around here and nearly every station is back to 10c jumps... .. I think some stations figure if you bought a premium car that requires an octane above regular, then you can afford 20c - 40c jump in price for your gas...