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RayRay0508
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 11:40:29 PM

I have a shell gas station here and a phillips 66, the shell gas is transported by freedom oil which i dont know if itll be actual shell gas that they are putting in at the shell gas station. I know phillips 66 is top tier too but is it trustworthy?
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TomB2
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2013 1:59:08 PM

Regardless or brand, there are just a few major refiners,the bigest refiner is Valero, the truck the gas is delivered in means nothing. The brand dictates the additive package added to the fuel. Both Shell and 66 are top tiers fuels.
keriazy4
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2013 11:08:39 AM

shell
Madridjoe
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2013 4:53:24 PM

there is no way to be sure, see how your vehicle runs on both, if you see a difference go with that
Michael306
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2013 4:31:17 PM

It all comes from the same place.
GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2013 4:16:02 PM

"I think gas is gas. All comes from local distributer."

Yes but Shell has a proprietary additive package.
Philips 66 has a proprietary additive package.
Chevron/Texaco has a proprietary additive package.


And they are all good.

While all local gasoline probably comes out of the same pipe each station has some say in what they get out of that pipe. Ethanol and the detergent package are added in the truck prior to departure from the fuel depot.
GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2013 4:12:59 PM

Top Tier is a marketing gimmick. Its primary purpose is to collect fees from stations for doing what they were doing anyway.

All one has to do is pay the Top Tier fee and dump the minimum specified Top Tier Approved additive package in your gasoline to qualify.
LEEEMT
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2013 3:38:54 PM

Fuel is fuel
46chief
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2013 10:07:10 AM

I think gas is gas. All comes from local distributer.
lwood655
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2013 8:47:38 AM

who cares gas is gas
dfp609
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2013 1:17:34 PM

Shell
Camry05
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2013 1:06:36 PM

shell
ranger2k
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2013 12:19:35 PM

neither
Ken2OD
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2013 11:52:35 AM

Who cares? It all comes from the same fill tube depot at Muskegon, MI.
MattGT500
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2013 11:39:12 AM

Neither of the above.
ggg452
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2013 11:37:25 AM

Neither...
TomB2
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2013 11:05:36 AM

Who cares? When it comes out of the pipeline there is no way of knowing what company refined it, Valero maybe, or what country the crude came from. The crude could have come from the Gulf region, Texas, North Dakota or Venezuela, but who cares? It all boils down to additives and both Shell and Phillips 66 are top tier fuels.
MertieMan
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 8:09:19 AM

I would say six of one and a half dozen of another on this one.
mawtaow
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 7:52:19 AM

neither
huey715
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2013 1:20:31 AM

Shell
Glasman
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2013 11:49:52 PM

wish we had a Phillips 66 sta. here.
budman1035
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2013 12:05:48 PM

Phillips 66!
stonejd
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2013 11:54:43 AM

Isn't gas ... gas? Each company just uses different additives.
Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2013 11:20:25 AM

On Apr 26, 2013 12:40:28 PM, chuckl95453 wrote:

>no Phillips 66 around here. Just Shell.

You've got 76 around there if you're like most places I've seen on the West Coast. The 76 brand is owned by Phillips 66. Used to be UNOCAL but they sold off their downstream business.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2013 10:06:34 AM

They are both the same.
04Ram1500
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2013 10:00:24 AM

Shell
wymi
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2013 2:50:48 PM

Phillips 66 gas makes all our cars crank longer to start. Never have that issue with BP or Road Ranger gas. All our cars start and run the best on Road Ranger gas.
chuckl95453
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2013 1:40:28 PM

no Phillips 66 around here. Just Shell.
Houckster
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2013 1:24:35 PM

Both Shell and Conoco/Phillips 66 are Top Tier gas brands and I would buy either one without reservation. If it's Top Tier, it's trustworthy.
f250jbh
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2013 11:07:08 AM

I get good mileage with SHELL. IF you go inside and buy the 25-50-100 dollar card and use it at the pump Shell gives you .05 off per gallon .....
geno700
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2013 10:12:10 AM

no difference
weddy11
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2013 9:46:51 AM

the cheapest. Both are supposed to be top tier gas.
2Tall
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2013 7:05:45 AM

cheapest
nickless
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2013 3:09:52 AM

The cheapest
dongo50
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2013 2:07:30 AM

neither.
redx590
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2013 12:53:34 AM

shell
valby
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2013 12:17:22 AM

Mobil
pawnkingfour
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 10:30:58 PM

Chevron.
jcpatriots
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 10:27:32 PM

Got no choice here between Phillips 66 and Shell, seeing as there's only two Phillips 66 stations that I know of IN THE STATE and they're 45+ miles away. So Shell for me in a landslide.
thirty8paces
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 9:48:26 PM

Cheapest is best.
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 9:42:07 PM

shell
GBMAX
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 3:11:17 PM

Shell
jrfan6767
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 2:01:21 PM

which ever is cheaper
jack4141
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 1:41:37 PM

Don't like shell.....gotta go with Phillips 66.
2Tall
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 12:32:49 PM

shell
brerrabbitTX
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2013 10:40:20 AM

There is a difference in fuels and the difference is based on the additives used. Shell, Chevron, Exxon, and Phillips 66 all invest heavily in research for additives. The real key to any issues around the quality of the gas sold is how stringent is the testing program of the companies to be sure you are getting fuel that has been properly additzed. The problem is Shell, Exxon, and Chevron have very aggresive programs to routinely check stations fuel to make sure it is theirs and properly blended. There are secret inert ingridients that are put in each brand and very few people know what that is. I work for a majoe oil company in the retail division and cannot tell you what our marker is. If we run out of additive at a terminal, we stop selling product and loading trucks till we resupply the additive. Other majors do as well. The one exception is P66. When they run out of their Top Tier additive they allow the generic, basic additive to be added to their fuel so you are buying the same quality you get at any other non branded station.

So while Phillips 66 is a top tier fuel when proprly additized you cannot always be sure that is what you are getting.
panj
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2013 2:31:23 PM

shell there are no Phil66 here
PaylessKY
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2013 12:15:17 PM

In my area it would have to be Shell. We do not have a Phillips 66. Shell is also a Top Tier station. regardless of who delivers the fuel to the Shell station the additives still have to make it Shell gasoline, as long as Shell's name is on the signs.
davisadm
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2013 12:01:26 PM

Has to be Shell, because Phillips is no longer here
Greenrancher
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2013 12:46:26 AM

Shell. No Phillips 66 stations around here.
giwan
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2013 11:45:41 PM

difference?
Saab93turbo
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2013 9:53:21 PM

Phillips 66 gas is fine. It is a Top Tier gas. To me that means that it is not junk and meets a slightly higher standard but non-Top Tier gas can be good, too.

Phillips 66 is one of the brands of Conoco Phillips, which also sells Conoco and 76.
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